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Is there a long-term reward for continuously renewing a retirement visa in Thailand?

Sam *****
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Serious question here. With the retirement visa’s that you get and keep extending, then reapplying. Is there any long term prize/reward?

Say after 5 years, do you get one year free, or do they go well done,now you are Thai, don’t worry about the visa’s anymore. You can just stay as long as you want now. Looking long term here.

Thank everyone.
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The consensus among the community is that there are no long-term rewards for continuously renewing a retirement visa in Thailand. While immigrants can extend their visa indefinitely as long as they meet the requirements, there is no automatic progression to permanent residency or any financial bonuses after a specified duration. For permanent residency, individuals generally need to work and pay taxes in Thailand for several years, with paths also available through marriage. Some users humorously noted that staying longer may even lead to stricter scrutiny from immigration authorities.
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David *****
David *****
Thai retirement Visa
Somsak ************
Somsak ************
Yes, You can apply permanent residence.
Dave **********
Dave **********
I think they give Green Stamps, you're probably not old enough to even know what those are :-)
Colin ********
Colin ********
@Dave *********
are they even still a thing? I collected them for years, but I was so busy collecting them I forgot to cash them in 😄😄
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Dave *********
judging from your profile pic next to your comment I am a lot older than you. Other than a green stamp referring to cash though, still have no idea what you mean.
Ken ******
Ken ******
you are rewarded by thai hospitality
Somsak ************
Somsak ************
@Ken *****
if you donate blood, yes, hospital free.
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Ken *****
this is true.
Phillip ********
Phillip ********
🤣😂🤣
David **********
David **********
Thailand should just give you a visa if you purchase property in the country. I'm not going to splash-out for a condo but if they sweeten the deal by giving me a visa I'd do it. As some may know, it's quite a hassle to stay legal here, especially if one is not the youngest anymore.
Jim ********
Jim ********
@David *********
It's actually easier for older people to stay than younger ones. Over 50 it's a doddle
David **********
David **********
@Jim *******
But they mandate things like health insurance for older folks - that can cost over $1,500 a year - steep for something most will never ever use.
Jim ********
Jim ********
@David *********
Instead of the 800k in the bank you can use the 65k per month transfer method. Money is yours to use as soon as you get it. The Married to a Thai visa is different, it's not a retirement visa and requires only 40k per month transfer (although how anyone can live on that beats me but many seem to do it)
David **********
David **********
@Jim *******
Will check. Have also heard from one source that 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account is also not compulsory. It came from the mouth of someone who is married to a Thai woman - they probably gave him the retirement visa because of that.
Jim ********
Jim ********
@David *********
Health insurance is not compulsory for the "over 50" visa in Thailand, although it's strongly advised
Sel *****
Sel *****
Even for the $17k 5 years Elite Visa you only get a USB stick as a thank you 😂
Bryn ********
Bryn ********
Don’t kid yourself. Yer here strictly on probation. Checking in with the parole officer every three months is mandatory.
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Bryn *******
yeah yeah I am hearing ya. Just thought I would ask how things proceed. Get some good tips here sometimes. Cheers🍻
Bryn ********
Bryn ********
@Sam ****
Wishin’ ya luck. I’ve just got to the point I’ll only stay during the winter tourist season. Can’t take the heat and humidity. I’d head south but I’m just not a beach guy.
Paul *********
Paul *********
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Paul ********
did you just find new emoji’s? Keep them coming.😁
Graeme **********
Graeme **********
What are you on
Graeme **********
Graeme **********
Must be the ‘High’ ya gettin from life eh buddy
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Graeme *********
you know it.
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Graeme *********
high on life buddy. Don’t take everything so literal and then to heart. Didn’t mean any harm.
Alessandro **********
Alessandro **********
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Alessandro *********
yeah true that. Was just being a little felicitous with the prize / reward comment Thought I might find the golden ticket advice here on how things proceed 10 / 20 years down the track. I am still feeling quite optimistic though. 😁
Kat ******
Kat ******
Colin ********
Colin ********
It's not a lottery, there is no prize or gamification 😆😆
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Colin *******
please refer to Charles comment above.😜
Kevin *********
Kevin *********
Buy One.

Get One Free.

Sale Now On.
Danger ******
Danger ******
Hopefully, that's not a serious question. Duh.
Sam *****
Sam *****
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@Danger *****
nup totally, wasn’t sure if this is what people did til they Karked it or what. 30 plus years of the same deal seems a bit retarded is all
Danger ******
Danger ******
I've been here 6 years and look forward to spending 1900 baht a year in future to remain in this wonderful country.
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Danger *****
nice tip cheers 🍻
Danger ******
Danger ******
@Sam ****
Well. Thailand has a permanent resident program. 5 seconds to Google it.
Addy ***********
Addy ***********
Charles ***********
Charles ***********
Yes there's a prize. The prize is we get to stay in Thailand and not have to return to our home countries, unless we really want to.
Eric *********
Eric *********
@Charles **********
or unless you have to. I.e. forced to.
Cliff *********
Cliff *********
No.

But the reward is you get to live in Thailand year after year.

Not bad huh?
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Cliff ********
wasn’t complaining just asking a question. And definitely not bad at all.
Polo *********
Polo *********
Such a nonsense!
John ********
John ********
After 20 years abidin all the rules at my last retirement ext i was rewarded with a five hour wait on a very hard chair.
Sam *****
Sam *****
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@John *******
Ah Thailand the land of uncomfortable chairs. They are really lucky they have so much else going for them. Most oldies backs are just holding up 😂😂
Eric *********
Eric *********
@John *******
some of these will be rewarded with a very hard dick in the ass, so I suggest they get lubed up
Kevin *******
Kevin *******
Learn to read write and speak thai then apply for thai citizenship ! Easy lol
Sam *****
Sam *****
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@Kevin ******
I actually agree with you here. I was just seriously asking as I wasn’t sure if you just kept doing the same thing for like 30 years or what really.
Alistair **********
Alistair **********
@Sam ****
if you want permanent residency you have to work and pay taxes here for at least 3yrs before applying, this can eventually lead to citizenship. Working can also provide you with Thai social security, which allows you free use of government hospitals. So if you plan to live here for a long time and are young enough it's not a bad idea
Eric *********
Eric *********
@Alistair *********
crap advice. Knowing the right people, greasing the right palms and paying tea money is the quickest and simplest way. I also speak fluent Thai and Issan which means they can't fool an old farang too.
Eric *********
Eric *********
@Kevin ******
did that 10 years ago. I've also got a gun licence
Kevin *******
Kevin *******
@Eric ********
what you shooting ?
Kevin *******
Kevin *******
Eric *********
Eric *********
@Kevin ******
generally, people. I get paid to do it. I'm a mechanic
Tulip ********
Tulip ********
Yes, it's a points based system and don't forget points mean prizes. And don't forget the cuddly toy
Michael *******
Michael *******
Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
VaiAna **********
VaiAna **********
San Sam , what a F'ckn Awesome deal ! Do you work for Walmart ? Buy one and get the second one for half price ?
Eric *********
Eric *********
Get your bellend out at immigration and you get an all inclusive stay at the Bang Kwang hotel with room service and wall to wall ladyboys
Chris ******
Chris ******
Jack *********
Jack *********
I've extended twice and now I'm full blooded Thai. They gave me the key to the city and made me an honorary chief.
Frank **********
Frank **********
Are you being serious?
Timothy **********
Timothy **********
Nationalisation after 5 years if you meet the requirements
Martyn ***********
Martyn ***********
I think your on the wind up mate...
Mark ********
Mark ********
That's what I love about this site...nothing. Everyone's a smart a*se know all.
Chris ******
Chris ******
@Mark *******
Thai forum's are notoriously pathetic... beer and broken hearts could be to blame .
Duncan **********
Duncan **********
Oh the buy 5 get 1 free deal
Dave *********
Dave *********
@Duncan *********
It's good immigration are doing this now. I got a free bottle of water at the petrol station the other day and a key ring at Amazon. Good to see immigration are doing free deals now too.
Gray ******
Gray ******
After 5 years, they moved my immigration office. I guess they don’t want me to renew.
Shayne **********
Shayne **********
USD $60 per year and you're worried about getting a bonus? It's not that hard.
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Shayne *********
nah was just checking for some insight to the future, from those who go before me.
Thomas *******
Thomas *******
Jeff *********
Jeff *********
You are dreaming, the longer you stay the more they don’t trust you! lol
Steve ********
Steve ********
I've had 14 can I have free icecream
Dave **********
Dave **********
@Steve *******
been here 23 years and went to a LTR Visa, .
Steve ********
Steve ********
@Dave *********
I've been here 25 but I only 63 so had a double on one year
Kathalyn *******
Kathalyn *******
Which country does this?Yours?
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Kathalyn ******
I didn’t realise every country was keeping up with each other. I thought that’s why everyone loves Thailand in the first place , because it is good different
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
Kathalyn Ayers imagine trying to stay in UK or USA long-term so easily.
Jarek ************
Jarek ************
@Lynnette ******
no one in their right mind would wanna stay in the US/UK or Canada 😂😂
Jarek ************
Jarek ************
@Lynnette ******
Canada for 17 years, some trips to the US and Europe... Overrated shit holes with nazi governments, increasing crime rate, shit healthcare and education system, rising taxes and cost of living. But I guess some love the rat race and enslavement...
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Jarek ***********
really? Where did you live that made you think that?
Frank-Steven ***********
Frank-Steven ***********
You wish, right? Could make sense, right? But: TIT. Anyways, closest thing what you describe would be "Permanent Residency". But no, this is not awarded automatically after a certain period of stay. You would need to have worked and paid taxes in the country for a while to be eligible to apply for the PR. If I remember correctly, another way would be through marriage.
Jo **********
Jo **********
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Frank-Steven **********
I think the marriage only without work is just for females.
Frank-Steven ***********
Frank-Steven ***********
@Brandon ***********
Curious: Would your LTR in the remote working category make one eligible for a PR? I would expect not. But I don’t know.
Jo **********
Jo **********
@Brandon ***********
actually you may be able. if you have been here for 5 years and speak Thai it’s possible. not saying it’s going to happen but it would be possible
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Chris ***********
you said "the LTR for purposes of remote work". That's the LTR-T remote worker for foreign company. If you have that visa you cannot get a job with a Thai company according to the BOI.
Chris ************
Chris ************
@Brandon ***********
i talked about remote, meaning the "working from thailand" category.

Can work remote taxfree, take jobs also from/for thai companies, but need for each company a different work permit.

Was my friend and his lawyer told from BOI just now being in the process...
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Chris ***********
the "highly skilled professional" LTR is specifically for people that work for a Thai company and includes the special tax rate and work permit. It's mutually exclusive with LTR-T.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Chris ***********
the BOI told someone in the past that had the LTR-T (the remote worker version) that if they later got a job with a Thai company they would need to cancel their LTR (no refunds) and apply for a non-B as they're not allowed to get a work permit on the LTR-T.
Chris ************
Chris ************
@Frank-Steven **********
@Brandon ***********
the LTR for purpose of remote work get a work permit if also working for a local Thai Company.

Taxed with 17% then. Taxfree only for foreign income.

How that could create an entitlement for a later residence... don't know yet.
Frank-Steven ***********
Frank-Steven ***********
@Brandon ***********
Damn. That’s right. World income principle. I hope it is at least a good bit less taxes than if you were in the US.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Frank-Steven **********
I'm American so there's no such thing as tax free income 😅
Frank-Steven ***********
Frank-Steven ***********
@Brandon ***********
I see. I thought so. And yes: The “digital” work permit thing was amongst the things phrased confusing. It sounded like all LTR holders could get them. Thought one could work for a Thai company on the side, too. Oh well, but I guess there is worse things in life than tax-free income. Might give the LTR another go myself.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Frank-Steven **********
unfortunately not because you're exempt from taxes for remote work. Can't even get a work permit which I really wanted for getting a credit card and other things.
Mark ********
Mark ********
Try Thai Elite visa if you have the coin.
Ruth *******
Ruth *******
@Mark *******
that doesn’t solve the problem asked
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
@Ruth ******
it solves it for up to 20 years.
Sam *****
Sam *****
OP
@Ivan ***********
yeah well if I go out young, that might be the ticket 😂
Mark ********
Mark ********
John ********
John ********
Nothing is free in Thailand and the answer to your question is No its a life time commitment
Doug ********
Doug ********
Henrik **************
Henrik **************
What planet are you from 👽?
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
It's Thailand, if anything they will charge you more the longer you stay
Judy *******
Judy *******
The straight answer is no. You extend your visa forever
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
There's not a punchcard. Immigration isn't a cafe.

Your prize is you get to stay in Thailand another year if you meet the requirements.

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