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What are the key considerations for expats regarding the Thai tax system and related visas?

Jim ******
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Just read this article. Excellent advice. I also attended their webinar on changes to the Thai tax system which was very informative.
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The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the Thai tax system, particularly for expats. Participants share their experiences with informative content like articles and webinars about tax changes. Some recommend the LTR visa as a hassle-free option for residents, while others note the information may primarily apply to US citizens or specific groups. Additional resources for tax planning are shared, suggesting a growing interest in this area among expats.
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Michael *******
Michael *******
Tax advisors and consultants are crawling out of the woodwork on this , there’s gold in them there hills.
Brad *******
Brad *******
This Pattaya Expat Club vid presentation on tax planning by Thai tax advisor. .

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Phil ******
Phil ******
@Jim *****
there's lots of information out here so here's a couple more

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Henning **********
Henning **********
Seems like it's only for US citizens living in Thailand on a US income or maybe some few other exceptions, so it's not a good read for the bigger part of us.
Sabine *****************
Sabine *****************
Thanks for sharing Jim! A timely post for us as we are preparing to move to Thailand and trying to get our ducks in a row and figuring out how it all works. This is helpful! 😊
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Sabine ****************
one of the key points in the article is the ability to move assets to Thailand before you have 180 days. This allows the ability to move funds for living or housing purchase/lease into the country without attracting tax
Sabine *****************
Sabine *****************
@Todd ********
we already own a house in Thailand and I will continue to work in my existing online business (I will have a work permit). Some of my work is being taxed through an employer of record but the other money we are bringing in (husbands pension and my income from my business) is what we are currently researching. We will be non residents of Canada, my husbands pension will be taxed in Canada so with the tax treaty he shouldn’t be taxed in Thailand again. As I am operating as a sole prop I will not have to pay taxes in Canada but maybe in Thailand. That’s what I am researching right now 😮‍💨 and it’s giving me a nose bleed lol 🤯
Sabine *****************
Sabine *****************
@Todd ********
I've done a few gutsy moves in my life and all of them have paid off and made life better - and I am here for it 🙂 Arriving in Ao Nang on Nov 13 🥳🥳👊Looking forward to meeting you! Cheers 🥂
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Sabine ****************
we sure can. 🥂 My Aussie and Belgian neighbours here both did as you did and bought sight unseen during Covid. Both thrilled with it now. It was gutsy, but I bet it pays off. Let me know when you are in country, drinks on me
Sabine *****************
Sabine *****************
@Todd ********
love this for you!!! Just fantastic! We bought unseen lol as we were not in Thailand at the time - so that was crazy, but absolutely no regrets and it all worked out perfectly. Next time you come to Ao Nang, maybe we can have a drink together 🙂
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Sabine ****************
Mexico is a great option and doesn't lock you in at all to being there for any length of time. The vancouver consulate is super helpful if you email or call them. We were there for a month this year, but that was first time since covid. We also bought during covid on Koh Samui. It was really such an incredible time to be here. Got in the day before the country closed it's borders and the whole paradise without tourists was just absolutely fantastic. Gave us a great chance to look around some amazing properties and mkae some decisions. We go to Railay and Ao Nang at least once a year, always lovely and easy enough to access from here. Even direct flights from Samui to Krabi now. All in all, it's just brilliant. Best of luck!
Sabine *****************
Sabine *****************
@Todd ********
I agree with all your points lol... The island has been good to us tho and it was lovely to raise our children here - but it's time to move on. The island is too small and Canada is too big. I am originally from Germany and met my Canadian husband in 1996 in Railey Bay, Krabi and moved with him to Canada in 1998. The time has finally come and we can move back to Thailand and not just visit 5 weeks/year. We bought a 2 bed 2 bath pool villa in Ao Nang, Krabi during covid and it's literally a dream come true. Where abouts are you in Thailand? Now with all that being said lol - thank you about the info about Mexico!! I will definitely check it out - it peaked my interest now lol. My earnings are quite good at the moment, so I'd be interested to see what's required :)
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Sabine ****************
Van island is lovely, but not in my top 300 islands for beauty so far. I really love islands. It was a great place to grow up and i came back for retirement (briefly) but a year round there was enough to force a fast re-assessment. Weather, tax, cost of living, lack of medical access, declining care, frigid ocean etc chased me away quickly as soon as I retired. Mexico is quite easy for permanent residency, and no requirement to be there at all if you choose. Also, it's a once and done application. Never need to renew or pay for annual renewals. The income requirements have gone up dramatically and the peso has been strong vs CAD so it's become more challenging. But if you qualify with the income, it's very easy. Where did u buy here?
Sabine *****************
Sabine *****************
@Todd ********
small world - I am in Cowichan Bay! While Van Isle is absolutely beautiful - it’s suffocating me after 26 years being here.

The LTR won’t work for me unfortunately as I don’t qualify for the “work-from-Thailand-professional” category and the others won’t allow me to work legally (which is very important to me).

My husband can tag along on my non-b visa.

Do you have to be in Mexico every year to be considered a tax resident there? I’ve been looking a (teeny tiny!!) bit into the options of having tax residency in a low tax country but with all that’s going on right now as we prepare to move in November - I just don’t have the capacity and bandwidth 🤷🏽‍♀️
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Sabine ****************
it's a headache for sure. We have a house here too, but use Mexico as tax residence for tax purpose as only 15% withholding versus 25% here.. But agree that the way this seems to be playing out in Thailand is that they won't require any tax on pension if the tax treaty covers it. Hopefully more clarity to come in the coming months. And the LTR visa means no tax for retirees here also. Which makes an already fantastic visa, even more so. And i'm from Van Isle too... Victoria
Steve **********
Steve **********
@Sabine ****************
....live here. It doesn't, but worth it.
Sabine *****************
Sabine *****************
So worth it 🙂
Todd *********
Todd *********
Or just get an LTR visa and don’t worry about it.
Randy ******
Randy ******
So you prove to the Thai government that you were earning $80,000 a year for the last two years minimum. You get the 10 yr LTR visa…. Then what? I want to RETIRE! No more income for me but living off my savings. Is that ok for LTR?
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Randy *****
the income for LTR retiree must be be passive. Not from work. It can be from pension, investments, interest, bonds, rental income, anything but work
Terary **********
Terary **********
@Todd ********
80,000 USD is all that is required? I thought that visa required proof of "established company". Can I use my tax returns as "proof"?
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Terary *********
yes - $80k is all. And yes -most people seem to be using their tax returns. No need at all for any company
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Terary *********
happy birthday! Timing is everything
Terary **********
Terary **********
@Todd ********
I turned 50 3 days ago - life is good..
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Terary *********
best of luck. Look under the ‘wealthy pensioner’ category.
Terary **********
Terary **********
@Todd ********
THAT'S HUGE - Thank You!
Jim ******
Jim ******
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@Todd ********
OK for high net worth individuals with income of USD 80,000 per annum.
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Jim *****
$80k income may or may not be related to HNW at all. You need income. That’s it. And voila, no more tax. One of the many reasons why it’s the best visa in Asia!

With that said, it’s a good article. And well worth reading for anyone that doesn’t qualify for LTR.

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