How do I pay taxes as a digital nomad on a DTV visa in Thailand, especially regarding the UK tax agreements?

krazyeyez999 right but as Luit says none of that is relevant to your tax status in thailand. You can try to convince yourself otherwise but it doesn't change the facts. I can see why you are posting anonymously now....

krazyeyez999 of course it is true, tax law in this case is easy, each calendar year you are 180 days of more in Thailand you are tax resident, which does not mean you always have to pay tax of course,

@Nick ******

but it's true. Group is full with men smart enough being over 50 and married😅

Anonymous participant 517 you sound really mature! 👏👏

@Darren ******

he teaches people.....god help them....

ConfidentGoose9990 I can read, are you going to actually answer questions? You're self employed, where is your company registered?

ConfidentGoose9990 again, that's not how it works unless you're working illegally for a Thai company or for Thai clients. Presumably you have a registered company or paid via a payroll or into a bank account somewhere?

ConfidentGoose9990 sorry, you say “earned from Thailand” if you are earning money working for a Thai company that’s illegal if you’re on a dtv visa.

Hope you mean that you bring money into Thailand to live off, but you’re paid in another country

@Graeme *******

I was talking to a Thai colleague about renting one of her condos. She only bought it for late night's at the office instead of driving to her house. The other condo she owned was only kept for her mother's visits. I said why not do a corporate let as it is more money and returned in a guaranteed state. She looked at me as though I had 3 heads. I am not paying tax that a corporate let might trigger was her response.

@Greg *******

Exactly, and much of the reason it’s an ambiguous process. I réalise locals can get spotted for tax when dealing with certain départments like land office and transport when buying/selling property etc. which wouldn’t easily affect a farang curry cooker/boxer.

@Graeme *******

Tax department and immigration are not linked. Nobody is teaching days in country or reporting to each other.

bla bla bla

@Nongnuch *******

There is no DTV1, 2 or 3 only the Destination Thailand Visa 😎

Anonymer Teilnehmer 625 there are THREE different types of DTV. You are still wrong!

Anonieme deelnemer 625 No, that might be your opinion, but I prefer to follow official MFA information stating 3 different types.

@Luit ****************

So what you're saying is it's a Destination Thailand Visa. And there's no different types

Anonymer Teilnehmer 625 no, I am saying that on DTV2 and DTV3 you are not allowed remote work for foreign clients

@Nongnuch *******

So you're saying no DTVs allow remote work now? Because all of them are Employment Prohibited

@Adrian *******

Calling people who know the legal rules dumb and clueless, while you obviously do not have any legal knowledge at all about Thai law is not really make you look intelligent.

RedBlueberry7135 So your let AI do your research? I se some opinions, but nowhere official publications that should allow DTV softpower holders to do remote work, only a remark "I found nowhere that it is not allowed"

ConfidentGoose9990 Again, you keep telling embassy is telling you that you can work remotely.

I nowhere see them telling that, but they also just don't have the authorty to tell you that.

They only let you sign a letter that you understand Thai labour law.

And when you get headaches of law, just stop pretending you know anything about it.

This has nothing at all to do with catching people, but is just about informing people correctly so they know the risks of what they are doing.

You do what you want illegaly, no problem for me, it is not my risk but yours.

ConfidentGoose9990 You bored because your fantasy is running out?

555

Embassies granting you permission to work, Immigration issuing you visa, what is next?

ConfidentGoose9990 Embassies cannot grant you permission to work in Thailand, period.

So you have to come with better arguments.

@Alex ********

For Labour Act it does not matter where the money is coming from, outside or inside Thailand.

Even when you not get paid for the job it still is prohibited.

You might be right that they are not really interested in some foreigners doing a remote job, that is why they not enforce it actively.

And for tax laws completely different rules are in place, 180 days or more making you tax resident, and the depending on your exact situation and relevant DTA you might have to pay tax or not.

What do you mean with retirees not checked?

@Luit ****************

So why don't they check pension income, retirement payments, or retirees who stay in Thailand? For what? It's the same as DTV income — it's not from Thailand.

Thai government officials will be interested only in two cases:

Anyone doing work or business locally without a work permit and the specific visa.

Or

When anyone sends money into a Thai bank account and stays here for more than 181 days per year, becoming a tax resident in Thailand.

@Alex ********

Why should Ministry of Labour not have anything to do with Labour Act when it is about remote work?

In the law there is no exception made for remote work.

And what makes you think Thai Immigration should check everyone?

The CAN check if they suspect somebody is working illegally, but as I said before working remotely is already for many years, long time before DTV and LTR not a real priority to enforce.

But with LTR for remote working and DTV workcation, now there are also completely legal possibilities to have a remote job.

For all other visa, including other LTR and DTV visa just nothing did change and they might just keep tolerating the remote job like before.

@Luit ****************

sorry but your information far from reality.

Labor Department nothing to do with DTV till any DTV or old retirement pensioner try to make some local work or business without cancel incorrect visa and apply for correct visa like Non B in order to get Work Permit to work or doing business legally in Thailand and work permit don't require if income outside of Thailand, if you not agree so I believe Thai immigration must check everyone who has no work permit and having work or income outside of Thailand so basically it's nonsense.

@Alex ********

You clearly don't understand who is responsible for what.

MFA is responsible for issuance of visa, they cannot give you permission to work.

Ministry of Labour is responsible foer everyone doing work in Thailand, also tourists.

It is up to them if they decide to enforce the laboutr laws or not.

You never heard me tell they will enforce the law for DTV or any other tourist doing a remote job.

They normally will tolerate, so als long as you keep low profile you will not get any problems doing a remote job, but that is not making it legally allowed like on DTV workcation and LTR for remote workers from outside.

@Luit ****************

they responsible for approval for DTV under different purpose

Ministry of labour nothing to do with tourists under DTV program till they Worckation in Koh Phangan as teaching of Diving locally lol 😂

@Mary *****

Just give the source of your screenprint, to me it does not look like official info, but just AI generated story.

@Alex ********

I don't mix up anything. I just pointed out they are telling you you cannot work legally in Thailand on soft power.

You need the visas I named before in order to do it legally.

But you Do not need a work permit.

I am not a lawyer so I don't know. I am just telling you what they said and you misunderstood

krazyeyez999 please don't mix up dtv with Non B and Non O

Because DTV is a tourist visa it is simple to prove it

When you submit TDAC Thailand form you put there what reason ? Tourist Holiday and this reason used for any DTV visa does not matter what was the reason to get a visa in the first place.

So don't make any DTV from this special. DTV same as free visa or tourist visa, just with different requirements to apply and extend, and with a longer period of visa for multiple re-entries not for permanent stay from day to day, remember what happens with every tourist who stays too long too often.

@Alex ********

I don't think he said you need a work permit. But are just not allowed to do any work if not under DTV category workcation, LTR, Non B Non O

So soft power muay thai would therefor not be allowed to work online even if the company is not in Thailand.

I don't say it's a fact but that's what they are telling you. But they are not saying you need a work permit

@Angelo **********

proof your statement with official statement

People already provided a lot of proof from previous posts from Thai Embassies requests and immigration offices please do your due diligence and check this out

@Alex ********

Working online for remote jobs is only allowed under LTR visa and DTV visa based on "workation".

You are mixing things up, not me.

@Alex ********

DTV workcation can be seen as one of the exceptions on Thai Labour Act for foreigners not needing to have a work permit because it has a royal approved requirement to have a remote job to get the visa.

DTV softpower or DTV dependant does not have such a requirement, and therefore no exception.

@Alex ********

Maybe YOU should verify your information before posting rubbish....

Thai embassies in foreign countries have no jurisdiction at all to decide about working in Thailand.

ConfidentGoose9990 For starters: Immigration did not give you your visa.

Considering that you troll here anonymous, I would simply point out: you are an idiot.

ConfidentGoose9990 So you got your visa from Immigration?

That would mean it is not real, because visa are not issued by Immigration.

You just showed your lack of knowledge about visa.

@Alex ********

MFA has requirements for 3 types of DTV visa, and exacty those requirements decide about an exception on Labour Act.

I never have seen an embassy ask for proof of remote work, simply because it is not a requirement.

They might ask you to show active or passive income, but that is a different thing.

@Bob *********

Because he hasn't thought it through before trolling?

ConfidentGoose9990 while the visa is the same, soft power DTV holders are getting scrutinised a fair bit by IOs upon entry.

@Bob *********

As you can see from the post, they basically do not want to accept self-employment, freelancers, digital nomads, company owners, or small/solo entrepreneurs. Almost all of these cases fall under the Workcation category.

What they want to see is essentially:

• Employment with a Co., Ltd.

• Tax return certificates for the last 2 years

• All relevant salary slips / payslips

• Confirmation from the employer that the employee is allowed to work remotely from Thailand

But in practice, this creates a serious problem.

For many Russian companies, officially allowing an employee to work remotely from Thailand can create additional tax, legal, and compliance obligations for the company.

As a result, many real people who would genuinely qualify for the Workcation purpose simply cannot provide this exact set of documents.

This means that, under these requirements, the Workcation category may not realistically fit a large number of freelancers, self-employed people, entrepreneurs, and digital nomads.

But same time hundreds of ads agents offering 100% guaranteed approvals for very expensive costs just with passport and photo only in Moscow Thai embassy , it's very strange in general.

Anonymer Teilnehmer 625 I also prefer to follow te MfA and the Immigration's take on this matter. Some people on Soft Power DTV2 types will sooner or later find out that they can't work remotely on the DTV2

Anonieme deelnemer 625 That might be your opinion, but I prefer to follow official MFA information stating 3 different types.

@Luit ****************

So it's a Destination Thailand Visa and not DTV1, 2 or 3. Glad I've re-educated you.

@Nongnuch *******

nah, actually I didn't say any of that.

I gave one example, the retirement non-O and the requirement to have nearly a million in the bank OR a regular income of money from overseas, regardless of whether they're actually retired or not. **And that's for just a 1 year approval!

You skipped right over that and gave 3 other random examples

As for the medical recovery: IF a person was making regular income (via online social media, remote work, passive income via stocks or investments or literally any other means of regular income that they get, EVEN while in a hospital bed, that they then *wouldn't* qualify for the visa and would be deported for it? 😂

The trailing spouse visa is not relevant because that is LITERALLY permitting a stay based SOLELY on the other person having a long stay visa and work permit. That is not them wanting to come and survive independently in a country with "no income" .... It's literally in the title: a dependant 🙄 And there is absolutely a minimum amount, as a foreigner making 30,000 baht a month I wouldn't be able to have a trailing spouse visa because Thailand would not consider that a sufficient amount for 2 people to live off of ...

Finally, as for the soft power being approved for 5 years for a 7 month course, you do realize (like anything else) a visa CAN be subjectively approved for a much smaller amount of time, like when someone's passport expires the DTV visas only go to that date. So it is entirely within the discretion of Thailand to approve the visa for only that specific amount of time ( 7 months, 1 year etc) and yet they've DEVELOPED a 5-year visa for that exact reason of coming in and doing a short term course.

Again, your argument lacks logic. It might not be your fault but your willingness to die on a hill you can't defend is giving me secondhand embarrassment for you

@Chelsea *******

😆This is starting to get more and more funny. 😄

There are 3 types of DTV.

Take a long and CLOSE LOOK at the MFA publication! Put on your reading glasses in case you can't read it.

So, you are implying that on a medical DTV (the DTV3) you can rest & recreate in a hospital bed and still allowed to work remotely?

Or on the spousal dependent DTV, the wife is allowed to work remotely? Are you really saying that? You are VERY wrong

Or are you really implying that when your Soft Power DTV2 seven-months Muay Tai Training course is finished, you can still remain in Thailand and work remotely? That would be illegal.

😆This is starting to get funny. 😄

Is the sponsored child of a DTV holder (it is also on a DTV!) allowed to work?

I prefer to follow the MfA and the Immigration's take on this matter. Some people on Soft Power DTV2 types will sooner or later find out that they can't work remotely on the DTV2.

@Nongnuch *******

no yeah you keep saying that and then doubling down on it with zero proof or clarification, and an inability to logically explain how/why 5 year DTV visas for soft power are being approved daily, without much of any required minimum savings, and yet you believe they're also banned from having any income at all 😅

It's cool though, some people aren't actually fit to comprehend the thinking part of their ideas. It's like when little kids say "I know the answer but I'm not gonna tell you!"

It's a cute way for them to protect their ego, rather than admitting their thoughts are made up of nothing and their words are just a product of their nonsensical thoughts.

@Chelsea *******

still your personal opinion, and you are still wrong. There are THREE types of DTV and only on ONE you are allowed to work remotely

@Nongnuch *******

so why are soft power DTVs being approved for 5 years?

The problem is that your opinion lacks solid logic.

As a country, why would they want a bunch of foreigners here and by their own devices have them here for multiple years NOT working at all.

Surely that's a recipe for homelessness? 😅

The best example I have to counter you, is to look at a retirement NON-O visa which absolutely prohibits working AND YET has an option to override the 800,000 kept in the bank by proving a monthly income of at least 65,000/mo.

Some people get this through their pension, but some people, especially at the young(ish) age of 55 can and do still work remotely and gain a monthly income and they're approved for the NON-O, based on retirement, prohibiting work, and yet *are* required to be able to show a regular monthly "income"

@Chelsea *******

This is your opinion. In my opinion the prohibited employment is regarding work for foreign AND Thai clients, unless it is the DTV1. The "hobby course" on a DTV2 is only for 6-9 months. This means they are misusing the visa during the rest of 4 years and half. Had they enlisted for the workation DTV, their remote work would leave them fully elegible for the full 5-year period

@Nongnuch *******

employment prohibited, in this case means work/employment IN Thailand is prohibited. It does not mean they "can't" work their own remote job

Just curious, if someone was here for 5 years and had NO income coming in the entire 5 years, how would Thailand expect them to live and survive for that amount of time doing a hobby course? Really asking

@Nongnuch *******

Yes or no? No deflection 😎

Anonymer Teilnehmer 625 . . just wait, Mister ConfidentGoose9990 will soon be met with truth at the border upon his next entry

@Nongnuch *******

That is just for applications. Does it say DTV1 opposite visa type on yours? Yes or no?

ConfidentGoose9990 3 types, only ONE allows to work

Anonymer Teilnehmer 625 you are wrong, there are THREE types of DTV and only on ONE you are allowed to work remotely

@Nongnuch *******

What does it say opposite visa type on yours you clown? 🤡

ConfidentGoose9990 you are still wrong

@Nongnuch *******

WRONG! There is only the Destination Thailand Visa and not three types. See what it says opposite visa type on yours 😎

ConfidentGoose9990 Yes the Thai government consult him on all visa matters

@Nongnuch *******

You should be sacked 😆

ConfidentGoose9990 I am not confusing anything. I am a visa adviser expert and admin of Thai visa advice group. I KNOW 100% what I am talking about

ConfidentGoose9990 you are still wrong, believe it or not I don't care

@Mary *****

Tax law nowhere says you need to put the money you bring in a Thai bank account, just bringing it in is enough, so your remark about not having a Thai bank account is completely 100 percent irrelevant.

The picture you show also mentions "or bringing it in to cover living expenses".

I am not partially correct, but just 100 percent correct.

ConfidentGoose9990 These pensioners think they know better than the Thai embassy staff. How deluded of them

ConfidentGoose9990 Yea I have some Geese on the farm 😎😎😎

ConfidentGoose9990 yea a person that’s scared to show there name go get em Mr confident

Anonymer Teilnehmer 625 is that why you hide behind a nickname?

@Nongnuch *******

It's you who can't handle the truth Jerry

ConfidentGoose9990 you cannot escape or ignore truth

@Nongnuch *******

Stop deflecting and answer the question lad

@Luit ****************

Exactly youngsters think they know how things work here 😎😎😎

ConfidentGoose9990 Why on earth should you need remote job when you do a soft power training.

When you have a legal remote job you can get DTV workcation, or in some cases LTR for remote work.

You don't need all the paperwork for the softpower training an can freely choose a softpower activuty when and where you like.

ConfidentGoose9990 there is a DTV for working online do you really think Thailand is going to let you enter for 180 days for 5 years because you want to take a class to learn how to cook rice ,Your all not very familiar how things work over hear the IO’s aren’t big on the soft power you’ll see I luv it when anonymous people who’ve been here a few telling us that’s been here for 10-20 years what’s up

@Bob *********

You've started early today Bob it's just gone midday. Why don't you go for a walk?