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Is the Soft Power DTV application being rejected more often than Workcation applications?

Jay *******
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Is it true soft power DTV gets rejected more than the Workcation? Trying to find out why so many are getting rejected?!?
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There are mixed reports regarding the rejection rates of Soft Power DTV applications compared to Workcation applications. Some users claim Soft Power applications are being rejected more frequently, citing issues with documentation and the complexity of requirements. However, others note that the rejection rates might depend heavily on the applicant's location when applying, with stricter scrutiny in certain countries, particularly China. Additionally, users discussed the potential for misunderstandings about the DTV system and its categories, emphasizing the importance of well-prepared applications. Nevertheless, without official data, these discussions remain largely speculative.
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Mason *******
Mason *******
No that's not true.
Geoff *******
Geoff *******
Medical route Hong Kong online approved in less than 7 days. Must review requirements thoroughly and read carefully
Dustin *********
Dustin *********
It apparently makes a big difference where you apply from for the DTV. I just got rejected in China for soft power cooking class 9 months, and people on here will say it was my fault, but I do not think so at all. It is not rocket science. And you can get pretty good guidance. Be aware that total costs are also very high for an arbitrary decision visa. I lost $550 for applying. If I traveled elsewhere to apply and hired an agent -then over $1000 and no promise of success. China is not good. Better places are your home country if it's a wealthy country, or Laos is tops, then Vietnam, and Malaysia. There are simply unknowns that nobody can answer partially because they often don't give reasons for rejection so nobody knows what went wrong. Thailand just collects money to pay their workers.
James ********
James ********
@Dustin ********
The mistake by you, sadly, was to make DTV visa application in China.
Alex ****
Alex ****
@Dustin ********
historically Thai Embassies in China has more strict control especially for non Chinese nationals and it's has very low approval rating even for Chinese passports. Many Chinese prefer to travel outside of China to apply for DTV visa.
Dustin *********
Dustin *********
Yeah, I think it's just China. They love their red tape, however it was more economical to try from here while living here, than all involved in moving elsewhere and trying.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
It shouldn't be this difficult. I want to do a cooking class and have a legitimate business (UK LTD company) where I can work remotely but with posts like this, I still don't know which to go for.
Luit *****************
Luit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer 444 When you have a legitimate remote job, DTV workcation is the only option when you want to work fully legal.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
False news its about the application not the type.most dont have correct paperwork or funds. They are trying to scam
Luit *****************
Luit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer 855 What is false news? That softpower is rejected more?

It would be good to see figures of numbers of applications and percentage of rejections, but as long we don't have we just cannot say if it is true or not.
Thai ************
Thai ************
From what I’ve seen, it’s less about “soft power” itself and more about the quality of documentation and proof of participation. Workcation is often easier to support with clear employment, business, or income evidence, while soft power can vary a lot depending on the activity and provider.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
There are no metrics to support this one way or the other.
Mischa *******
Mischa *******
No
Buffalo ******
Buffalo ******
Things are changing in Thailand with regards to foreigners. Look at the news about nominees and arrests. Lots of talk about Thailand for Thais. I have a DTV Visa but I suspect it will change in the coming years depending on the political climate and/or economic climate.

One thing that never changes in Thailand is the fact that it is always changing.
Bob **********
Bob **********
Why would a country give you a 5 year visa for a 6 month course ??
Mason *******
Mason *******
Awww Bobby is getting mad after being given some back for his trolling on here. Gotta love these bored pensioners 😆
Bob **********
Bob **********
@Mason ******
you could never do the things I’ve done and done it everywhere in the World you boys can’t even get pleased in your own countries at a young age that’s sad well good luck,it’s takes a while before you’ll understand SEA. If you ever figure it out
Mason *******
Mason *******
@Bob *********
Time for your afternoon nap Bob, we don't want you getting grouchy.
Bob **********
Bob **********
@Mason ******
your lost
Mason *******
Mason *******
@Bob *********
And you're a Walter Mitty too 😆
Chris **********
Chris **********
@Bob *********
great question mate, but here I am with a 5 year visa having done a 6 month course living my best life buddy 🤣
Bob **********
Bob **********
@Chris *********
And enjoy it good on you there’s plenty at the MOMENT things change very quickly over here I’m good never have to leave
Mason *******
Mason *******
@Chris *********
Bob has been waiting for the DTV to be scrapped for two years now. You'd think he'd find something better to do as it's going to outlast him.
Chris **********
Chris **********
@Bob *********
luckily whiny old bar flies don't make visa policy 😉
Alex ****
Alex ****
@Bob *********
I think your view is heavily influenced by your previous experience with the ED visa system.

Nobody is granted a DTV under the Soft Power category to study for five years—that would not make sense. By the same logic, the Workation category should only be issued as a Non-B visa tied to a specific employer, and if the employment ends, the visa should be revoked. However, that is not how the DTV system operates.

Thai embassies issue a DTV to applicants who meet the eligibility requirements. The visa allows entry for up to 180 days per visit within its five-year validity period.

For example, if an applicant states in the application that they intend to stay in Thailand for 150 days, they must demonstrate that they have sufficient financial resources to support themselves during that stay. In addition, they must show that they either qualify under the Workation category or are participating in a legitimate Thai government-supported Soft Power program for the period stated in their application.

No applicant states in their application that they intend to remain in Thailand continuously for five years. Five years is simply the validity period of the visa, not the duration of a single stay. An applicant may enter Thailand for 180 days, then spend the next four years in their home country or elsewhere, and later return for another 180-day stay before the visa expires.

Therefore, it is not accurate to argue that a six-month course cannot support a five-year DTV. Using the same reasoning, one could also ask how the government can issue a five-year DTV under the Workation category when a person may only work remotely for six months or may even leave that job shortly after the visa is granted. That is simply not how the DTV framework is designed.
Bob **********
Bob **********
Alex Ni Wrong I’ve lived in Thailand 16 years my wife’s family (brothers) are IO and none of them is happy with the DTV just pay attention and get back to me never had an ED visa always non-o
Alex ****
Alex ****
Soft Power applications are sometimes rejected because many applicants submit their DTV applications on their own for the first time. They often believe their application is complete and fully meets the requirements, but in reality there may be missing documents, inconsistencies, or other issues. Agencies that specialize in DTV in most cases wants to do only Worckation applications ( because from worckation can get 100% profit, but with soft power need all them businesses cooperating with thai people and share profits ) usually have much more experience preparing strong cases, while individual applicants often make avoidable mistakes. Thai embassies naturally tend to approve the strongest and most well-prepared applications.

I think there may be a misunderstanding about how the DTV system works. The DTV is one visa with different eligibility categories, including Workation and Soft Power.

Some applicants genuinely qualify under the Workation category because they have stable employment, a high salary, official employment contracts, pay taxes, and can clearly demonstrate their income and remote work.

However, many legitimate applicants do not fit those criteria. For example, freelancers, pensioners, property owners with passive income, business shareholders, and others may find it much easier to qualify through the Soft Power category by enrolling in legitimate Thai Cooking or Muay Thai programs that meet the DTV requirements.

The Soft Power category does not operate in the same way as an ED visa. Educational institutions offering ED visas are regulated by the Ministry of Education, with ongoing government oversight and compliance requirements.

Some people in comments seems to be not understand or try to make other people not properly understand make Soft Power something related to Ed visa, but it's not 🚫.

In contrast, DTV Soft Power programs are different. The embassy evaluates the application and supporting documents during the visa process, but the supporting documents are issued by private companies rather than being individually approved by a government agency not in the same way as an ED visa. The DTV Soft Power process is therefore a different system from the ED visa framework. There is no same government standards and same control for Soft Power as for ED.
Alex ****
Alex ****
From what I have observed, the situation appears to be the opposite. Due to the large number of fraudulent workation applications submitted by some agencies using not real remote employment documents and fabricated proof of income—particularly in markets such as China, Russia, and India—many Thai embassies have significantly tightened their screening procedures.

As a result, workation applications now receive much stricter scrutiny, with additional document requests that can be difficult to satisfy. Unfortunately, this has also affected genuine applicants who fully meet the DTV requirements. Even legitimate Worckation DTV holders are now experiencing increased scrutiny upon arrival in Thailand, and especially some choose who not use from agencies VIP fast-track services to help on arrival during immigration processing.
Bashir *******
Bashir *******
Alex Ni I can confirm this. i have spoken with agencies who offer artificial jobs.

I know this because I regularly speak with agencies as I own a Muay Thai gym and I am approached by agencies all the time and I never know if they use fraudulent methods to try and get unqualified people approved, so i always do a little research.
A. ************
A. ************
There's no real data, but I will say that certain embassies are tightening up on the soft power when it comes to the length of the course they are willing to accept. It used to be that a 6 months cooking or muay thai was commonly acceptable, but it seems that 9-12 months has a better chance these days. Not saying you couldn't get approved with just 6 months (there was dude posting the other day that he and his twin brother were approved with just a 3 month muay Thai course), but longer seems to be a more comfortable play.

Workcation requires a lot more paperwork and I think could be more susceptible to rejection if things are clear.
Andrew ********
Andrew ********
New government - its s way for them to remove the visa with out actually going through the procesd to resmove it or restrict itd use
Brian ****
Brian ****
Nobody could have known Thailand wouldn't give a 5 year visa for a 2 week cooking class.🙄
Alex ****
Alex ****
@Brian ***
or they give 5 years visa for remote work that many people buy documents from foreigner agencies ( Thai people Thai government not getting a single benefit ) that they hired them to proof they working in them companies to meet requirements! Many agencies doing this as well!
For **********
For **********
@Brian ***
but they do
Dana **********
Dana **********
I applied last Thursday in Los Angeles for soft power and was approved by Monday. Less than three business days!
Simi ********
Simi ********
@Dana *********
congratulations! I’ll be applying from Los Angeles in about two weeks via medical route. What software power route did you choose?
James ********
James ********
@Simi *******
suggest you use a Soft Power Activity vs medical reasons for the DTV visa.

The Los Angeles Thai Consulate is VERY good to approve the DTV visa application...as long as you have the requirements for it to be met.

Note that they require US $17,000.

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Dana **********
Dana **********
@Simi *******
Muay Thai - year long course.
Dana **********
Dana **********
Simi ********
Simi ********
@Dana *********
May I pm you?
BravePers*********
BravePers*********
No, tons of remote workers complain about being rejected, lots of paperwork
Christopher ******
Christopher ******
Soft power is lame....

Digital nomad you need to prove you run a business...

Ones based on money youll be spending... the other brings money into the country. Its not even a question
Shaughn ***********
Shaughn ***********
@Christopher *****
soft power was designed requiring people to have a history of good financial reserve and to commit a decent up front cash payment to parts of the local economy (ie the soft power activity). 5 years of marriage and retirement visa extensions may work out cheaper if done without agents
Mason *******
Mason *******
@Christopher *****
Just be respectful and don't look homeless you'll be fine bud, don't worry.
Mason *******
Mason *******
@Christopher *****
I heard they're checking all the DTVs issued out of Vietnam. Because many used dodgy agents and paperwork. DTVs from your home country are the gold standard.
Christopher ******
Christopher ******
@Mason ******
Yeah maybe... they're also phoning around to these training classes now too.. asking if people are attending.
GenuinePin**********
GenuinePin**********
Hasn’t been my Pine-Applely experience, and I’m not even a native species 🍍 May wanna check with @DisingenuineCoconut or @PerniciousPappaya
Kurt *************
Kurt *************
There is alot easier to get the paperwork for workation and document that properly then a 6 month cooking class.
GoldWal********
GoldWal********
Could it be that the applications had faults?
Luit *****************
Luit *****************
GoldWallaby3212 maybe, but more likely they start checking more strict.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
I would have assumed the other way around as sometimes people aren't clear enough with their earnings and contracts etc. soft power is pretty straight forward. I've heard of less soft power reactions both online and on person with people I have met here
Dustin *********
Dustin *********
I don't think soft power is straight forward as it leaves it up to this arbitrary decision whether they think its legitimate enough, and my provider def was, and if just how they generally feel about the situation and if they are accepting many or just not. It's a roll of the dice for a lot of money on the table. But yeah -I can see the issue with people trying to make their various income look like a solid job. Needs to be more clear cut, and give reasons for rejection so this whole community can have a clue. You can see from all these comments it's just a guessing game with no feedback or accountability from the immigration embassies.
Mason *******
Mason *******
Anonymous participant 633 Yes many workation rejections now.
Luit *****************
Luit *****************
@Mason ******
Where did you got figures?
Luit *****************
Luit *****************
@Mason ******
So just what I expected, you have no figures and are trying to divert attention by attacking the person.
Mason *******
Mason *******
Luit van der Linde No more feeding your trolling today lad. Try someone else.
Christer *****
Christer *****
@Mason ******
many of them don't have what qualifies as a job. "Influencers" and such
Luit *****************
Luit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer 633 Softpower might be pretty straight forward, but because it is heavily abused, they will try to stop the abuse.

To make a softpower application trustworthy you might be asked by how you wnat to finance your longer stays in Thailand.

They also might check if numbers of participants at certain schools are realistic.

When you look at reports here you see rejection numbers are rising, especially in countries near Thailand, because they are used by visa tourists who intend to live in Thailand.
ChiangMaiR***********
ChiangMaiR***********
New government, new rules
Karl *******
Karl *******
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Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
Unless you work for Thai immigration, your opinion is worthless. No one knows one way or another. Just a lot of speculation, rumours and BS.
Rob ******
Rob ******
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DTV_Be*******
DTV_Be*******
@Rob *****
you probably should be a little more careful using AI. Two of the three sources used in the link you shared are actually this Facebook page.
Shuval *******
Shuval *******
There is no official data
Karl *******
Karl *******
Certainly the reports seem to suggest that it's definitely true, but it's also entirely understandable
Mason *******
Mason *******
No that's not true.

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