How Can I Change My O-A Visa to an O Visa While In Thailand?

Nov 26, 2019
5 years ago
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
POSSIBLE USEFUL INFO:

Changing an O-A VISA and/or extension of stay from an O-A visa to an O visa.

Sorry to burst your balloon or piss on your parade BUT there is NO way to go from either an O-A visa or a yearly extension off an O-A visa to an O visa inside the country without leaving ONCE..

Think of an O-A visa and the first link in a chain and the yearly extensions as other links connected to it. In order to switch to a Non-Immigrant Type O visa <- (the type that does NOT require health insurance) you need to "break the chain" of extensions leading back to the original O-A visa.

You might as well get the two years of stay out of the O-A visa like most people do, THEN you need to exit the country without a re-entry permit during that second year.

Now FIRST you have to check with your immigration office as far as if they will issue in country 90 day Non-Immigrant Type O visas (not every immigration office can do it) AND you need to see how long the application for the Non-O visa goes under consideration (most offices are 14 days but some are 21, meaning you need at least that amount of time on your current entry stamp to pull it off). The cost of an in country 90 day Non-Immigrant visa is 2000baht. They are sold as NO ENTRY <- meaning there isn't a single or multiple entry with it because you're already IN thailand.

Assuming you went to the immigration office and found out they DO in country conversions AND that you do meet the financial and documentation requirements to apply for it;

You can go to a border bounce out and back to get a 30 day visa exempt entry OR you can go to a thai consulate and get a single entry tourist visa OR you can get a 90 day non-O visa <- if you can find a consulate that will sell one to you.

Once you have either a 30 day visa exempt entry stamp OR a 60 day tourist visa entry stamp go immediately back to your immigration office with the required documentation (bank letter, TM30 receipt, lease, copies etc) and apply for the 90 day non-O visa based on being over 50 (retirement). It will go under consideration for how ever many days that office requires then you go back and get the Non-O visa inked in with a USED stamp on it (seeing as you are already here) and you get a new 90 day entry stamp (dated from the date you applied for the Non-O).

Then you just wait until you have the required time left on that new 90 day stamp and apply for a year extension of stay like normal by meeting the requirements.

NOTE: IF you apply for the in country 90 day Non-O visa and need to leave the country you WILL need a re-entry permit to keep your current entry stamp 'alive' AND you would need to be back before the under consideration period runs out.

That is the ONLY ways to go from an O-A visa or extension to first a Non-O visa and then to a yearly extension.

I'll keep this commenting open BUT stay ON Topic.

First person that high-jacks this thread for something unrelated gets booted and blocked.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
To switch from an O-A visa or its extension to a Non-Immigrant O visa while in Thailand, you must first exit the country, effectively 'breaking the chain' of your O-A visa's yearly extensions. You can then obtain a new entry via several options such as a visa-exempt entry or a tourist visa. After re-entering, you must apply for the 90-day Non-O visa at your local immigration office with proper documentation and depending on their processing times, you will receive the required extension thereafter.
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Jack ***********
Thanks Todd. Very helpful & detailed summary
Ian ***********
Anyone got information on Chachoengsao immigration office ?
Ian ***********
Thx for your CLEAR information.
Shawn *****
Is there anyone to have It done at Samutprakan immigration?
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
while there is no rule against converting a 30 day visa exempt or 60 day tourist visa to a 90 day Non-O visa in country NOT every office can/will do it. Your best bet is to GO to Samut Prakan Immigration office and see if they can do it, what they "under consideration period is (so you know how many days you need on your entry stamp) and go from there.
Bill *********
@Tod ********
do you know if Udon Thani does the in country Non O please ?
Bill *********
@Tod ********
will do thanks Tod 👍👍
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
I would say post in an Isaan or Udon related f/b group, because someone will know.

I believe they do, but I am not 100% sure. The thing is, IF they do it you need to get the hand out from them that outlines their requirements and time frame for doing it, SO you might as well just stop in there, check and if they do get the handout listing what you need.
Isac *******
Is it possible to do it at PHUKET Immigration ??
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
you mean get an in country 90 day Non-O visa?

Yes, but you need to go to that immigration office and ask what the requirements are.
Alan *************
Thank you Tod. This info is very valuable
Chris ******
Tod - brilliantly summarised - thankyou
Karen-Lee ***********
Following 🙏
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
This short (and more to the point) image might help some people get their heads around how to do the switch from an O-A visa/extension to a New Non-O inside the country
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Just had a friend pick up his brand new Non-O visa and new 90 day entry stamp from Chaengwattana today after "breaking the chain" from his O-A yearly extensions, getting a 30 day visa exempt entry and then applying for the in country Non-O.

In another month he'll be able to apply for a yearly extension wiithout needing to show proof of insurance (y)
Jennifer ******
We will be doing this next year. Hope all goes through OK in Phuket.
Mick *********
Great info.
Adam *********
Tod, great summation!
Al *****************
Ubon ratchathani city can do the conversion with 15 days.
Tom *****
I can confirm I entered around 3 years ago on a SETV and extended; After 60 days I converted in-country at Kanchanaburi for a 90 day non imm O based on being over 50, which I then extended for a year, and continue to do so. This was advice from Todd and turned out to be the best option for me..
Tom *****
I don't recall exactly but pretty sure it was much longer than 21 days. At the time you commented it was unusually long.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
do you know how long Kanchanaburi's under consideration period was when you applied for the Non-O visa? Was it 21 days?
Stephen ***********
Following, good info.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Bangkok does the conversion and requires a minimum if 15 days

Chiang Mai does the conversion and requires a minimum of 21 days

Jomtien was reported as doing them with a minimum of 15 days
Stuart *********
@Tod ********
as many expats live here too, do you or anyone else know if Phuket immigration does the conversion? Thanks
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Bobby *******
here you go (y) Hope it's understandable
Bobby ********
@Tod ********
. That's great. What would now be useful is if contributors can give advice on which embassies still issue O visas (based on being over 50), and which immigration offices allow conversion from 30-day exempt and TVs and the length of the under review period. This would then be a useful thread. Could I please request any comments DO NOT mention insurance. Please stay on topic
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