Is it still easy to obtain a Thai visa in Vientiane, Laos, and what transportation options are available from Chiang Mai?

February 13, 2023
2 years ago
Nikola ************
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Hello everyone. I am in Chiang Mai at the moment. On February 23rd I need to leave Thailand and get new visa in Laos or Cambodia. I need a real visa, can't enter on 45 days exemption. In 2011. I got Thai visa in Vientiane super easy in 2 days and was wondering if it's still the same situation. The other option is Cambodia, but I prefer to go to Laos because I would like to visit Luang Prabang again.

Second question is about transportation to Laos from Chiang Mai. Do you know some company that do transfers to either Luang Prabang or Vientiane and how much is the price approximately?

Thank you in advance.
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The user is planning to leave Thailand to obtain a visa in Laos or Cambodia and is inquiring about the current ease of getting a visa in Vientiane compared to his previous experience in 2011. He prefers Laos to revisit Luang Prabang but seeks information on transportation options from Chiang Mai to Laos. Comments indicate that obtaining a Thai visa in Vientiane has become more complicated, requiring appointments and strict adherence to requirements, but some users report that it can still be a quick process. Transportation options include limited bus services, and users suggest considering transit through other cities if direct routes are unavailable.
Nikola ************
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Just to give an update about getting visa in Vientiane. It was super easy. I gave them just 3 papers, flight booking, accommodation booking and bank statement. Visa is 1000 baht. I finished everything both times in less than 10 minutes. Can't remember when I got any visa easier. Vientiane is a small and walkable city. First time I walked to the embassy, second time I took a motor taxi which costed me 1.30$. There were few people applying for visa since everyone else got 45 days visa free exemption.
David **********
Someone was posting today that this was becoming more tricky to do in Laos.
Paul *******
Another good reason to go to Laos and re-enter Thailand from there is that immigration is much easier to deal with than at the Malaysian and even Cambodian borders. There are very few reports of difficulties when coming back into Thailand from Laos, irrespective of the border crossing. All of them are equally good.
Nikola ************
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@Paul ******
I heard the same for Cambodian border, especially the one from Siem Reap to Bangkok that it's very strict and sometimes might refuse visitors.
Paul *******
@Nikola ***********
Yes that's the one to avoid (Aranyaprathet-Poipet). All the buses go through there. None of the other border crossings have cross-border bus services but that's just the nature of things.

The smaller crossings between Thailand and Cambodia are OK but as you have already chosen to go to Laos, the fact that Thailand and Laos operate more than 10 cross-border bus routes, which makes travel a lot easier for those without a car and Thai-Lao immigration checkpoints are a lot more easygoing in general, all point towards using Laos as the place you want to head to.
Paul *******
There is supposed to be a direct Chiang Mai to Luang Prabang bus, but to the best of my knowledge, unlike most of the other cross-border bus services, this one hasn't yet resumed service. The price is (or was) 1200 Baht with a journey time of up to 18 hours!

The Chiang Rai-Bokeo bus is back in business and then you can catch a van or bus to Na Teuy, Boten or Muang Xai (Udomxai) train station and catch a fast train from there to Luang Prabang. After that, to get your visa you'll need to go down to Vientiane or Savannakhet as there isn't a consulate in Luang Prabang.
Nikola ************
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@Paul ******
Thank you for the advice. This looks a bit like a hassle. I guess it's better to pay some extra money and fly from Chiang Mai. The reason I want to go to Luang Prabang first is because that way I can travel by land to Vang Vieng, Vientiane and then enter Thailand and go by land to Bangkok without thinking about flights. If I do Vientiane first, which in this case is easier option than Luang Prabang, I have to know when I will fly from Luang Prabang and by ticket upfront. First option is a bit more relaxing.
Paul *******
@Nikola ***********
It's not too bad at all. It's just the Bokeo-Boten section, which can be covered in as little as 3.5-4 hours by minivan or private transfer, that needs to be done by road but once you're in Boten, the train is super fast and whisks you down to Luang Prabang in no time. It takes about 2 hours. Then it's 1 hour from there to Vang Vieng or as little as 1h50m to Vientiane from Luang Prabang, if you're on the express service.

If you fly from Chiang Mai to Luang Prabang, you might be obligated to purchase an outbound ticket from Laos as one way tickets are usually frowned upon by airlines. Lao Airlines flies this route and I was reading Bangkok Airways does too (but check again, as Bangkok Airways is notorious for starting services then quietly ending them just months later). The airline might still let you fly on a one way ticket, but generally, it's a lot less flexible than if you go by land.

You could also do the slow boat from Huay Xai (Bokeo, Thai border) to Luang Prabang and thus avoid the roads.

Almost everyone uses the train instead of the roads on the north-south journey, unless they come by car or like adventure. If you enjoy adventure, then you'll have no problem with the highway trip from the Thai to the Chinese border, where you catch the train. The road trip from Luang Prabang to Vang Vieng is much more nausea inducing and often takes longer as well.
Paul *******
Note that only the slower trains stop at Na Teuy, so it might be worth traveling the extra 20km from there to the border town of Boten, from where express trains originate (and terminate). Udomxai is in the direction you're heading, but the 100km road from Luang Nam Tha is rough, winding and full of potholes. You're therefore better off traveling an extra 20km north to Boten and letting the train take you the approx. 2 hours from there down to Luang Prabang. It's faster that way.
Brandon ************
There are no more "easy" consulates to get a visa.

Vientiane requires you to have an appointment so if you plan to go there you better look at their website and see if they have any appointments available. It's very possible they do not.

Then check the website of whatever consulate you want to go to for their requirements for a tourist visa. They are very strict on these requirements since covid ended.
Nikola ************
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@Brandon ***********
Thank you for an advice. I will check about an appointment now. As far as I remember, I've never had any problems to get Thai visa and I got 4 so far.
Brandon ************
@Nikola ***********
the requirements changed within the last year and they became very strict. Every consulate in Southeast Asia.
Nikola ************
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@Brandon ***********
I managed to book easily an appointment for 24th. Strict in what term? Having all documents usually helps. If they don't give me visa, there are plenty of other countries to visit, I am not worried too much, but it would be nice to be able to come back to Thailand for another 2-3 months.
Brandon ************
@Nikola ***********
the required documents didn't used to be extensive or very strict but now they're very strict. Like some visas/consulates require you to show hotel bookings for the entire duration of the visa and require a copy of the owner's ID and a paid receipt etc. Things that were never asked for before covid. But the websites should be up to date so if you can meet those requirements you should be fine.
Nikola ************
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@Brandon ***********
As from the info I found online, they only ask to have booked first night in a hostel. Thailand was never strict with documents for visa, but I always give them more than they ask just in case.
Dianne *****
@Nikola ***********
Vientiane is still a relatively easy Embassy to do a Thai visa. About a year before Covid they changed to an appointments only system. When I went in November 2022 there were about 6 other people applying for visas, it was literally deserted. You do need a copy of your bank account showing that you have maintained a balance equivalent to 20,000 baht for the previous 3 months. It must be printed out and submitted with your application-you can't just show it on a mobile banking app. It can be in a foreign or Thai bank account. You also need onward accommodation receipts. I showed receipts for 4 nights accommodation and a bus ticket to Bangkok and they were happy with that. You can do printing outside the Thai Embassy to the right of the gate if you need to print off any of these things. It is a 3 day turn around now ie lodge on the morning of day 1, pick up on the afternoon of day 3. So be careful of weekends, Thailand public holidays, Lao public holidays and Lao office holidays or you could find yourself (like I was) stuck in Vientiane without your passport for an extended period.

You can fly to Luang Prabang from Chiang Mai. Or take the slow boat from Huay Xai
Nikola ************
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@Dianne ****
Thank you so much for the advice. Yes, I already have bank statement ready, will book accommodation for the first few nights and a bus ticket. I heard that I also need an airplane ticket leaving Thailand.
Dianne *****
@Nikola ***********
I don't remember them needing a flight out, but the border back into Thailand does so I had one and submitted it too
Ivica ************
@Dianne ****
Can i ask last time i do visa 2019 before covid there you give your documents and day after afternoon guess from 14 to 17 pm pick up your passport!?

Still like this or you need to wait two days to get visa??
Dianne *****
@Ivica ***********
it is 3 working days now, public holidays and religious holidays aren't counted. So if you submit your paperwork the day before a public holiday you can't pick up your passport for 4 days. If there are no holidays or weekend days in the three days that you are doibg your visa, submit paperwork on day 1 in the morning, collect paperwork in the afternoon of day 3
Ivica ************
@Dianne ****
Thanks

Do visa two week ago in Penang they do it like before ,morning you give papers next day afternoon you pick up your passport!

And was really busy without online , just show at consulat and they do all in 2 days
Brandon ************
@Ivica ***********
she very clearly said it's 3 days
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