How can I change my O-A visa to an O visa while in Thailand?

January 31, 2020
5 years ago
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Changing an O-A VISA and/or extension of stay from an O-A visa to an O visa.

Sorry to burst your balloon or piss on your parade BUT there is NO way to go from either an O-A visa or a yearly extension off an O-A visa to an O visa inside the country without leaving ONCE..

Think of an O-A visa and the first link in a chain and the yearly extensions as other links connected to it. In order to switch to a Non-Immigrant Type O visa <- (the type that does NOT require health insurance) you need to "break the chain" of extensions leading back to the original O-A visa.

You might as well get the two years of stay out of the O-A visa like most people do, THEN you need to exit the country without a re-entry permit during that second year.

Now FIRST you have to check with your immigration office as far as if they will issue in country 90 day Non-Immigrant Type O visas (not every immigration office can do it) AND you need to see how long the application for the Non-O visa goes under consideration (most offices are 14 days but some are 21, meaning you need at least that amount of time on your current entry stamp to pull it off). The cost of an in country 90 day Non-Immigrant visa is 2000baht. They are sold as NO ENTRY <- meaning there isn't a single or multiple entry with it because you're already IN thailand.

Assuming you went to the immigration office and found out they DO in country conversions AND that you do meet the financial and documentation requirements to apply for it;

You can go to a border bounce out and back to get a 30 day visa exempt entry OR you can go to a thai consulate and get a single entry tourist visa OR you can get a 90 day non-O visa <- if you can find a consulate that will sell one to you.

Once you have either a 30 day visa exempt entry stamp OR a 60 day tourist visa entry stamp go immediately back to your immigration office with the required documentation (bank letter, TM30 receipt, lease, copies etc) and apply for the 90 day non-O visa based on being over 50 (retirement). It will go under consideration for how ever many days that office requires then you go back and get the Non-O visa inked in with a USED stamp on it (seeing as you are already here) and you get a new 90 day entry stamp (dated from the date you applied for the Non-O).

Then you just wait until you have the required time left on that new 90 day stamp and apply for a year extension of stay like normal by meeting the requirements.

NOTE: IF you apply for the in country 90 day Non-O visa and need to leave the country you WILL need a re-entry permit to keep your current entry stamp 'alive' AND you would need to be back before the under consideration period runs out.

That is the ONLY ways to go from an O-A visa or extension to first a Non-O visa and then to a yearly extension.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
To change from an O-A visa to a Non-Immigrant Type O visa in Thailand, you must leave the country first, as there's no in-country conversion. After obtaining your O-A visa and making the necessary extensions, you should exit Thailand without a re-entry permit during your second year. Upon returning, you can apply for either a 30-day visa exemption or a tourist visa. Check with local immigration regarding their ability to issue in-country 90-day Non-O visas and ensure you meet financial and documentation requirements. Once you have the necessary entry stamp, apply for your Non-O visa, which should lead to a yearly extension as long as you continue meeting the requirements.
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Graeme **********
Well written and great info. Thanks for your effort
Graeme **********
Thanks. It’s all becoming clearer
Andy **********
Check the rules in phuket, it's much different here
Tod *********
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AFAIK that is not true at all,

just had a person get a 90 day Non-O visa from Phuket from a 30 day visa exempt entry stamp.

The only difference was the "under consideration" time the application went thru.

He was on a yearly extension from an original O-A visa.

He went to the immigration office had them cancel his valid re-entry permit. He bounced out and back at the Ranong border with Burma to get a 30 day visa exempt entry. He went right to the immigration office with his documentation, the bank letter, his bank book etc and applied for an in country Non-O visa for 2000 baht. He waited the "under consideration" period and went back and they inked a Non-O visa and a new 90 day entry stamp into his passport. Now he's just waiting until he has 45 days or less left on this new 90 day stamp so he can go apply for the year extension
Tod *********
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@Graeme *********
this is how you go from an O-A visa/extension to a 90 day O visa then a yearly extension..
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