What are the requirements and process for obtaining a retirement visa in Thailand while on a 60-day tourist visa?

May 26, 2017
8 years ago
Fraser **********
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At present I go to Thailand twice a year for three months. Get 60 day visa for £15 and extend by 30days at immigration . Am now thinking of buying condo and staying 10 months a year. I take it best option is retirement visa and require 80000 baht in bank account for 3 months ?? Can I apply for retirement when in Thailand on 60 day visa ?? Any advice would be appreciated.
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The best option for extending your stay in Thailand if you want to remain for 10 months a year is to apply for a retirement visa, which is technically referred to as a Non-O visa based on retirement. You can apply for this visa while you are already in Thailand on a 60-day tourist visa, provided you meet the requirements: being over 50 years of age and having 800,000 baht in your bank account, which must be untouched for three months prior to the application. It's recommended to change your visa to a 90-day Non-O visa first before applying for the yearly extension. The process includes submitting the necessary documentation at an immigration office, and the application will take about 14 days for processing.
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Tod *********
Vincent, Okay, lets sort this out. First there is NO such thing as a retirement visa! Even though it is called that by every Tom Dick & Somchai (foreigner and immigration officer alike) there is NO such thing, period.  

You can go from a 30 day visa exempt stamp to a 90 day Non-O visa based on being over 50 inside the country at the immigration office by supplying the documentation and using form TM.87 <- application for a visa.

OR

you can go from a 60 day tourist visa entry to a 90 day Non-O based on being over 50 inside the country at the immigration office with the documentation and by using form TM.86 <- change of visa

You turn in your documentation, your proof of financials (there is NO seasoning requirement for using banked money when doing this) and the application will go "under-consideration" for 14 days when you go back and get the 90 day Non-O stamped in your passport along with a 90 day admitted until stamp.

THEN you wait until you have 45 days or less left on that stamp (and until your money is seasoned the requisite 60 days required and you apply for a yearly extension of stay based on being over 50.

The ONLY place the word retirement appears is in the english stamp they put on the yearly extension.
Tod *********
Vincent, unfortunately it seems that's not possible.

I've never seen a trailing spouse get a Non-O issued inside the country. That's not saying it can't be done, just that I've never seen it pulled off. Normally the immigration office will tell your wife to go to a thai consulate in a neighboring country and get a 90 day single entry Non-O, based on the fact you hold a year long extension based on being over 50 (retirement) and that she's married to you.
Vincent *************
Many thx for the onfo. So if i have a retirement stamp and i get married my wife would come in with a 30 day tourist visa . She could convert to a 90 day non 'O' which then later she could convert to retirement ?
Vincent *************
To Get a retirement visa You have to have a Non 'O' visa first I thought! so you cannot convert a tourist visa into a Retirement visa because you need 2 moths remaining on you current visa ... . that is what I thought !
Tod *********
FWIW: the thai immigration office in Jomtien cannot issued 90 day Non-O visas anymore. So if you're comin' in on a 30 day visa exempt entry or a 60 day tourist visa and wanna get a 90 day Non-O issued in country you do it in Bangkok.
Mike *******
Must be over 50 years of age.a o.a visa is a better visa obtained from your home country.gives u 2 years
Fred *******
Marry a thai lady lol
Alex *********
Yes , if you have 800 000 baht.
David ************
Yep, even after I got married and went to change from retirement to marriage the immigration officer said don't bother, your much better off with the retirement one.
Amornrat **********
the extensions based on retirement are must more straight forward.....
Lance *******
Multiple entry visa 6 months + 2 then extend 30 days will give you 9 months
Fraser **********
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@Stephen *******
Thanks I think from feedback I'll get visa there !!
Stephen *******
O-A Visa granted in your home country. Slightly more difficult to get as you need a clean police report and a medical saying you don't have a few weird diseases. See your home country Thai embassy website for details.
Fraser **********
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Fraser **********
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James *******
Yeah or that
Lance *******
Or get an elite visa 500k
James *******
Every 60 days leave thailand
Fraser **********
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@James ******
ok thanks
James *******
Its alot easier
@Fra***
just have to border bounce 4 times to give you 240 days then get a 30 day extension
Fraser **********
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@James ******
ok thanks
James *******
Thats what im doing this time round
Fraser **********
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Is there any other routes to follow ??
Jacco ***********
I must be missing something, wasn't it 800,000 baht ?
Jacco ***********
@Fraser *********
5555, no problem :)
Fraser **********
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Yea sorry !!!
Richard *******
Yes, you can. But if you go the 800,000 in the bank route It has to be in the bank untouched for three months. Or if you have a retirement income of 65,000 per month, that is acceptable. You would go to Immigration and apply to change your visa type to O, and at the same time extend it for one year based on retirement. You do not mention where you would be doing this BKK or another province, that is important as each area seems to have its own little 'quirks and foibles'.
Richard *******
@Amornrat *********
What is written on Immigration websites often is not what Immigration officers will ask of you, you should know this.
Amornrat **********
Richard Clark from Immigration rules "On the filing date, the applicant must have funds deposited in a bank in Thailand of no less than Baht 800,000 for the past three months. For the first year only, the applicant must have proof of a deposit account in which said amount of funds has been maintained for no less than 60 days prior to the filing date". You can use said account, but funds can not drop below THB800,000 in that said period.
Fraser **********
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Richard *******
Fairly straight forward then, go to immigration with all your documentation and apply to change your visa to a Type O, then apply for the 1 year extension when that is granted.
Fraser **********
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Thanks I will be staying in Pattaya/Jomtiem !!!
Richard *******
@Peter ***********
Yep, I just remembered that myself, thanks Peter, I never went that way, as I had the monthly pension. However there was a time about 10-15 years ago when some immigration offices demanded three months.
Peter ************
First time only 2 months.
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