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What are the implications of recent taxation discussions for expats in Thailand?
Taxation in ThailandThai visa regulationsExpats and taxationVisa extension requirementsNon-B visaImmigration policiesTaxation for retirees
TLDR : Answer Summary
A recent article from the Bangkok Post discusses new taxation rules affecting expats in Thailand. Community comments suggest skepticism about the article's accuracy, with some labeling it as 'fake news' and expressing concern about potential future requirements for tax documents during visa extensions. Discussions also include the historical context of tax document requests by immigration and the implications of globalization on tracking and taxation.
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Stephen *********
Globalization programs. Tracked, chipped vaccinated and taxed.
Richard ********
Didn't ask for mine and I have just extended at Immigration
Saimo *******
In the future, when applying for a visa extension, the immigration office will ask for Thailand tax papers, I read. Forgot where
John *******
@Saimo ******
They have been asking to see them for years if u were on a non b extensionSaimo *******
@John ******
Retirement will probably now be added.John *******
@Saimo ******
No problem. I have my letters from SS.Reply to
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Peter *********
More scare mongering from tax representing agents
Have *******
How are they going to tax your money not held in Thailand if you don't tell them about it 🤔
Saimo *******
@Have ******
In the future, when applying for a visa extension, the immigration office will ask for Thailand tax papers, I read. Forgot whereJohn ********
ORIGINAL POSTERAnd still the billionaires and multi National companies will get away with paying little or no tax. As usual the ordinary guy/girls will be taxed to the hilt.
Darren *******
@John *******
yet I'm sure they pay considerably more tax than everyone on here pays combinedReply to
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John ********
ORIGINAL POSTERIt's disgusting that any country would have a DTA with any country that is rampant with corruption.
Greg ***********
@Have ******
you got me wondering 🤣😂🤣Craig ********
@Have ******
they have CRS which is tax information sharing between nations.Greg ***********
@Craig *******
they can exchange data via the CRS, however if your income in your home country has been taxed already, Thailand cannot tax it againCraig ********
@Greg **********
this is completely incorrect. Most countries have a double tax treaty and each one is unique. But generally speaking the way it works is that you owe taxes in BOTH countries, but your foreign tax payment can be used as a tax credit to Thailand.So for example if you sell some stock in the US and pay 10% capital gains taxes, the Thai tax on that might be 30% (the brackets are much lower) at which point you would owe the difference, 20%, to Thailand.
Greg ***********
The New World man. Fully transparent down to the colour of the socks he wears 😄
Greg ***********
@Craig *******
I however doubt if Thailand can activate a tax revenue task force, for the one and only purpose to check the situation of every foreigner, including the knowledge for how many percent he was taxed in his home country. Thai Tax Revenue would need to get wise on taxation rules of HOW MANY countries? Don't you realize, that the massive bureaucratic effort might not be worth the outcome?Craig ********
@Greg **********
Many countries already tax "global income" and Thailand is the next in line to do this. They will get it done, if that's what they want to do. It's pretty straightforward. Might take a few years to get the bugs worked out but you can bet this is the direction the Thai government is going. They will tax your global income, they will automate the auditing of it, and they will tie it to your immigration status.Greg ***********
@Craig *******
AB SO FUC.. LUTELY RIGHT! . . . . . that's why this year I shall stay in Thailand under 180 days. I am just curious on how things will developCraig ********
@Greg **********
I'm just going wait for next year to see what happens. Perhaps I will owe some tax next year. If that's the case then next year I probably move with my Thai wife to Malaysia.Greg ***********
@Craig *******
as married to a Thai wife, you can apply for several tax allowances. You might come off cheapCraig ********
@Greg **********
The tax deduction for a Thai wife is like 60,000 THB a year (if she doesn't work). And most of my income comes from capital gains, taxed on 0% in the US but taxed 20-30% in Thailand. So being married to a Thai national does basically nothing to help me.Singapore or Malaysia is probably where we'll end up once this system gets fully implemented over the next few years
Greg ***********
@Craig *******
you are right, the fact being married to a Thai wife just adds the tax allowance up for 60.000.- THBCraig ********
@Greg **********
That's what CRS is for, can be fully automated and is already done in many countries this way.Greg ***********
@Craig *******
I agree, this is correct.Reply to
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Jon **********
Fake news
Erik *******
@Jon *********
I just watched on thai news an interview of the Revenue Department director . She said exactly what’s in the article mentioned. What is your source to call fake news ?Peter **********
@Erik ******
Chang, Leo or maybe Singha. 🤣Reply to
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John ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Jon *********
Hope so.Reply to
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