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What are the options for opening a bank account on a tourist visa in Thailand and pursuing long-term residency?

Sep 18, 2024
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Ian ********
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I am on tourist visa been here 3 months need so e help law has changed and i cant open bank accoumt on that visa . Has to be a long term visa so all the banks have told me .

So i want to retire here. I have well over 65000 a month but not the 800.000 to prove.

Only options i can see possibly education visa. Prove 12 months if i can open bank account on that.

Get a job get permit and visa not easy.

Or get an agent to do the bank account and the 800.000 not keen on that as the next year id want to extend myself. Ive hurd there could be issues . Any decent advice be good. Those usual idiots need not reply . Its genuine advice i need i am from uk . Live samrong bkk. If you need any other answeres ask me
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The user is currently on a tourist visa in Thailand and is looking for options to secure a long-term retirement visa but is facing challenges opening a bank account necessary for the visa requirements. They require advice on whether an education visa, work visa, or using an agent to facilitate the necessary bank account and funds is the best course of action. Commenters suggest that the safest way forward is likely using an agent to open a bank account and handle the required financial proof for the retirement visa, as DIY methods may lead to complications.
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Chris *********
Seek an agent who will sort it all for you. You don't need the 800k in a bank.
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Ed ********
use an agent
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Dave ********
I just got the new DTV Visa - 180 days on a single entry and extendable by another 180 days at the local immigration office - it is a 5 year multiple entry visa all you have to show is you have money in your overseas account.. THB 500k for the last 3 months - costs circa 10,000 THB
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Chris ******
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I'm sure there's some horror stories going forward with this visa .
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Dave ********
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I have it for 5 years…after which I can consider a retirement visa …
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Nigel ********
You could apply for a Non OA 2 years or OX 5 year from the UK might be easier But you will need to have the correct insurance for either of those visa
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John *********
sorry cannot help
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Courtney ******
I need more INFO For The Work From US visa! Got The Job! But confused by The Visa!
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Sean ********
Netty helped me get a Bangkok Ac

I only had 1 month left on my tourist visa
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John *********
Chat to Sylvia Corey on FBook
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Ian ********
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@John ********
can you send a lonk to here details please
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John *********
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Sylvia is on fb & messenger she helps many ppl with immigration problems, she is not an agent but has over 20 years of

visa experience. hope this helps if you have thai Sim card let me av yr number.
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John *********
can get visa for
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Ian ********
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@John ********
is this the price from sylvia
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John *********
@Ian *******
no Sylvia uses a lady called Tar

but she does not rip ppl off.
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Ian ********
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Brrrrrr
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Dominic *********
I can only say from my experience of living in Thailand, is the Thai's change the rules on a regular basis! I would never retire in Thailand because of the constant changes, but I would love to spend more time in Thailand! Yes, I don't have the information you are asking for!
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Lee ********
Get an agent
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Andreas *********
We are talking about the most common and persisting misunderstandings regarding the rules that come with applying for the “retirement visa” and the subsequent “one-year extension of stay permit based on retirement”

In order to apply for the “90-days Non-Imm-O retirement visa” through the online E-visa system at the Royal Thai Embassy of your home country,

You can use the proof of income of a monthly minimum of 65.000.- THB, by using your pension letters. Or you use a deposit of a minimum of 800.000.- THB or the equivalent in your home country, or on your bank account in your home country or anywhere in the World

However, for the application inside Thailand, for the “1-year extension of stay permit” out of the 90-days Non-Imm-O retirement visa, if you are a citizen of a country, whose embassy in Thailand does not issue the “income affidavit any more (these are the embassies of USA, UK and Australia)

you would need proof by a “12 months bank statement”, showing that for the past 12 months, you have been transferring from abroad to your Thai bank account a minimum of 65.000.- THB, consecutively month for month

If your embassy still issues an affidavit of income, you can use this method for the financial proof, which needs a monthly income or pension of a minimum of 65.000.- THB

For British, Australian and U.S. citizens, in the first year there is no other way around, than depositing a minimum of 800.000.- THB in your Thai bank account and use this deposit for the financial proof which is required for the application to the “one year extension of stay permit based on being over 50/retired”

The alternative would be, if you don’t have that kind of money or are not willing to deposit in a Thai Bank account is, paying an agent a hefty sum (mostly in the range of 30.000.- THB) to “arrange” the requirements (which means bribing an Immigration officer to look the other way)

The downside is, you will get stuck with the agent for a while. You will have to pay to get an agent to help with bank account.

Then you will need an agent to fix your 800k issue. You will be trapped on the agent wheel.

To qualify you will need the 800k by the agent the first year and simultaneously deposit 65k per month for 12 months without fail, to qualify the 2nd year for income method.

If you use an agent you will not qualify for the 2nd year as you did not have the money in the first year . . . . So will use an agent, again and again.

The only way to escpe the agent’s wheel is:

As soon as you have accumulated the 12 consecutive months of 65.000.- THB transfers (and this will be some time during the second "agent-year") all you need to do is exit Thailand without a re-entry permit. This will kick the agent from the plate.

By this you will invalidate the current "1-year extended stay permit". And once you re-enter Thailand "visa-exempt", you will get stamped in for 60 days. You can then immediately apply for the "change of visa type" from the "exempt entry" to the "90-days Non-imm-O retirement visa" all by yourself, using the bank statement proof of income of 12 months transfers.

This application costs a 2000.- THB fee and you can theoretically do it all by yourself, or accept the help of an agent for the simplified- legal! - service.

NOTE: it is income OR deposit. And there is a third method, called the “combination method”: a combination mix of income and deposit. Some immigrations don’t allow the combination method in the first year.

On the day of application, the 800.000.- THB need to have “seasoned” in your account for two months, and this has to be proven with the “bank letter of guarantee” (rab roong thanakan).

After been issued the “Extension”, the 800K need to remain in the account for 3 more months. After these 3 months, the deposit shall never go under 400.000.- THB. And two months before your application for the next “one-year Extension of Stay”, the minimum of 800.000.- THB have to sit in the account, again

When you get issued the “1-year extension of stay permit”, you should buy a re-entry permit. A re-entry permit will keep your stay permit alive if you exit Thailand before the expiry of the 1-year stay permit.

A single re-entry permit is 1000.- THB on Immigration. A multi re-entry is 3800.- THB, with this one you could exit and re-enter as many times as you wish during the stay permit period.

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There is another road to the “1-year ‘Extension of Stay based on retirement”

You can arrive visa-exempt or on a 60 days single-entry Tourist Visa, you will get stamped in for 60 days.

You visit Immigration and show them a bankbook with proof you got 800.000.- THB in your bank account, and a proof that this money came from abroad.

You apply for the “change of visa type” from the touristic entry to a “90-days Non-Imm-O retirement visa”

To be allowed to apply you need a minimum of 15 days left on your stay permit stamp. And you need a rental contract.

They will issue the visa for 14 days “under consideration”

After this period, you pick up the 90-days Non-Imm-O visa stay permit stamp

From up to 30 days (in some places 45 days) before the 90-days stay permit expires, you can apply to the “1-year extension of stay based on retirement”

The requirements are the same as explained above. You can find them when you google for “change of visa type immigration Thailand” and click on number 9

Good Luck and a great time in Thailand
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Ian ********
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@Andreas ********
just as a thought could i look for work get employer to do work visa and work permit then get bank account then submitting
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k for 12 months rhen apply for retirement visa
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Andreas *********
@Ian *******
99% of all professions are forbidden for a foreigner to work. And it wouldn't solve your problem immediately, because when using the 12-months 65.000 THB proof, the money must have come from abroad for 12 consecutive months. It cannot be earned inside Thailand
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Ian ********
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@Andreas ********
id still have the money coming in though . There would be no change there
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Andreas *********
@Ian *******
okay. That's doable. Staying in Thailand on a Non-Imm-B employment visa and the subsequent 1-year extension. From an "extension based on employment", you can change the "reason" from employment to retirement, as soon as you got those 12-months of transfers and think you are ready. Getting an employment is a steep obstacle
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Tobben ********
I got bankaccount in Bangkok Bank on a 30 days touristvisa using the adress for my hotel .
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Graham ******
@Tobben *******
So did I with Kasikorn on Pattaya Tai but that was about 18 years ago
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Ishbel ***********
@Graham *****
me to about 25 years ago then took all the money out 12 years ago when i came back to UK. How i regret that now 😢
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Andreas *********
@Tobben *******
how many years ago? 😄
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Tobben ********
@Andreas ********
2006 but I was there in july 24 and got internetbanking . Only needed a thai phonenumber.
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Noel ********
Bangkok bank between Sukhumvit soi 12 and 14

Account with tourist visa should be no problem
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Ian ********
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@Noel *******
thanks i will try
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David ***********
Just buy property here. Gets you residency with which you can get a bank account! Forget all these 'agents' theyll just take your money.
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Ar *******
The agent for visa said I needed a phone to download app for the retirement visa I’m applying for .
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Ar *******
Is it possible to open a bank account without a Thai mobile ? Do all banks need apps , I would prefer just to have an account with a card to withdraw/ deposit and pay for goods. I’m not keen on online banking. Very old fashioned I know before I get stick from members. I have uk phone and someone said just to get a Thai sim and put it in. I want to keep uk phone for my other contacts , so where can I get a Thai smart phone reasonably priced and a network sim which I could use separately from my uk phone.
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@Ar ******
phones are cheap in thailand
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Marc ********
@Ar ******
Yes you can tell them to delete you're phone number.

That's what I did
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Ar *******
@Marc *******
hi Marc , I want to keep my uk number and contacts for personal and work reasons . So that why I thought about having a second phone just to use for Thai contacts, bank and bolt app etc .
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Marc ********
@Ar ******
You cannot use your UK number to open Thai Bank account.
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Ian ********
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@Margaret *******
have messaged
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Tim *********
Agent will open bank account and arrange visa. Unless your embassy in Thailand will provide an affidavit confirming your income, I think you have gew other options. Shop around. In Pattaya it's possible to find an agent to do this for 12,500 but some will quote many thousands more
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Ian ********
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So the only option is get an agent to open the bank account and deposit 65 k every month and my tourist visa is valid for 9 mo ths so could get 3 month retirement visa and then apply . Maybe come out of country a little bit till the 12 months is up
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Brandon ************
No, you cannot do that. The ONLY way to convert to a non-O visa or to get the first 1-year extension is with 800,000 in a Thai bank account or with embassy certified income. Since your embassy does not provide income certification then your ONLY option is with 800,000 in the bank. Even if you have 65,000 transferred every month for 2 years, it won't help you. Monthly transfers is not an option for the conversion to non-O visa or for the first 1-year extension.
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Ian ********
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@Brandon ***********
Really . Its not what i have read or seen adviced on here. As far as i am aware i can use 800k 65k or a combination of both. To retire .
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Kirsten *********
@Ian *******
it’s true. I did the 3 month non O and you have to show funds the first year. Then the 2nd year I was able to do the renewal based on the 12 month transfers. Perhaps if you have well over
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a month as you say you could reduce COL to work up to getting your 800,000 over your first year here?
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Ian ********
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@Kirsten ********
so if i go agent could i do it myself after 2 years
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Brandon ************
@Ian *******
only if you can show your immigration office you had 800,000 baht in your bank account for 3 months after your previous extension and never let your bank balance drop below 400,000 the rest of the year
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Ian ********
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@Brandon ***********
is that why id have to use an agent all the time
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@Ian *******
yes. Until you can show that, you'll need to use an agent so that they ignore you didn't follow the rules
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Joseph ****
@Ian *******
Trust him. You can checked archived posts: he's extremely well-informed. He's just trying to help you.
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Ian ********
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Kenneth *******
Agents are not needed for any Visa.
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Graham *******
just put the money in a Thai bank, they do not care how you get it. Alternatively use an agent to circumvent things.
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Ian ********
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@Graham ******
what money .
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Ian ********
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I cant open a bank account
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Graham *******
@Ian *******
use an agent.
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Ian ********
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@Graham ******
i see thanks
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Graham *******
@Ian *******
where r u planing on staying
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Ian ********
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@Graham ******
im in samrong bkk now minimum 12 months
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i do not know any agents in BKK. try BKK expats.
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Hugh **********
800k is what $23.000 US. take out a loan in your home country on the strength of your 65k income, deposit in Thai bank and in the second year use your income of 65k to meet requirements. I won’t get offended if you say I’m wrong 😑
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Ian ********
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@Hugh *********
i aggree would work . But would not get a loan in the uk like that im afraid
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Hugh **********
@Ian *******
ah ok, good luck I’m sure everything will work out. 👍
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John **********
First thing to say is that without having the 800k to put in the bank your not going to be able to do it yourself whether you have a bank account or not. That means your only option is to use an agent to both open the account and seed it with money, and yes you will have problems trying to extend it yourself the following year so will likely be stuck with an agent.
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Stephen ********
Retirement visa. No deposit needed.
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Andreas *********
@Stephen *******
you are WRONG, a 800.000.- THB deposit is needed for the application to the "1-year extension of stay based on retirement" because as a U.K. citizen, he cannot use the income method in the first year (that, or no money at all then an agent bribes Immigration, it starts at 30.000.- THB agent fee and he wil lbe stuck with the agent for minimum 2 years)
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@Andreas ********
Thai government website is lying then?
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Andreas *********
@Stephen *******
what is it you don't understand?
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Stephen ********
@Andreas ********
people who don't understand the law
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Andreas *********
@Stephen *******
I explained the legal way. I can't vote for people who propose the use of agents to circumnavigate around the financial requirements for a Non-O visa and the subsequent extension. Just tell me WHERE in my posts I recommended anything irregular
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@Andreas ********
I didn't see anything?
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Ian ********
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@Andreas ********
so i could go with agent for two years then as long as ive been transfering 65k i can use that method . And get out of the agents hands
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Chris *******
@Ian *******
NO!

until you actually have a year that you have had the 800k requirements yourself you will need an agent.

It all starts with 800k.
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Ian ********
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@Chris ******
i said above after 2 years
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Andreas *********
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I guess you missed Ron Duke's comment. As soon as he has accumulated the 12 consecutive months of 65.000.- THB transfers (and this will be some time during the second "agent-year") all he needs to do is exit Thailand without a re-entry permit. This will kick the agent from the plate. By this he will invalidate the current "1-year extended stay permit". And once he re-enters Thailand "visa-exempt", he gets stamped in for 60 days. He can then immidiately apply for the "change of visa type" from the "exempt entry" to the "90-days Non-imm-O retirement visa" all by himself, using the bank statement proof of income of 12 months transfers. This application costs a 2000.- THB fee and he can theoretically do it by himself.
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Ian ********
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@Andreas ********
thank you so much that was the abswer i needed. I was hoping this the case . Leave after 2 years of having an agent makes sense .
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@Andreas ********
they will only accept 800k first without embassy endorsed income.

Then the 12 months begins for transfers.
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Andreas *********
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you quoted correctly: he will be trapped in the agent's wheel unless at some point he invalidates his Extension of Stay by exiting Thailand without a re-entry permit. Only then he can start from scratch. And if he at this point has accumulated the 12 months transfers, he can do it all by himself
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that is where you are wrong. They will not accept anything but embassy endorsed income for the first year.

It doesn't matter if he already had 12 months of transfers.

This is why people get trapped.

At some point they have to have the 800k first.

UNLESS their embassy will income certify.

From here believe what you want.
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Andreas *********
@Chris ******
I wrote exactly the same. Maybe you misunderstood me.
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Andreas *********
@Chris ******
yeah but if he used the agent, he never fulfilled the requirements of keeping the 800K for 3 months and rest of year never under 400K, thus invalidating his past extension. In this situation he will need the agent, again, who bribes Immigration to ignore that the guy theoretically was in a 9- month overstay (since he never had 800K 3 months after being issued the Extension)
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@Ian *******
yes, that's how it will work
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Ian ********
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Nimal *************
I went to few banks in Chiang Mai to open an account and I was informed that I should enter Thailand on a Non O Visa if I need to open a bank account.

Then I went to Thai Consulate in Sydney to apply for a Non O Visa and they informed me that I must have a bank account to apply for a Non O Visa?

I’m confused???
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Andreas Mueller Thanks. I live in Cairns and do not have time to go to Thai Consulate in Sydney as I’ll be leaving for CM on 22nd. This time I’ll be happy with 2months on arrival + 1 month extension. Thanks again!!!
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you got the wires crossed a bit! For the application to the 90-days Non-O visa in Sydney, you need a bank account with a minimum of 800.000.- THB or equivalent in AUD on it, the account can be in Australia! However for the application to the "1-year extension of stay", the 800.000.- THB need to be on a Thai bank account in your sole name
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Vinay ********
If you're willing to travel to Hua Hin, I know a very reliable and honest agent that will do it for you. 2,000 baht is her charge. Pay after you get the account so there is little risk
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Ian ********
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@Vinay *******
does it matter i live on bangkok . And get an accpu t somewere else
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Kirsten *********
@Ian *******
after you get the account and use it you can change the branch
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I have not tried that yet but since Hua Hin is where I want to finally settle I don't mind but it may be different for you. Honestly I just don't know. I was just glad to get an account and because of the app facility I don't think it matters much
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Ron ******
Reading your info and assuming you are in Thailand and want to stay there the easiest solution would be to use an agent for first year, get your 800k sorted to use next year, leave without reentry permit to get off that 'agent' job, turn around come back in visa exempt, apply for Non Imm O in country. You've got the bank account with 800k in it now, you'll need to use that for the first year, then for following years you can use the 65k monthly transfers to meet bank requirements. Don't think you're stuck with an agent forever but given your situation that might be the way to go.
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I had to use a agent for the same reasons no bank account no retirement visa ,, now I’m coming up to my renewal in December here in Buriram I’ve done the minimum
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b every month , my 1st was done in Pattaya will this give me problems ????
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you still have to have 800,000 in your bank account for 3 months after your previous extension and your bank account can never drop below 400,000 until you actually switch to the monthly transfers. Those were the requirements for your previous extension so if you don't meet them then you're not eligible for your next extension.
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I’ve done the over 65k and still doing this every month , don’t need the 800k , all I’m asking is will I have to go back to Pattaya as the agent opened my Bank account there ,,, or can I just go to my Buriram office
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Andreas *********
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well explained by Brandon. That's how you get stuck with an agent even in the second year. The "leave without a re-entry permit" method Ron Duke described only works at the end of the second year, only AFTER you have accumulated the 12 months consecutive bank transfers coming in from abroad.
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@Andreas ********
Why would you be reliant on an agent for a second year if you exit/re-enter Thailand and start afresh with a NEW visa application? The example you refer to is based on the applicant remaining in Thailand.
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You are misunderstanding me. I agreed with you when you wrote that one can escape the "agent wheel" when he exits Thailand without using a re-entry permit, during the second year of an extension of stay. You have described the correct method, and I have been explaining it further
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I'm telling you that if the agent got you an extension last year, the requirement for your extension LAST YEAR was that you keep your bank account at 800,000 for 3 months and it can never drop below 400,000. When you go to immigration this year for an extension, they will ask you for 12 months of bank statements to make sure you met the requirements for LAST YEAR'S extension. If you did not, it doesn't matter what you did with your bank account, you will be denied an extension for failing to meet last year's requirements. Then you'll have to use an agent again for failing to meet requirements. Transferring money into your bank account doesn't mean anything because last year you didn't meet the requirements so your extension from last year is effectively void.
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James **********
@Brandon ***********
no I won’t need to use a agent just saying
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James **********
@Chris ******
I won’t need a agent there’s other options not just agent’s
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Chris *******
By your own account you do

not have the 800k and will not be able to qualify on your own.

You will.have to pay to get an agent to help with bank account.

Then you will need an agent to fix your 800k issue.

You will be trapped on the agent wheel.

The UK embassies do not endorse income, so you cannot use that method to get your visa.

To qualify you will need the 800k the first year and simultaneously deposit 65k per month for 12 months without fail to qualify the 2nd year for income method.

If you use an agent you will not qualify for the 2nd year as you did not have the money in the first place.

So will use an agent, again and again.
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Ian ********
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@Chris ******
could i not deposit 65k for 12 months then do it myself next year
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no as you did not have the 800k originally.

You must have :

800k 2 mths before application

800k 3 mths after approval

400k all year NEVER below.

You will not be able to prove that.

This is how you get stuck with an agent
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Ian ********
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@Chris ******
i see thank you
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Chris *******
@Ian *******
beg, borrow or steal 800k for a year, get the income extension.

Then pay whoever back the funds.

Line of credit, whatever.

Best of luck.
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Michael ***********
@Chris ******
steal? Maybe not the best advice. Lol. But I think I smell sarcasm. 😆
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Ann ************
I tried to do it for ed but as i was over 50 could not

I got the 12 month retirement visa
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Phil ******
@Ian *******
Agents in Pattaya start @฿4,200 for a Bangkok bank account. That will make everything easier. Once everythings completed shift the account up to your home province at ฿400,000 per transfer.

Good luck.
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Phil *******
very easy to open bank account using an agent
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Stephen ********
@Phil ******
very easy to open Thai bank account online. Why use an agent?
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Dan *******
Agents used to be able to open a bank account up for-I’m not sure if this has changed or how much it would costs. Hopefully this is still an option for you and someone can recommend a reliable agent
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Brandon ************
Just find an agent to open the bank account. You don't need them to do the 800,000 as well, just the bank account. You can do the rest.

Most banks will not open accounts for ED visa, so that's not an option either. Or you go to a Thai embassy outside of Thailand and apply for the non-O retirement visa, which is what you should have done from the beginning.
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David ********
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my mate got a bank account from ED visa ... not sure where you get your information from.
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Brandon ************
@David *******
My information is from multiple people posting in this exact group saying the banks will not do it for them since 2-3 months ago.
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Bob *********
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your information is incorrect. I am currently on a Ed Visa and was able to obtain a Thai bank account with a debit card. it wasn't easy as the first two Banks said no only University degree qualifies but there are banks out there that will give you just have to do the work and find them.
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Just like there are banks out there that will do it for people on a tourist visa. But it's so difficult it's not worth the time.
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Bob *********
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it was worth my time
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Ian ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
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law has changed over a mo th ago
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Neil ******
@Ian *******
there is no law on banking and immigration status. It doesn’t make sense for a bank to go through all the administrative work to open an account for a transient.
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John ********
@Neil *****
amazing how people just make things up
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Neil ******
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Thailand seems to be the country for people who make shit up. The stuff I see on the regular is mind numbing.
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John ********
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what law? Nothing changed
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just an aside,had no problem opening an account in chiang mai on an ed visa. First bank I tried had an account opened in 30 mins, just tm30, COR and letter from the school. I understand everywhere's different.
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