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Can I apply for a Thai e-visa while visiting Canada on a US passport but using a Brazilian passport?

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Nov 5, 2024

a year ago

Sean ****

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Hi all, I'm trying to get an e-visa (Non-Imm O/retirement) for Thailand. I have Brazilian and US passports and am applying with my Brazilian. 

The problem is that I'm currently visiting family in Canada and will fly from Vancouver to Bangkok. My understanding from reading old posts here is that one must apply for an e-visa from the country from which you'll be flying to Thailand, which is why I chose Canada instead of the US. 

I don't have a Canadian visa because I entered on my American passport. The application wanted proof that I'm in Canada, for which I uploaded my air ticket from Vancouver to Thailand. I also uploaded my Thai bank statement, which shows the required 800k baht. 

Unfortunately, the Thai embassy replied with:

  * Other request documents: Please upload a Canada PR card, visa or permit

  * Financial evidence showing monthly income of no less than 65,000 THB or having the current balance of 800,000 THB, e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings: Please upload a bank statement with your name showing a monthly income of no less than 2,600 CAD or a current balance of 32,000 CAD

They seem to think I live in Canada and are not allowing for me to just be passing through.  They also ignored my Thai bank account. 

My questions: can I get an e-visa from a country I'm not resident in? If not, can I reapply from the USA and still fly to Thailand from Canada?  And what's the problem with showing the 800k in my Thai bank account?

Thanks for any advice!

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TLDR : Answer Summary

The user is seeking advice on applying for a Non-Immigrant O (retirement) e-visa for Thailand while in Canada with a Brazilian passport, despite having entered Canada on a US passport. They encountered issues with the Thai embassy requiring proof of residence in Canada, which the user cannot provide. The community provides various suggestions, including reapplying for the visa in the US, entering Thailand on a tourist visa and converting to a Non-O visa, and concerns regarding documentation requirements.

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Rich ********

Just get a tourist Visa for Thailand in your US Passport. When you get to Thailand you can go to Immigration and convert over to the Non-O.

a year ago

Colin *********

From everything I've read in these groups, you need to prove with documents, such as Drivers License, Utilities Bill, that you are in the location where currently staying. I don't know what documentation you get when entering Canada on a USA Passport (maybe a stamp in the passport just the same as entering Thailand on a Visa Exempt entry?). I think your problem is trying to use your Brazilian Passport in Canada for the application while not being able to provide documents that prove you're in Canada at the moment. Maybe you need to return to the USA and apply from there, if you have documents that show you normally reside there. Otherwise, as

@Tod ********

said, go to Thailand from Canada Visa Exempt and apply for the Non-O at the nearest Immigration Office to where you will live in Thailand. If you don't have a bank account in Thailand already, that will be more difficult an issue if entering as a tourist, where it's a lot easier if you enter the country already having the Non-O Visa.

a year ago

Dca *****

Personally, I think you should just stick to the "KISS" principle: "Keep it Simple, stupid" and just use your USA passport while inside the USA to apply for a Thai Visa with the Thai Embassy or Thai Consulate in America. This will be a Thai e-Visa if inside the USA.

Also, something outside the topics of Thai Visas or Thai Immigration, but if you decide to use your Brazilian Passport, you will find that any potential "advantage" of 90 days Bilateral Visa Exemption (ผ. 90) entry into Thailand, probably do not outweigh the potential several disadvantages that one may encounter, such as: any Brazilian documents in Portuguese have to be translated to English, there isn't a Brazilian Embassy/Consulate in every country across Asia, many other Asian countries require Visas for Brazilian passports (in comparison to USA passports), etc. etc.

a year ago

Guenter ********

Great Tod. Like always.

a year ago

Tod *********

Wow, that's sure a convoluted story 😮

So you entered canada on your US passport but you want to apply for the visa to thailand on your brazilian one (that doesn't show you ENTERED canada) via the eVisa system?

You just show an itinerary that you're flying to thailand from the country where you apply for the eVisa

I think the issue is that proof you're in canada isn't an air ticket from Vancouver to Thailand 🙁

I got no idea why they wouldn't take the Thai bank account, I'd just re-upload that bank statement again

I also have no idea how you're going to prove you're in canada on your US passport while applying for the eVisa on the Brazilian one 😕 that is a conundrum

As far as using the eVisa system, thru a consulate in the US, you'd need to be IN the US to use the eVisa system and apply at the appropriate consulate depending on what state you reside in.

Worst case just come to thailand free stamp entry on the passport you want to get the "retirement visa" on.

You say that's the Brazilian one, so you'd get stamped in for 90 days and then apply for the in country Non-O visa for 2000baht at the immigration office where you stay, then 2 months later apply for the year extension for 1900baht at the same office

a year ago

Sean ****

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I know it's a complicated story, lol. 😅 Where they asked me to upload proof of being in Canada I just sent them a long-winded letter explaining it all, and right away they sent me an approval letter, bless them. 🥳

a year ago

Tod *********

@Sean ***

wow, congratulations (y) really REALLY glad that worked out

Make sure you PRINT out that PDF file they emailed you (as it is your visa) and give it along with your passport to the officer when you stamp in.

Also check your passport when they hand it back to make sure you got stamped in Non-O for 90 days

That's one step in the "retirement visa" process out of the way (y) So you just apply for the year extension when you have 30 days or less left on the 90 day stamp they give you when you stamp in on that Non-O

Again congrats, well done (y) (y)

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