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Can I request reconsideration for my rejected DTV application in Hanoi?
DTV application rejected in Hanoi – no reason given. Can I request reconsideration?
Hi everyone, I’m looking for some advice regarding my DTV application and would really appreciate hearing from anyone who has experienced something similar.
I applied for a DTV through an agent (Issa Compass) in Vietnam. My application was submitted to the Thai Embassy in Hanoi on 25 August, after I had already left Thailand.
Today, my agent informed me that my application was rejected, but they said the Embassy did not provide any specific reason for the rejection.
What confuses me is that on the agent’s application tracking system, my application is still showing “The government processes your application” and has not been updated to “rejected” yet. I haven’t received any direct notification from the Embassy myself.
I also noticed that the Embassy has recently updated some DTV requirements, and I’m wondering whether I may be able to provide additional documents or clarification if something was missing or unclear.
Has anyone experienced a similar situation?
• Can a rejected DTV application be reconsidered if I’m willing to provide additional documents?
• Is there any way to find out the reason for the rejection?
• If reconsideration is not possible, can I apply again immediately, or is there a waiting period?
• If I reapply in Hanoi, would I have to pay the government visa fee again?
I’m really trying to understand what happened before submitting another application, as I don’t want to make the same mistake twice. Any advice or personal experience would be greatly appreciated. 🙏
Hi everyone, I’m looking for some advice regarding my DTV application and would really appreciate hearing from anyone who has experienced something similar.
I applied for a DTV through an agent (Issa Compass) in Vietnam. My application was submitted to the Thai Embassy in Hanoi on 25 August, after I had already left Thailand.
Today, my agent informed me that my application was rejected, but they said the Embassy did not provide any specific reason for the rejection.
What confuses me is that on the agent’s application tracking system, my application is still showing “The government processes your application” and has not been updated to “rejected” yet. I haven’t received any direct notification from the Embassy myself.
I also noticed that the Embassy has recently updated some DTV requirements, and I’m wondering whether I may be able to provide additional documents or clarification if something was missing or unclear.
Has anyone experienced a similar situation?
• Can a rejected DTV application be reconsidered if I’m willing to provide additional documents?
• Is there any way to find out the reason for the rejection?
• If reconsideration is not possible, can I apply again immediately, or is there a waiting period?
• If I reapply in Hanoi, would I have to pay the government visa fee again?
I’m really trying to understand what happened before submitting another application, as I don’t want to make the same mistake twice. Any advice or personal experience would be greatly appreciated. 🙏
Answer summary
The user's DTV application in Hanoi was rejected without reason. They seek advice on whether reconsideration is possible, how to find out the rejection reason, the possibility of reapplying immediately, and if fees would apply for a new application. Community responses clarify that there is no reconsideration for DTV applications, reasons for rejection are typically not provided, and applicants must reapply from their home country or permanent residence. They must also pay the visa fee again for a new application.
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viva_la_********
Maybe because of this,and they don't care if you started the application in advance
GoldCran*********
Ask the questions to your next visa agent before you pay them a penny.
Jay ******************
Have you any records (emails, Messenger etc) about the 'lot of back and forth from the beginning about where you should apply'? Issa Compass had a 100% money back guarantee (embassy fee plus their service fee) or a choice of one free further submission on vetted applications submitted prior to 31st August. From 31st August they guarantee a choice of either refund of their service fee (not embassy fee) or one free resubmission. We need to view the exact advice they provided, the dates and specifically what they said about their guarantee.
Erik *********
Thai government wants to cut soft power DTV.
Welsh******
I used Siam Legal. All good. 👍🏻
Yay***
Yes
Michael ********
Lol 😂
Charming*********
Tell them you want access to the evisa portal
At least then you can check what was or wasn’t submitted and if any mistakes were made
At least then you can check what was or wasn’t submitted and if any mistakes were made
TheBatman**********
Do you have the sufficient funds?
Do you have a criminal record?
Do you have the correct no of months of soft power skills or remote work?
Finally, if you're a Vietnamese, why do you want to live in Thailand? Genuine question.
Do you have a criminal record?
Do you have the correct no of months of soft power skills or remote work?
Finally, if you're a Vietnamese, why do you want to live in Thailand? Genuine question.
Samuel *******
For a DTV. Is it true you need to have at least 10k GBP in your account end of each month for the past 6 months?
Anonymous ******************
Hire an agency do it for you!
Anonymous ******************
There is probably some documents she is missing out.
Greg ********
Anonymous participant 800 she did hire an agency, and it's explicit in her posts. She hired Issa Compass.
Михайло ********
Анонімний учасник 800 only white listed! Not black 🔥listed agency 🔥
Sam *********
They paid $5 with Claude tokens it's updated manually if they even know how.
Will ************
Always do comprehensive research on the company and directors acting for you before engaging them to act for you.
Henrik *****
If you have did a proper research before applying ( including reading previous posts in this group, and following the group), you would have known, that no reason will be given in case of rejection, application fee is non-refundable and also answers to the rest of issues that has surprised you.
So do a proper research before applying.
So do a proper research before applying.
Shaquanna ********
i’m in process with issa compass now i’m in usa trying to get thialand dtv visa myself
Jay ******************
@Shaquanna *******
Thank you for your information. I'm guessing that if you applied prior to 31st August you've had no 'back and forth' communications or last minute reversal about where you should apply?
Richard ******
Its a very quick denial. They made a mistake. I applied on the 20th and still waiting in HCMC
Jay ******************
@Richard *****
Agree Richard. There are 'discrepancies'.
Graham ******
Sounds like a scam to get more money out of you if they don't show you the official eVisa dashboard with your visa status
Anonymous ******************
Graham Seal Same as US visa
Cragus *******
If you are Vietnamese then consider applying from HCMC so it is a different embassy, but still in your home country.
I would avoid agents and do it yourself. You must be extremely thorough with the application.
I was recently approved in Hanoi. If it is a workcation DTV then I am happy to help you with it based on my own experiences, if you like. Fee free to reach out (I am not an agent or asking for anything in return, but a remote worker who was approved for the DTV workcation 2 weeks ago). I am not experienced with soft power applications so would not be much use if it's soft power.
I would avoid agents and do it yourself. You must be extremely thorough with the application.
I was recently approved in Hanoi. If it is a workcation DTV then I am happy to help you with it based on my own experiences, if you like. Fee free to reach out (I am not an agent or asking for anything in return, but a remote worker who was approved for the DTV workcation 2 weeks ago). I am not experienced with soft power applications so would not be much use if it's soft power.
Leevi ***********
Visa agency scam......
Renata *******
Did they promise a refund in case of rejection?
SolidK*******
OP@Renata ******
Za Fixer No, unfortunately they won’t refund me. They actually suggested Laos because they said Hanoi has a higher rejection rate, but there was a lot of back and forth from the beginning about where I should apply. At first they suggested Hanoi/Saigon, then after I explained that my permanent residence is in Lam Dong, they said Hanoi was the correct jurisdiction. I had already booked my flight to Vietnam based on that plan, and later they suggested Laos instead. I didn’t agree because the plan had already been changed twice, so I decided to stick with Hanoi as originally planned. They told me the fee wouldn’t be refundable if I chose Hanoi. 😭As I explained, they don’t!
Jay *****
SolidKiwi3260 this is why it's pointless to use an agent for this
Renata *******
SolidKiwi3260 Saigon had a much higher rejection rate...I'm sorry! Was it workation or soft power?
John **********
Given you're a Vietnamese citizen you can apply again but nothing you can do about a rejected application. For what reason did you apply?
If you try again do it yourself
If you try again do it yourself
SolidK*******
OPI’m applied with soft power category
John **********
SolidKiwi3260 how did you show how you would support yourself during the validity of the visa? If they suspect you will work in Thailand you'll get rejected
John **********
SolidKiwi3260 there's your problem
SolidK*******
OP@John *********
My agent prepared everything :( so Idk 🥹SolidK*******
OP@John *********
What do you mean about “ What reason did u apply “ !?John **********
SolidKiwi3260 there are 3 reasons you can apply for a DTV
1. Workation if you will work remotely from Thailand
2. If you will follow a Soft Power activity
3. As a dependant of someone else who has a DTV
1. Workation if you will work remotely from Thailand
2. If you will follow a Soft Power activity
3. As a dependant of someone else who has a DTV
ZestyRei*********
I find it hard to believe that Issa has any more insights about your visa application you would have if you applied by yourself. They probably just update it manually for your convenience, and they probably don't even have an option to do it on their website.
Daniel ***********
If thailand tells you no, you need to go to your home country and redo, but an agents word means very little
Winston ************
The agent's "tracking system" means absolutely nothing. It was probably vide coded.
Anonymous ******************
Do you hold a vietnam passport? If not, go home and apply from there
SolidK*******
OPAnonymous participant 400 I am a Vietnamese citizen and my place of residence is in Lam Dong, which falls under the jurisdiction of Hanoi. I applied in Hanoi and was rejected without explanation.
Elías ********
Apply again by yourself, not using an agent.
Kellie *******
do Issa Compass not have a money back guarantee?
Michael ********
@Kellie ******
the worst agency
GiftedGrap**********
@Kellie ******
tons of shady conditions on that one, not a fanSolidK*******
OP@Kellie ******
No, they don’t!
Anonymous ******************
SolidKiwi3260 they do
Elías ********
All decisions are final. No refunds given.
A. ************
There is no pathway for reconsideration and they rarely provide their reasoning. Which sucks because it leaves people like you in the dark and unable to fix what they can when they apply again...or to decide if it is even worth trying again because they can't fix the rejection issue.
Also, with the new rules, you are now going to have to return to your home country, or the country you have PERMANENT RESIDENT status in, to apply. You will now have to provide a criminal background check.
Also, with the new rules, you are now going to have to return to your home country, or the country you have PERMANENT RESIDENT status in, to apply. You will now have to provide a criminal background check.
Greg ********
• Can a rejected DTV application be reconsidered if I’m willing to provide additional documents?
NO
• Is there any way to find out the reason for the rejection?
NO
• If reconsideration is not possible, can I apply again immediately, or is there a waiting period?
YES - home country or where you have PR etc
• If I reapply in Hanoi, would I have to pay the government visa fee again?
Unless you have long term residence or are Viet you cannot apply in Vietnam
NO
• Is there any way to find out the reason for the rejection?
NO
• If reconsideration is not possible, can I apply again immediately, or is there a waiting period?
YES - home country or where you have PR etc
• If I reapply in Hanoi, would I have to pay the government visa fee again?
Unless you have long term residence or are Viet you cannot apply in Vietnam
SolidK*******
OPI applied under the Soft Power route, for a 9-month Thai cooking course at Bangkok Thai Cooking, which is a partner school of Issa. The course is specifically the one recommended by the agency for the DTV application. And all the documents and the application itself were submitted by the agency on my behalf, not through my own e-Visa account.
That’s also why I’m trying to understand what happened, because I was never contacted to provide any additional documents or clarification during the process.
That’s also why I’m trying to understand what happened, because I was never contacted to provide any additional documents or clarification during the process.
Jay ******************
Anonymous participant 950 'Assumption and speculation' is correct. Add a belief in the intentions of the Thai government and that you are privy to the numbers of workcation versus soft power DTVs approved. Why suggest an alternative visa? Have you some sort of grudge against DTV holders?
Anonymous ******************
@Jay *****************
you need a life jay jay. Do not get your panties in a bunch over fb comments. It’s not that deep 😘 I hope the dude applies and successfully gets it, that’s all that matters to me.Jay ******************
Anonymous participant 950 I'm sure you are all for DTVs and especially for soft power applicants. What you failed to explain is how you know that more workcation than soft power DTVs are being issued at the moment? If that is true it could be due to less soft power applications being made or more soft power applications being cancelled/rejected. Or, possibly both?
Anonymous ******************
@Jay *****************
relax buddy, I’m all for soft power. I’d rather everyone get approved for dtv Just making sure he knows that’s an option as well. You said I’m correct so tf you doing commenting back.SolidK*******
OP@Greg *******
Just to clarify my situation, I’m Vietnamese and this was my first time applying for a DTV. I applied in Vietnam, my home country and the country where I was born, and my application was still rejected without any specific reason given. So I’m honestly quite confused about what might have gone wrong :(Greg ********
SolidKiwi3260 Unfortunately, they never give any indication why an application was rejected. Ask the agency used if they have any ideas on what it could be. Were you applying soft power or workation? How long was the soft power course if it was that route? Did you submit the application under your own account, or did the agency submit it for you under their account?
DedicatedC***********
What DTV did you apply for?
SolidK*******
OPDedicatedCapybara4236 Soft Power category
Knowledgeabl************
You just need to call them and tell them you are ENTITLED to the visa
Michael ********
KnowledgeableRaccoon5198 entitled and worthy
Eugene *****
KnowledgeableRaccoon5198 entitled? Even Thai citizens don’t have such entitlement.
Knowledgeabl************
Never seen sarcasm before?
Greg ********
This looks like Issa Compass's own tracking system and update it manually. It won't be linked to the embassy. There is no reconsideration. Now you will need to apply in your home country or somewhere where you have long-term residence.
SolidK*******
OP@Greg *******
I’m a Vietnamese citizen
Andy *****
SolidKiwi3260 just a question for my understanding: why did you apply through an agency in the first place? You are a Vietnamese citizen and speak the language of the embassy.
Did you apply for soft power or remote work?
If they don't provide a money back guarantee, why choose them?
Did you apply for soft power or remote work?
If they don't provide a money back guarantee, why choose them?
Greg ********
SolidKiwi3260 oh, you can reapply then in Vietnam, no problem. Need to pay the fee again then. Good luck this time.
Mark *********
Never use an agent to fill in a simple form
Sabrina *******
I think the only option is to reapply, given the new requirements you'll have to return back to your country or permanent residence to reapply. Additionally, you also have to provide a criminal record check.
Brandon ************
You cannot apply again in Hanoi unless you're a permanent resident of Vietnam. The new requirement is that you can only apply from your country of citizenship or permanent residence.
Anonymous ******************
@Brandon ***********
not 100% correct. Temporary residence is also accepted as we have seen today from an official embassy email.
Semi **********
Anonymous participant 831 what do you mean by temporary residence
SolidK*******
OP@Brandon ***********
I’m a Vietnamese citizenBrandon ************
SolidKiwi3260 that makes everything even more odd! I'd definitely be asking the agent for access to the e-visa portal so you can look at yourself
Za *******
You cannot request reconsideration, but you can apply again, probably in your home country.Did the agency refund all your money?
Empatheti**********
@Za ******
they won’t 😂😂😂Za *******
EmpatheticOtter8595 I was asking because that old troll Christpher Kilcourse is actively promoting Issa Compas saying they they even refund the application fee if you get rejected and advising everyone to apply using their services. I guess he is working for them or something
SolidK*******
OP@Za ******
No, unfortunately they won’t refund me. They actually suggested Laos because they said Hanoi has a higher rejection rate, but there was a lot of back and forth from the beginning about where I should apply. At first they suggested Hanoi/Saigon, then after I explained that my permanent residence is in Lam Dong, they said Hanoi was the correct jurisdiction. I had already booked my flight to Vietnam based on that plan, and later they suggested Laos instead. I didn’t agree because the plan had already been changed twice, so I decided to stick with Hanoi as originally planned. They told me the fee wouldn’t be refundable if I chose Hanoi. 😭Michael ********
SolidKiwi3260 tell us what agent to us can avoid them
Michael ********
@Za ******
idk why some people advice them, they are horrible agencyZa *******
@Michael *******
Issa Compass
Maria *************
SolidKiwi3260 the so called agent you decided to use and using an agent was your mistake, your agent is also giving you false information by suggesting "try again in Laod (but we keep all the money you paid us for the service we didnt provide you) since you cant apply for a DTV in a country you are not a resident in
Renata *******
SolidKiwi3260 if they told in advance that there was no refund if you applied in Hanoi, I would have taken the piss and flew to Laos.
GiftedGrap**********
SolidKiwi3260 this is truly crap. They shoudl be upfront about the plan ahead of the application so flights etc can be properly planned. Their whole ‘well then the money back guarantee doesnt cover it’ is total BS imho
Anonymous ******************
No one really knows. The embassy can approve and reject at their discretion and it’s only recently that a new policy and application rules have been implemented. Your previous application would NOT be approved under the new rules.
Kerem ******
Wait Bro i have the same !!
DedicatedC***********
@Kerem *****
What do you mean the same?Kerem ******
DedicatedCapybara4236 Display Bro same dtv wait time process
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