What are the different types of retirement visas available for expats in Thailand?

May 31, 2018
6 years ago
Tod *********
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The Three Main Types of 'Retirement Visas';

People use the term "retirement visa" for a few totally different things.

They can be broken down roughly 3 ways;

Year-Long, Multi-Entry Non-Immigrant Type O Visa

1 ) a year-long, multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type O visa you get from a thai consulate based on being over 50. This visa is NOT that common any more for people based on being over 50 (retirement) and more and more consulates are stopping issuing them. This visa gets you stamped in for 90 days and then when that runs down you border-bounce (go to the border, stamp out of thailand, stamp in and out of another country and then right back into thailand) to get another 90 day stamp. You do this for the whole year the visa is valid for. You CAN get almost 15 months of stay out of this visa (in 90 day increments) though. On this visa you NEVER do a 90 day report because you can't stay in the country longer than 90 days at a time.

Year-Long, Multi-Entry Non-Immigrant Type O-A (Long Stay) Visa

2 ) a year-long, multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type O-A visa <-( note the A after the O) you get from a thai consulate in your country (or in a country you hold legal residence in) based on being over 50, by meeting the financial requirements, submitting a police background check, a medical certificate AND by showing proof of health insurance (40 out patient/400 in patient minimum coverage.

This visa has unlimited re-entries for the validity of the visa and gets you stamped in for a complete calendar year every time you enter the country.You can get almost TWO years of stay out of this visa by exiting/re-entering the country just prior to the visa itself expiring and getting stamped in for another year. On this visa you DO a 90 day report IF you're in the country for 90 days.

90 Day Single Entry Non-Immigrant Type O Visa & a Yearly Extension of Stay

3 ) a 90 day single entry Non-Immigrant Type O visa (gotten either inside thailand OR from a thai consulate). This visa gets you stamped into the country for 90 days then you go to the local immigration office and apply for a yearly extension of stay (by meeting the financial requirements). After you get the extension of stay IF you need to you can also get a re-entry permit as well, which lets you exit/re-enter the country and keep your extension stamp 'alive' so when you return you're stamped in for the same expiration date. Every year extensions of stays expire, they cannot be renewed, you apply for a brand new one from the immigration office year after year. On a yearly extension you do 90 day reporting if you are in the country for 90 days.

ATTN: 4 consulates have stopped issuing the affidavit of income from abroad notary letters to use the monthly income method (UK, USA, Denmark & Australia) <- citizens from those countries must now transfer from overseas to a thai bank account in your name only at least 65K baht a month EVERY month for the 12 months prior to your application for extension.

--Also there is a change to the police order clause 2.22 extensions based on retirement that state using banked money the 800K baht must be 'seasoned' in a thai bank account in your name only for 2 months prior to your application AND it must remain in the account for 3 months AFTER you get your extension. Then you can withdraw up to 400K baht but at not time during the year can the balance go below 400K baht.

4 ) there is also a 10 year Non-Immigrant Type O-X visa BUT anyone who jumps thru the hoops to get one certainly knows how that visa works so it's not worth mentioning.

Those are the things people routinely call a retirement visa.

Hope it helps (y)
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TLDR : Answer Summary
This post outlines the three primary types of retirement visas available to expats in Thailand: the Year-Long, Multi-Entry Non-Immigrant Type O Visa, the Year-Long, Multi-Entry Non-Immigrant Type O-A (Long Stay) Visa, and the 90 Day Single Entry Non-Immigrant Type O Visa with a Yearly Extension of Stay. Each visa type has its own requirements, such as age, financial stability, and the processes involved for extending stays and re-entry permits. The post also mentions recent changes in regulations regarding income affidavits and financial requirements for certain nationalities.
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Howard *******
Great summary, really useful info 👍🙏
Robert *******
@Anto****
, you meet the requirements and thats it. What friends did in other countries is for sure not in the requirements.
Anthony *************
I understand but I wanted to check if Thailand has the requirement for applicants ts to notify them of any exclusions from other countries (Bot just your home country) Most f not all other countries I have visited have this requirement. Not sure f Thailand has,
Anthony *************
Do you need to report if you have been expelled or removed from anther country. I know a guy who has anger issues and he was expelled for family violence. Bashed his Ex. She took out an AVO and he was convicted for breaching it. Don't think he reported it. Most countries require this disclosure when applying for a visa. Should show on a Plaice check but the country was not his permanent place of residence.
Jay ***********
@Tod ********
sent you a PM asking a question I haven’t seen here yet Thanks for all you do to help others
Michael ********
@Tod ********
many thanks, it will be helpful to add to the list of requirements when I apply..
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Michael *******
nope, It's clearly stated on the thai consulate in London's webpage about the O-A visa that you need a police background check ONLY from this place;

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Michael ********
@Tod ********
just out of interest regarding police check in your own country,, I assume the page in your passport (UK )with No Official Observations across the top does not meet the requirements and you need a proper police check certification?? TIA ..
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
There is no police report needed IF you apply for a Non-O visa inside the country. If you're getting a Non-O-A visa from your country you need a background check.
Bernd ***********
@Tod ********
going in and out with a Non O-A multiple entry visa are there any proof to show our questions on re-entering , e.g. 20k or TKT ?
Bernd ***********
@Tod ********
thank you. 😉
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
nope, but as a rule people aren't questioned entering on a yearly extension of stay based on marriage or retirement either.
Campbell **********
Great post.
Patricia **********
Thanks again Tod
Garry ********
Thanks To

I meet these requirements however I am married to a Thai national would.I be better off applying for a marriage visa

Kind regards
@Garry *******
David ************
David Broadfoot good information thanks
David ************
David Broadfoot correct. But I have been told you can't get the WP on a retirement visa
David ************
David Broadfoot I have been told absolutely not.
Steve **********
@David ***********
Absolutely. Though you still need the "golden ticket" work permit in order to work legally.
David ************
@Steve *********
you can work on the marriage extension.
Albert *******
One advantage of the yearly extension based on marriage is the ability to obtain a work permit. If you ever intend working legally then the additional paperwork would be worth it.
Tod *********
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@Ga***
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@St***
brings up a valid point. There is a PILE of paperwork to get a yearly extension of stay base on marriage to a thai. Applications for that type of yearly extension goes under consideration for 30 days as well, and in some immigration areas the officers come out and do an in home visit too
Robert *******
It is about 10 copy's more and a few photographs. Other thing is based on being over 50 gets directly stamped in your passport, based on marriage will first get you a 30 day under consideration stamp, possible house visit and than the remaining 11 months.
Steve **********
An extension of stay based on marriage involves a lot more paperwork and documents than one based on age over 50. What are the benefits of the marriage extension?
Mary ********
@Indigo ****
3rd option for you would be my recommendation. Come in on a tourist visa, convert to the 90 day then get the one year. You can buy multiple reentry at that point in time. Gives you time to decide if this is for you and save $ for the Visas for all 3 of you.
Miek ********
👏👏👏
Kenny *******
Thanks for your hard work and great information.
Nick *******
Tod, I’m now nearing the end of my 2nd extension of stay ( number 3) . So if I make a trip back to UK closer to the time I would be able to apply for a ( number 2) Visa which would be valid for 2 years ???
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
You certainly could apply for year-long, multi-entry Non-O-A visa,

Here are the requirements from the thai consulate in London

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Daniel *********
Tod Daniels knows his stuff.
Bernd ***********
For me clearly MENI O-A from my home country. Thanks to Tod Daniels I now have a plan/Idea for my future in TH . (y)
Peter *********
Tod, This has to be, by far, the most clear explanation yet of the subject. Thank you again for the contributions you make and for your patience in dealing with many of the more dumb questions that are too frequently posted.
Cheryl **********
A friend recently sent me a message saying she read an article, and they've increased the financial requirements for retirement visa.

What was described in the article was the Elite visa, but they referred to it as Retirement.

Lots of inaccurate info out there. ☹️
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Also the elite visa doesn't have any financial requirements as far as banked money etc.

You pick the one you want and you buy it.

They start at 500K baht for the 5 year one and go up to 2 million baht for the 20 year one.
Cheryl **********
@Tod ********
oh, ok, thanks for the clarification.
Tod *********
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@Cheryl *********
yep that's the O-X visa it's good for TWO terms of 5 years each.
Cheryl **********
@Tod ********
the article said it was a five year visa.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
I believe the article your friend read was that new ten year Non-Immigrant Type O-X <- (note the X after the O) visa that came out a while back.

It requires 3 million baht in the bank, health insurance from a thai provider, etc.

The Thai Elite Visa isn't a retirement visa at all. You don't have to be 50 to buy one, anyone can buy it
Karen ********
Thanks Tod for putting in simple terms.
Bill ********
Thanks Tod!! 🙏🙏
Rudi ********
Type OA Visa

When arriving at airport in Thailand is there a special lane for this visa instead of waiting with everyone else being that you have a visa already ?
ถนอมศรี **********************
Almost. To the right of the automated gate for Thai citizen, you have some desks for retired people. At least it was last summer.
Michael ********
There is if you buy a business class ticket or fast track ;)
Rudi ********
Would be nice especially paid for multiple entries already ☺
Al *******
Nope.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
nope, it's just in like with the rest of the herd :O
John *****
Very good breakdown Tod ... I am at the first 90 days of reporting on the O-A visa. I will definitely leave the country just prior to my visa expiration for another year ... my understanding is that during the extended second year I should protect myself with purchase of multiple entry reentry permit if I am planning to leave Thailand multiple times during the extended year. If I don't get the reentry permit in advance of the travel, then the extension terminates? ... not sure. Finally, what is your recommendation for future years ... better to initiate a new O-A visa out of country or just go with the third option that you mentioned. Thanks for your help ... just planning ahead.
John *****
@Mary *******
Ok ... thanks Mary. I will keep that in mind. Good to have different options.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Ma**
yep :) once you get the process down for the yearly extension of stay it's not that hard to do year after year.
Mary ********
@John ****
we are currently on year 5 of the third type of Visa. No running back and forth out of the country. We are American and the process is fairly painless.
John *****
@Tod ********
Thanks Tod ... understand. I am just going to chill and enjoy the two years.
John *****
Tod ... I was just thinking that I am thinking and planning way too far into the future. I am just going to enjoy my next two years for now. Who knows, I may just decide to take a visit to the US and start the process all over again ... it wasn't that painful in my mind. Thanks again for the helpful experitise.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jo**
you would either go back to your country and get another Non-O-A visa OR you would apply for a yearly extension of stay at the immigration office by meeting the financial requirements.
John *****
@Tod ********
Very good Sir! How about my long term plan for the 3rd year and beyond ... assuming my happily beating heart can survive that long in Thailand😊
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
correct (y) for the second year (after the visa itself expires) you need a re-entry permit to keep your stamp 'alive'
Jennifer *********
Please see the PM I sent you.
Richard *******
Thank you Tod 👍
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