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Are TINs or tax clearance receipts required for renewing Non-O visas for retired expats in Thailand?
Non O VisaVisa RenewalTax Identification Number (TIN)Retired ExpatsImmigration RequirementsThailand Immigration
Jan 13, 2025
a year ago
Bill **********
ORIGINAL POSTERIs there any information if TINs or tax clearance receipts are now required to renew Non O visas for retired expats ?
TLDR : Answer Summary
The consensus among recent comments is that TINs and tax clearance receipts are not currently required for renewing Non O visas for retired expats in Thailand. Several users have successfully renewed their visas without these documents, indicating that the previous concerns might be unfounded or based on misinformation.
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Pete *******
Impossible to link the requirements as you can live quite legally in Thailand without a TIN or ever filing a tax return.
Roberto *********
Nope. The usual internet bs. Buddy of mine got extension this morning, nothing said. Nothing to do with immigration
John **********
Why would there be? Plenty of people will legitimately have absolutely no requirement to get a TIN or file a tax return
Paul ***********
@John *********
Really you have a Thai Bank account.. ❓🤔This became a matter of CRS compliance in some countries to have and operate a bank account.
Getting a TIN and filing a tax return are two very different things 👍
Pete *******
@Paul **********
are you such a fuckwit that you cannot read Thai tax law for yourself? The Revenue Department publishes the tax law in English. You have no idea if I am an international tax professional or not. You have no idea if I studied law or not. Your statements are demonstrably incorrect. Again use your brain and read the tax law for yourself.Paul ***********
@Pete ******
I have.. So please go ahead and quote the relevant sections then if you like ❓The fact you are posturing and swearing at people rather than actually citing from the tax codes... Leads me to believe you not a lawyer, never studied law and the fact you use a term like "demonstrably" suggests you are a blagger
But please do ahead and cite those sections please 🤦
Pete *******
@Paul **********
certainly. Section 3 Undecim of the Revenue Code. Section 1.Paul ***********
@Pete ******
actually it Chapter 3 Part 1 is general Provisions under sections 38 and 39... 🤦Tax Residency definition is section 41
You didn't even get the section names correct and the wrong section cited .. 🤦
You are a blagger you just made it all up ... 🤣
Pete *******
@Paul **********
your silence on this matter speaks to your stupidity. My new year’s resolution was not to interact with fuckwits. Guess I failed.Pete *******
@Paul **********
are you stupid? Go again to the Revenue Code. Click on taxpayer identification. Section 3 Undecim or are you unfamiliar with Latin legal terminology?Reply to
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@Paul **********
just because you’re tax resident it doesn’t automatically follow that you require a TIN.Paul ***********
@Pete ******
and a Thai legal company appears to disagree with you, and even cites the tax code section*******************************************************************
%20per%20Section%2070%20of,for%20all%20taxpayers%20in%20Thailand.John **********
@Paul **********
tax payers, not tax residentsJohn **********
@Paul **********
you obviously don't read what I say. I have ZERO foreign income.Paul ***********
@John *********
and again 👇... It says nothing about a foreign income 🤦John **********
@Paul **********
they cite the situation for tax payers. Not a requirement for non tax payersPaul ***********
@John *********
go an argue with Isaan Lawyers.. I am just citing them... 🤦John **********
@Paul **********
happy toPaul ***********
@John *********
er go and read it again... Who needs a tax number.. 👇Paul ***********
@John *********
"especially if" 🤦.. Are you in Thailand more than 180 days ❓... You are tax resident....Pete *******
@Paul **********
you really are a special kind of stupid. You continue to quote bullshit websites. Quote Thai tax law as a source. Go to the Revenue Code and educate yourself.Paul ***********
@Pete ******
so are you a tax lawyer or even a lawyer.. ❓If not it's takes a special kind of stupid to argue with citations by a lawyer from the actual tax code 🤦
Where you study tax law ❓Dunning-Kruger U ❓🤣🤣
Paul ***********
@Pete ******
clearly you haven't read the tax code have 🤦...lsaan lawyers cites the exact articles 🤭Paul ***********
@Pete ******
it's lsaan lawyers website ... 🤦..The code sections are quoted princess..rebutt them if you must Rumpole of the Bailey 🤭
Paul ***********
@John *********
clearly you can't read... So once again 👇👇... Section 100 cited below.. Tax resident.. 180 plus in country.. 👇You can argue the toss all you like.. I would suggest you read the tax code 👍
Pete *******
@Paul **********
it’s badly written and misleading. Instead for a source use the actual tax law. Thai Revenue Department website and go to Tax Payer Identification.Paul ***********
@Pete ******
doesn't it ❓.. As mentioned from personal experience in other countries under CRS compliance they wanted tax number under threat of closing your bank account...Which is consistent with what this says 👇..
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@Paul **********
of course I do. But this year I will bring zero income into Thailand and I am retired so no income in Thailand eitherPaul ***********
@John *********
what about last year given the new interpretation of the remittance of overseas income started on 1st Jan 2023John **********
@Paul **********
it started 1st January 2024Paul ***********
@John *********
correct a typo on my part and tax year end 31 Dec 2024Reply to
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Peter *********
Done my non o last week not required 🙃
Graham ******
No, don't listen to the hype
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Sue **********
No
Paul ***********
Not yet
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