The Thai Visa system is super complicated. What are some good companies that can help for a reasonable price?
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Navigating the Thai visa system can be challenging for newcomers, and there are various opinions on whether to use visa companies or manage the process independently. Users recommend providing specific personal situations for tailored advice, with many noting that common visa types such as retirement and tourist visas have specific requirements. Suggestions include waiting until age 50 to apply for retirement visas or utilizing temporary tourist visas with extensions. Some users advocate for agencies known for reliable service, while others suggest handling the application process personally to avoid potentially costly mistakes or complications down the line.
It is true I agree, I am very experienced but it almost seems to have asked for a residence permit. In Italy for a multi entry tourist visa they asked me for 4 plane tickets! Even the exit flight after 4 months!
Ronald *********
Using an agent is not expensive it creates work and makes life a lot easier for immigration officers who must get sick of people turning up with incomplete documents
, you say that you're a Digital Nomad. So, I guess that you're a reasonably smart guy. I see you have only just joined this Group. I've been a member less than a year myself and if everything goes well for me, I will move to Thailand in 2025...on a Retirement Visa or Non-O Visa based on Marriage, which, I'm not sure about just yet.
My suggestion for you, is over the coming months, so as I have done:
1)view as many Posts in the group as you can that look like they might contain information that could benefit you.
2) learn especially from the Admin and Moderators of the group; they have vast experience that they have gained over a long period of time. I have the highest respect for those guys. Over the months, you will learn who of the other members are sources of good information also.
3) ask questions in the group about anything you're not sure about. Someone will guide you in the right direction.
4) work out what part of Thailand that you want to live. Related to that, understand that Thailand has it's written Laws, BUT, the Immigration Office of each Province has it's own 'laws' or interpretations of the Laws, so knowing the specific requirements of the Province that you'll want to live in vary slightly to other Provinces. Not any major differences, just what one might require, another won't.
5) Most group members will probably tell you that it's not too hard to do anything yourself in regards to obtaining Visas and Visa Extensions and it will be a lot less costly. There's also less likelihood also, that you could run into any future troubles caused by using Visa Agents that are dodgy and use bribes to get Immigration Officials 'get things done easily'. There are good Agents, but you just need to make sure they do things the right way.
Those are some things I've learnt during 2023.
Lastly,
5) you will find a small number in the group, as there are anywhere on Facebook, those who will make smart *ss comments, belittle, or be rude to you in some way. It seems to me that these ones either lack self esteem or are bored with their lot in life and want to try and make themselves feel better at other expense. Ignore these ones, or if they pop up too often and have nothing useful to say, just block them and they won't see anything you post & you'll not see their comments. The latter is what I've done with a few in the group recently.
Hey Matt, no need for school and Ed visa when with advice from members here you can easily come visa Exempt and combine with extensions and border bounces probably make it to your 50th bd allowing you to do as others have already advised and apply for one of the retirement visas. I suggest dedicating some time to go to the home page here and read as many posts from the past written by folks who were in a similar situation that you and your Pops find yourselves in, and ask here if anything is confusing. I got my non-O visa that way. You'll also soon get familiar with the names of those associated with rock solid advice, the couple of quacks, and those that may not know everything, but are honest good folk trying to help. If you don't have the time to do the work, or it's still a bit too confusing, and you're good with the fees, there is NO shame in using a well recommended agency, such as the owners of this page. Best wishes and Cheers!
thank you. After reading through a lot of posts, I got even more confused. I thought I'd just ask. I appreciate your help, along with most everyone else.
Seeing how your 49 you could first come on a 30 Visa exempt and extend that for another 30. You could then check out some Thai Language Schools and apply for a one year Education Visa to study Thai. If you plan on staying long term it’s nice to know some Thai. Once you turn 50 you could then apply for Retirement Visa.
The reason it's super complicated and the reason there are so many hoops to jump through is because they are in league with these agencies. Why else would they pay huge sums to get these jobs in immigration! The whole system is built around corruption. TIT
send a message or via the 'Line App,' or their website.
No matter where your location is in Thailand.
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Molly ******************
Don’t do it. Do your visa stuff yourself. If you’re really gonna live here, most visas are like 1900 baht per year vs 100,000 from these mostly lawyer-crooks… and your local immigration likely won’t deal with you unless you get a new passport to clear yourself of the semi-legit stamps via the agency … & that new passport must be issued in your home country. Not an embassy. Your shady visa past from using an agency will follow you otherwise. And then you start visa process in Thailand from scratch. The legit way. I know because I’ve been there 😭 If you’re gonna live here, you need to know how the systems work and how to operate within them. Suck it up and learn how yourself 😊 empowering in the long run and saves you time and money, actually. Wish I had known. Learned the hard way haha 😆
1900 baht for one year?? It's like 59$!! Is this like for certain countries??? Am living in Vietnam right now, and thinking about moving to Thailand, what would you recommend for me to do as a steps?? 🙏🙏🙏
I married my Thai partner 😁😉😍 But there are other visas likewise very cheap, just a lot of requirements & paperwork to get. Yes it is 1900 baht per year.
I doubt getting a new passport will solve problems with Visa Stamps. Everything goes on computers & biometrics used these days will store anything from your past travels etc into Thailand.
that's not what I've read, and believe that I've read from a number of people that seem very reliable with their information, including Admin and Moderators in this and another Thailand related Facebook group. Think about it; with the technology available now, biometrics are built into passports and when you enter countries, including Thailand that are up to date with these technologies, their computers have all your details that they need to check to decide whether to allow you into the country or not. Just because you get a new passport, it does not mean that your past travel history is wiped out. The days of get a new passport and throw the old one out, along with it's history, is history. Why do you think that computers are used to make passports and at entry points when entering countries these days? 'Big Brother' wants to be able know everything about you, past and present.
If I'm wrong, I'd be happy to be set straight by people such as
a I said, I am happy to be put straight on this. Immigration where, told you that? An Airport? A local Immigration Office? So many in the group say from personal experience, that most local Immigration Offices and Officers have their own 'set of rules', 'interpretations of rules' or opinions and requirements.
Got my 60 day tourist Evisa a few month back. was simple to do. wny would you pay somebody to do something you can do ?
Andrew *******
I agree. As a newbie, it is very complicated. So I sympathise...There are some very helpful comments, but even here they sometimes seem to contradict each other. I'm going to discuss my options at Maneerat in Pattaya, which seems to be a highly respected agency amongst expats.
I suspect it’s way easier for you to come to Thailand than a Thai to try to stay in your country.
It’s not rocket science. There are procedures and requirements depending on what visa type you’re after, but once you got that figured out there’s documentation on exactly what’s needed.
it really isn’t that simple. I had to make 4 trips to the consulate in Vietnam exactly because the needed documentation and requirements were either not mentioned on their website or were confusing.
I am brand new to this and to world travel in general, so it is rocket science to me. It is my first question ... so Thanks for making me feel welcome.
just explain your personal situation and what you are trying to accomplish, and you might find that the answer is much simpler than you think
For example, say "I am a 70 year old retiree from the UK looking to move to Thailand permanently and I do not have a Thai wife" or "I am a 20 year old college student from Canada looking to stay in Thailand for 6 months" or "I am a 30 year old digital nomad from India looking to move to Thailand for a year while blogging" or "I am a 40 year old from Australia looking to spend 2 months going around different countries in Asia with multiple short repeated times in Thailand" etc. All of the above are daily scenarios that the members of this group deal with. You'll probably find your situation isn't unique and is common for members to advise you on. As someone else posted, it might be the difference between paying 1900 baht to do it yourself vs tens of thousands of baht or more to have an agent do the exact same thing for you that might take you 15 minutes to do yourself.
thank you for such a helpful and detailed response. It will be for me (49 yrs old) and my dad (76 yrs old). We are from the US, and are currently in Mexico.
We are both looking to move to Thailand and stay as long as we can. I know he can apply for a retirement Visa. I am just beginning my work as a digital nomad, although I do not have a formal company set up yet.
If you are 49, just wait a year and move to Thailand as a 50 year old then both you and your Dad can apply for retirement visas within Thailand. You will each need to have 800K baht which you can deposit in separate Thai bank accounts to show that you each have sufficient funds to meet the financial requirements for this visa. Alternatively come earlier on a single entry tourist visa that will give you 60 days and can be extended by another month to give you 90 days in total. You can then leave Thailand through a land border and get a 30 day visa exempt entry when you return back in to Thailand, which you can also extend by 30 days giving you 60 days (30 + 30). You can do two land border bounces in a calendar year meaning you could get another visa exempt entry and another extension 60 days (30 +30) giving you 210 days in total in Thailand. Hopefully by then you will have turned 50 and become eligible for the retirement visa.
Dianne gave a very thorough answer. Your best bet is to wait till you are 50 to do the exact same visa as your dad. During however many months you have until then, it is a simple matter of using existing options for American tourists (your residency in Mexico has no bearing as Thailand only cares about your passport country). USA passport holders can enter via visa exempt entry where you just show up without any visa and show your passport (30 days, extendable for 30 more days each time you enter), or with either a single entry or multiple entry tourist visa that you can very easily apply for from a Thai consulate like any tourist could. Single entry tourist visas allow one-time entry for 60 days, extendable one-time for 30 more days, giving you 90 days. You then go to a neighbouring country like Malaysia and come back in either via visa exempt (30+30 days) or on another tourist visa (60+30 days). Or, get a multiple-entry tourist visa, which gives you unlimited stays of 60 days each time, within the 6 month validity period of the visa, so you would need to leave the country once every 60 days, for example, to take a day trip to Singapore or Laos or anywhere you choose. By the time you do some combination of those options, you've made it to age 50 and can apply for what is commonly called a retirement visa. Keep in mind that entering by visa exempt entry (without having pre-applied for a single entry or multiple entry tourist visa) is limited to 2 land entries per year, and is technically unlimited for air entries, but Immigration may question too many repeated visa exempt entries and ask you to apply for an actual tourist visa. Doing it a couple of times is not going to be any issue.
multiple entry tourist visas can only be applied for in the country of the person's passport or permanent residence. If the OP and his father are not official permanent residents of Mexico, then it would require applying at a Thai Embassy or Consulate in the US. Requirements for a multiple entry tourist visa will be on the website or whichever Thai Embassy or consulate they choose