Can I apply for a Non-O visa in Thailand as an American if the requirements state I must have residence in the country where the application is submitted?

Jan 6, 2022
3 years ago
A.c. ***********
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Here's another language-interpretation issue. The Los Angeles Thai Consulate's website finally now has a live link and posted requirements for the Non-O visa. I've been advised by many people to enter on either a 6-day tourist visa or visa exempt, then apply for the Non-O once I'm in Thailand, later applying for the one-year extension based on retirement.

Here's the thing though—the number 3 item in the Non-O requirements on thaiconsulatela.org states:

3. Having the nationality of or residence in the country where applicant’s application is submitted.

This is confusing... if I go with the path to Non-O retirement that has been recommended to me, I'm going to be submitting the application in Thailand, but I'm American. Is that going to be a problem? Or does the "residence in" language simply mean that if I can show a rental agreement for a place I'm living in, for these purposes I would have "residence in" Thailand? Usually when the word "residence" or "resident" is used in an immigration law or policy context, it refers to legal permanent residency, so I just want to clarify this point. Thanks.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The user seeks clarification on applying for a Non-O visa while being an American, specifically regarding a requirement that states the applicant must have nationality or residence where the application is submitted. They are considering entering Thailand on a tourist visa and then applying for the Non-O visa, particularly for retirement. The main concern is whether having a rental agreement in Thailand would fulfill the 'residence' requirement, as they note that 'residence' could typically imply legal permanent residency.
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Robert *******
And here we go again:

IF you are abroad, meaning NOT in Thailand you apply for a Visa at the Thai Embassy, organized by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Thailand.

IF you are inside Thailand you may apply for a conversion of your Tourist visa into a Non Immigrant visa at the Royal Thai Police Immigration Bureau.

Two different organizations with different requirements.

BTW: a 6 day Tourist visa does not exist and retirement is just a short cut to type less, it should be being over 50 years of age and willing to sit out the rest of my life in Thailand. Retirement is not a requirement for this visa or extension.
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