How can I open a bank account in Thailand to apply for a retirement visa since banks require a visa to open an account?

Jan 28, 2025
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Lester *********
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Can someone explain the following?

If you need a bank account to get a retirement visa, as you have to show 800k baht in your bank account, why do the banks say you need a retirement visa to get a bank account? I’m trying to open an account and get my own visa. Is this even possible or do you have to use an agent. Is there anyone from the UK who can explain the process please
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The discussion highlights the challenges expats face when trying to obtain a bank account in Thailand for retirement purposes. There is a common predicament where banks require a retirement or NON-O visa to open an account, yet obtaining this visa necessitates having funds deposited in a Thai bank, creating a catch-22 situation. Solutions suggested include obtaining a NON-O or O-A visa before arriving in Thailand, using agents to help navigate the process, or seeking assistance from Thai locals when dealing with bank staff. Moreover, it was noted that some banks might open accounts for individuals on tourist visas in certain conditions, but it is generally more difficult.
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David ***************
Apply for an OA visa from the Thai embassy in your home country.
Dave ************
Like most things in thailand, it is easier to go through an agent.

And pay them in cash. Then they give a little backhander to various people who get involved. Welcome to thailand, where there is no corruption honestly.
Mike *******
Anybody recommend an agent to open a bank account
David ********
In my experience to get an "OA" Retirement visa in your home country, you do have to have the Bt800,000 in your home country's bank account, but there are no requirements to keep it there once you have entered Thailand. It is still in your private bank account in your home country, you can spend it as you wish and no conditions. On getting the 12-month extension of my 2 x OA visas, no one at Thai Immigration enquired where the Bt800,000 was. I was free to spend it as I wished. Although I did have more than the required amount no one at Thai Immigration enquired. Not interested when I volunteered that information.
Lester *********
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@David *******
I’ve gone on the E visa official application website and on it I can apply for a long term retirement visa, with multiple entry

However, it asks for the following

1) Proof of permanent residency in the country where the application is submitted

2) Financial Evidence showing monthly income of no less than 65k or having a current balance 800k

3) Medical Certificate issued from country where the application is submitted showing no prohibited diseases as indicated in Ministerial Registration No14 BE2535

4)Health Insurance issued by Thai or Foreign insurers for general illness including COVID 19 with insured some of no less than 100k US or 3mill THB

5) Foreign Insurance Certificate as stipulated by the Office of Insurance Commission and Health Insurance of Thailand, which must be completed, signed and stamped by the insurance company. Form can be downloaded from
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6) certificate of criminal record clearance from country where the application is submitted showing
Graham ******
@Lester ********
Yes, that is the Non-OA Visa
Lester *********
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@Graham *****
Cool. Seems a bit daunting at first but it’s all pretty straight forward. £65 for the criminal certificate. Does anyone know the actual cost of application in the UK and any costs related to the certificates
Peter ****************
Maybe a tip: Friend of mine did not have a bank account but could put 800k฿ on some kind of account, in his name, at the Bangkok bank. It's a yellow/orange bankbook so think it's some kind of fixed deposit account 🤷‍♂️. Did not pay attention what 'the book said'. He did not have a regular account with debit card, app etc. He got his year extension (retirement) with that. This was Korat imm.
Miroslav *******
With Non-O 90 days visa you can open accaunt in any bank
Ken **********
I went through a visa agent for everything. Much easier.
Bill *********
@Ken *********
Agree 💯 % I used an agent and all done in under a half day. Definitely worth it since I put a high value on my time!
Ally ************
You can normally apply for the initial 90-day non-o visa without seasoning the funds.. meaning after you get it you must have funds deposited to a Thai bank account by day 30.. thereby giving it 60 days to season before returning for your 12-month extension.. at least that's how it worked for me with a non-o based on marriage in CM.. but you will need to check with your own immigration office to see if that process will work for you!
Andrew **************
Get a Residence Cert. Take this along with your Passport and that should help.
Henrik *****
Banks in Thailand are like everywhere in the world, interested in having good stable custormers, that have a permanent address, a steady easy traceable income, and use the account all year round.

That is why the banks are reluctant to give accounts to people on short time ( read: tourist ) visas, and who only spend part of the year in Thailand.

Don’t expect to get a residence certificat, until you have stayed at a permanent adress in at least 3 month, since that is what the residence certificat should confirm.

Furthermore the added attention on whitewashing of money, is an added burden on the banks, so reluctant depositing large amounts isn’t a guaranteed way to open an account.

The value of a resident certificat, had gone down, since Immigration Officers are giving them to people that are not on a longterm visa, or have stayed severel months at 1 adress in Thailand, so even if it is a formal requirement, the bank make up their own assesment of the stability of the want-to-be customer.

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Ian **********
Yeah, it's called catch-22. If you have a non-Imm O Visa, you should be able to open an account. Just keep trying different branches
Vinay ********
I used an agent after trying so many over a few years. I'm not a retirement visa but wanted a regular input of 65k over a year. Having a bank of Bangkok account keeps it there and the evidence will be easy. Its something about their systems that doesn't add up, including proper visa advice. In all countries the immigration officer will decide but the process should be more straightforward. Maybe money changing hands has something to do with it
Peter **********
You only think they say this, but a retirement visa doesn’t exist. So you can not need something which doesn’t exist.

Now, there is something which is called a non-o visa based on retirement.

You need this visa to get a bank account (there are other possible visa, but let’s stick with “retirement).

The visa is valid for 90 days. After that you need an “extension of stay based on retirement”. Not a visa, but a permit to extend your stay for one year.

You need the 800k bank balance for 2 months to be able to request the extension.

Now, I ask you: Where did you see “retirement visa”?
Joseph *******
@Peter *********
You are, of course, correct. But a bit uptight. English speakers are notorious for simplifying language for convenience, such as referring to physical education class as gym when technically “gym” refers to a place for working out with weights. So, rather than speak from an elitist podium with “I have an extension based on a non-immigrant type O visa based on marriage” while retaining a firm, straight face without laughing, isn’t it easier to just call it marriage visa? Yes, it’s not technically correct, but who cares? Are we worried about speaking or teaching correct English? In Thailand???

And if we go this route, then shouldn’t our written prose equally be subjected to the same judgemental strictness (e.g., commas should always appear after the word, “so,” when beginning a sentence)?

Don’t mean to go overboard here, but it just seems too many people on this forum get hung up on the precise wording to use when referring to visas. “Retirement visa” or “marriage visa” is simple & universally understood.
Joseph *******
So, you feel misunderstood then?
Peter **********
@Joseph ******
Problem in this case, and the reason why I raised the issue, is that there are *two* phases of the process which are often referred to as “retirement visa” but the OP doesn’t even understand that. And, like yourself, he can not read the explanation either.

So,,,,,, It’s very cool to throw a language thing at a non native English speaker (I’m sure you felt really important while doing that), but it would even be much more cool if you had activated that other brain cell as well and had tried to read and understand my comment. Then you would have understood why I explained about the two different phases.

Now,,,, which part is a “marriage visa”? Is it the non-O,,,,, or is it the extension?

Because the OP is clueless,,,…!!!
Joseph *******
@Peter *********
Honestly, Peter, who cares?
Peter **********
@Joseph ******
The OP cares, which is why he asked a question. I care, which is why I answered and explained.

If you don’t care: Scroll!
Lester *********
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@Peter *********
Thanks for all you help Peter, it is appreciated. I listen to everyone’s advice.
Lester *********
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@Joseph ******
And he didn’t answer the question I asked 555
Peter **********
@Lester ********
Then you didn’t read too well either because “he” perfectly answered your question. But reading and drinking….

Hmmm… not a good combination. 🤣
Bart **************
David ********
What? you have to pay to put money in a bank. I always thought it was supposed to be the other way around. But then this is Thailand, of course. Silly me.
Steve *********
@David *******
you need
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0 bhat. To do it thru right channels. However some agency’s ( who charge ) can sometimes get you one without having that amount in. ( but you still need bank account )
David ********
In my experience and understanding throughout the world Bt5000 to open a bank account is called a scam. You either qualify or you don't.
Steve *********
You need a 90 Non O visa to start with from London embassy, when you here with the Non O visa you can get Bank account, ( you need letter from immigration, quite easy ) then you can open bank account, Then deposit
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0 bhat , you then apply for a 12 month visa, you need report every 90 days after you have this ( can be done on line )
Randy ******
@Steve ********
Quick question: The timing seems very tight. Need to move to Thailand on tourist visa, settle in, open bank account and wire 800k in 30 days in order to be eligible for one year retirement visa (as money needs to be sitting in bank for 60 days). If one cannot meet the deadlines, can we do a border run then come back? Also speak zero thai. No thai gf. No local friend to help with communication
George’s **********************
@Randy *****
good question
Steve *********
@Randy *****
. In some cases you can open a bank account with tourist visa , but to do it thru the right channels you need a non O visa. If you have all the right docs this can be done on line in a few days. It changed in about August and you need letter from immigration . Are you from Uk. ? Ps I tried on a visit visa and was turned down 3 banks. My gf has cousin in bank she said just can’t do it
Joseph *******
@Steve ********
There is an unofficial caste system in Thailand. If you have a Thai friend who’s considered above the working class (e.g., military officers, police, school teachers, doctors, & so on), bring them with you & you’ll have no problem opening an account.
Lester *********
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@Steve ********
Is this the same process for a retirement visa as I am over 50
Steve *********
@Lester ********
yes. I am 65 and done mine in September 24. When you in Thailand at bank and immigration if you have Thai gf or friend who speaks Thai and English this will help, as staff not always speak English.
Lester *********
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@Steve ********
thank you Steve
Steve *********
@Lester ********
message me if you need any help. ( some bits can’t openly write here )
Lester *********
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@Steve ********
Will do mate I’m in Isan at the moment but I’m back in the uk next month. If I get stuck I will give you a shout if you don’t mind
Steve *********
@Lester ********
I live in Isan ( Roi-et ). Love it. Message me anytime. ( before you put application in will give you a few pointers ).
Lester *********
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@Steve ********
Awesome, I’m in Nong Bua Lamphu but moving to Maha Sarakham soon. Love Roi Et, the tower is a bit scary though
Brandon ************
@Lester ********
Non-O is retirement visa.
Bart **************
Get retirement visa before going.
Colin *********
The way I did it was to go to Thailand on o visa at pattaya sea front bangkok bank ask for a deposit account and they said you can have one if you take out heath insurance not shore how much about 1000buat(£25) did not care about the cost needed the account like you still have it now
Colin *********
Extended the o visa every year 1 month before it run out, this year passport runs out of time so now in the UK
James ******
You keep it up you will be able to do it or you can get a service to help you
Brad *******
You don’t need an agent. It’s a waste of money. You can get a bank account on your own.  
Bill *********
@Brad ******
It wasn't a waste to me. Money well spent.
Timothy *******
@Brad ******
Not on a tourist visa
Wylie *******
Banks used to let people on tourist and visa exempt open an account with a few documents. The last several years they've gotten less willing to. Unfortunately since there is no law that actually prevents them from doing it then immigration doesn't really care since legally you are allowed to, it's not their fault the banks won't do it.
Michael *******
@Wylie ******
same all over the world, banks are reluctant to allow non residents to keep an account in their country, I speak from experience, in Dubai, Hong Kong-and South Africa…..
Tim *********
Arrive with a O visa for 90 days, obtained from the Thai embassy in your country. With that you can open a bank account. Deposit 800,000 for 2 months before applying to extend the visa to a total of 15 months. The problem is with people who don't apply for the O visa at home, so arrive as tourists and are surprised when banks don't see you as long term customers
John **********
With some bank branches getting a residence certificate from immigration can help along with the reason you need the account. If you can take a Thai along to vouch for you that also helps
Steve *********
@John *********
when I hear in July the immigration certificate was not a requirement. When I came in September the same bank lady said I need this. 500 bhag and 30 minutes in immigration. Sorted
Graeme ******
The thai banks don't open accounts for visitors I.e. tourist visa 's or visa exempt etc. As you are not going to be a permanent resident. The long term visa's demonstrate you have intentions to stay i.e the O visa ( in country or from your own country through the thai embassy). So to get a bank account without using a workaround ( an agent) its best to come with an O visa or an O-A visa ( or others) from your own country ready prepared. The reason why you need money in a thai bank account is to show you have funds in a local account should you need it in an emergency ( no health insurance requirements with an O extension in country)
David ********
@Graeme *****
Yes, I understand all that as I have previously obtained 2 x "OA" Thai Retirement Visas from the Thai Embassy in Canberra Australia and many Thai Tourist Visa. No matter how hard you try to explain it is still a scam. All are engineered to cause complications and dysfunction to retirees from around the world. Like the old "Too many cooks spoil the broth" Every politician and government worker in Thailand wants to have an input, all different. It seems time for a good dictator.
Keith *******
@Graeme *****
impossible for me where I live with an OA
Jared **********
@Graeme *****
don’t forget you can’t even on the DTV visa lol
Graeme ******
@Jared *********
yes as it's classed as a tourist visa
Jared **********
@Graeme *****
i know it’s just funny, you can stay for 5 years,

180 days on entry and spend the whole time aside from resetting the visa here….but it’s a tourism visa
Graeme ******
@Jared *********
yeah it can only be explained as its thailand 😁😁
Michael *******
@Graeme *****
try opening a bank account in most countries as a non resident, I have had my accounts closed in Dubai, Hong Kong and South Africa since I retired due to lack of residency status, global problem unfortunately.
Graeme ******
@Michael ******
yes there have been many people having their bank accounts closed in the uk once the bank knows you live elsewhere
Michael *******
@Graeme *****
that’s my next challenge, hoping a 35 year history with them will allow me to keep once I sell up….
Mark ***********
I have heard it is very very difficult without an agent

I used an agent to open my bank account and it was worth every baht spent
Bill *********
@Mark **********
Agree 💯 % I used an agent for my initial visa and the renewal, both done in under a half day. Definitely worth it since I put a high value on my time!
Len *****
@Mark **********
and English bank workers not good at Thai language
Steve *********
@Mark **********
it’s not difficult. But I did have help from my gf who is fluent in Thai and English. The staff at bank and immigration centre, not that good English.
Phil ******
@Lester ********
there are agents in Pattaya that can do this.฿5,000 upwards.

Good luck
Ian ********
I had the same dilemma but I'm going onto an education visa before retirement visa.

Main options seem to be....

1 Apply for visa before you visit Thailand and you can then open a bank account when here

2 Pay an agent to do it

3 Try Bangkok bank...from what I've read, some will do it and some won't

As you're not meant to open a bank account whilst here as a visa exempt tourist your options are limited if you're already here.

I'm sure someone will correct me I'm I'm wrong 😅
Jason ******
@Ian *******
Bangkok bank will do it if you get a residency certificate from immigration (500bht express in an hour),and you have to buy Bangkok banks insurance(even if you have your own)around 5000bht.
Steve *******
@Jason *****
You don't have to buy insurance to open a Bangkok Bank account and you don't need a residence certificate, just proof of your address, ie utility bill, rent receipt, rental agreement etc.
Jason ******
@Steve ******
not my words Steve,I'm only repeating what the Bangkok bank branch in Hua Hin asked for ,and it looks like all ask for different stuff.
Steve *********
@Jason *****
I got mine at Bangkok bank. In octotober. Never mentioned insurance
Jason ******
@Steve ********
that was good ,maybe different locations ask for it,this was in Hua Hin and for visa exempt stamp,if other visa no insurance required . 🙏🏽
Steve *********
@Jason *****
it does seem to change from region to region, mine was in roi-et Isan . Seems there is certain criteria, which depending on where you live and if you use an agent , the criteria may be more relaxed !!!
Stuart *********
Classic Catch-22. You must have an account to get a “retirement visa” or extension but can’t open one if you don’t have one….

If you apply for the initial Non O from London then it will make the process much easier to open an account.

If you’re already here then you’ll either slog it out trying 100s of branches or just use an agent.
Wayne ********
@Stuart ********
this was a few years back, but I got my bank account a Bangkok Bank at the Bid branch on Sukhumvit. At that time they’re only requirement was that I had a certified copy of my passport from the embassy.
Stuart *********
@Wayne *******
Things have tightened up a lot recently. It still may be possible without an agent but difficult.
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