Is it practise in Thai immigration not to provide a receipt for the payment of your visa or letter to get a Thai licence? Does this not leave the door open to corruption?
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The conversation addresses concerns about the lack of receipts for visa payments at Thai immigration offices, with some expats sharing their experiences. While some report receiving receipts routinely, others claim it is common not to receive one, leading to suspicions of corruption. Discussions include inconsistencies between immigration offices and the implications of charging unofficial fees for services like residency certificates, prompting questions about transparency and corruption in the system.
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“I will definitely tell you how I was basically RIPPED OFF. Almost a year ago I went to a guy named PEE SOMJET his business is called PHUKET VISA LAW OFFICE Now “law” IS a stretch. HE IS LOCATED ACROSS FROM SOI TA-EID & DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM KFC. IN THE BUSINESS AREA, BOTTOM FL. YOU CAN’T MISS IT OR MAYBE YOU SHOULD! THERE IS A LARGE YELLOW SIGN ON TOP!!
I have used him for 7 years & not had a problem but this time I did. He provides or says he provides visa services. Usually that is true. However, this time it was not. Be that as it may I brought my passport in and he said it will be ready in two weeks with my retirement visa. I paid33,800b & thanked him. Two weeks come and go, no visa OK no problem a month goes by OK still no problem. Since it’s Covid-19 I can’t travel because the airports are closed. But My 90 day check in was coming up so I want to make sure at least that was going to be done. He said to me “NO problem”. This is actually part of his services. This having no visa drags on and on and on and I give him the benefit of the doubt because I know it is difficult times with COVID-19. Plus I’ve known him for 7 years. He continually tells me that because of COVID-19 various immigration offices are closed which is true. So again no problem for me as long as my 90 day reporting is being done. (Which he says it is.)
Now I have learned that my mom is in the intensive care unit. Not knowing if she’s going to live or die I contact him on social media because he cannot be reached by telephone. He won’t pick up his phone. Anyway, He is made aware of the situation and shown pictures of her in the hospital attached to oxygen. This information is also sent and given to his secretary just to make sure he received it. Well wouldn’t you know I get no response at all - crickets, nothing, nada, no response whatsoever. (SO I SUMMISE HE DOESN’T GIVE A SHIT) Of course, at this point the visa is not important to me but my passport is. Again communications ensue, phone calls, line application, instant messaging, nothing! So at this point I can only hope for the best. I find out that without my visa I am still able to go to The airport. But I can’t even do that because he has my passport. I would have to pay a hefty fine but I cannot return for one year. Well after 20 years I I have established I self in Thailand so to leave and not come back would affect many people. Not to mention my family. Now I am F’N Pissed! There is literally nothing I can do without my passport or visa so more months go by. I finally get a hold of him and he says my passport and visa will be ready in a particular month and he doesn’t know what day specifically in the month. So the end of that month comes and I get on the bike - (His secretary called and said he’s in his office) so Breaking all the rules and go to the office and wait. So basically, I had to hunt him down. I surprise him @ his office and he says my passport and visa are not there. “What can I do“ at this point I was livid. You can only imagine what I feel like doing but I didn’t. In the background you can see his big screen TV with his commercials on it that say visa, overstay, etc. and how much and no problem. I saw this and was extremely extremely beside myself because after he said “what can I do” I said you are the lawyer what do you mean what can you do. Oh and by the way I find out he’s not a lawyer! He showed me pictures of his graduation which led me to believe he was a lawyer. Wrong wrong wrong! I told him I need to be back in the US and he said you don’t have your visa yet but you can take your passport to the immigration office in the airport and pay the 20,000 b fine and be blacklisted for one year. This is truly what he said to me. I could not believe it! I’ve been waiting almost 9 months for my visa and this is the answer I get. He said he can have my passport back here the following day, but without the visa. I was so incensed I couldn’t think of the words to respond. Of course it took approximately three days to get my passport back and of course no visa. (I thought here we go again)
The passport finally comes back without the visa, (Big surprise there) and even though he said he had been doing my 90 day Reporting he had not. So now I have almost a year overstay and no reporting (Great) I went to the Phuket volunteer immigration services. (Had I gone to a regular immigration officer I would’ve been put in jail and deported immediately.) The volunteer immigration individuals said I should get a ticket and leave that night. They were being a little over cautious but still the statement was not lost on me. I decided to stay a few more months, take my chances and hope I did not run into immigration and get my affairs in order, and retain an attorney as well. Then bought my tickets and left and hoped in the meantime immigration was not on my tail. I went to Phuket international immigration and paid a large fine (20,000b) and I Received my black list for a year and the litigation continues. But I thought I wanted to tell you so you know that a guy named Pee Somjet of PHUKET VISA “LAW” OFFICE- located directly across from KFC & SOI TAAIED IN CHALONG is very very questionable. To this day I have not received an apology or any thought of returning monies spent for his services to originally get my visa. Be aware please!Also I will be publishing this on all social media accounts and re-posting many times.”
that was a bad experience! I am doing my own visa renewals then at least I know its done. My concern is the malpractices going on in the immigration dept.
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Tobie *****
The fact Thatcher thee only accept cash says it all
Tod *********
In Bangkok you pay 200 baht, they give you a receipt and an EMS tracking number and mail your certificate of residence to you in about a week.
Other offices, no receipt, (they just pocket the money)
ALL offices give receipts to get visas/extensions (2000baht for an in country 90 day Non-imm visa and 1900baht for an extension no matter the length of time it's issued for)
Joseph **************
I always get receipts from Chonburi Immigration
Graham ********
It's not corruption its called oiling the wheels. They will tut tut and say' problem' and shake thier heads but then smile and say ' I can help you,
Don't be ridiculous. There is no corruption in Thailand.
Ivan ************
There is no official fee for the residence cert letter. If you are paying it's a "convenience fee" to get the letter faster. Many immigration offices will issue it free but take weeks or even months, or you can pay (or go through an agent) to get it faster.
that's a normal sort of charge if they did it for you within 24-48h. Even reasonably good value, I have paid 500 before, I know people have paid 1,000. That is the reason why no receipt, it's meant to be free.
maybe that is why they refused to give me a recept. Still think 500 baht is a lot for a letter!
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Rick ***********
It depends how you define corruption. :)
Rick ***********
There is officially no charge for the residency letter so they can't give a receipt. It doesn't open the door to corruption. It is corruption. For visa fees, if they are charging the proper fee, they will always give a receipt.
my question was not really about corruption - that is everywhere in Thailand, I was more concerned that I was not given a receipt when I asked for one.
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Ben *********
Every station has their own, no consistency.
Anthony ********
The stamp is your receipt.
Bobby ********
He's talking about the Certificate of Residency. Nothing to do with visas. From memory they charged me 100 baht. There was no receipt, but I got the certificate about two weeks later.
Bobby ********
Tremaine Charl Ferreira. A multiple re-entry permit is only 3800 baht!! I think you guys should do your homework before going to immigration. They can see you coming!! 🤣
I paid 8,000 baht for multiple reentry visa, without getting a receipt when I asked for one
Bobby ********
Tremaine Charl Ferreira. Three separate things. Visa extension is 1900 baht. Multiple reentry permit is 3800 baht. Looks like you paid 2400 baht for certificate of residency. That's totally ripped off!
, letter for licensing Dept and non O visa renewal. Had to pay 8,000baht for multiple entry!!!!! No receipt received and I asked for one, got the Thai smile and was told they don’t give receipts.
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Stephenie **********
Lieland has its faults
Frédéric ******************
They give a receipt. This receipt was even asked for, once, at the airport because my re-entry stamp had a misspell and they suspected a fake.
James ***********
Only absurd thing was that each time I gave 2000 baht for 1900 baht visa extension fee no one returned 100 baht to me. This happened at Udon Thani immigration. I started to give exact 1900 baht now