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Why is financial stability important for expats living in Thailand?

RadiantR*********
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Why so many questions about money on your account?

If not have enough money why stay here. Of course they want to know if you can support yourself in the future. Same in my homecountry. They don’t want to pay for hospital bills for emergency cost (just to make you stay alive) and don’t get paid for it.

You need at least 1,5 million Baht saved to have a decent life regardless what hospital insurance you have.

If not, life can be not as good as you think here in Thailand.

Maybe i am wrong, but I see “Farang” come here without savings and life can get really bad if you get sick or meet the wrong lady
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This discussion centers on the financial requirements for foreign retirees in Thailand, specifically the necessity of maintaining 800,000 Baht in a Thai bank account for visa eligibility. Contributors express their frustrations and agreements regarding the high amount needed, reflecting on how it compares to other countries' requirements and the local cost of living. Many participants share their insights on how this rule impacts their lives and the broader implications for expats, including issues of sustainability, health insurance costs, and the perception of 'farangs' (foreigners) in Thailand.
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James ******
James ******
I think the 800,000 is a good idea. If it was enforced properly instead of the in and out fiasco with certain agents it would certainly keep the riff raff out.
Leonard ***********************
Leonard ***********************
This is what I've discovered since I've been there, you can use an agency and not have to put up your money but I don't know how long it's going to last and you end up spending more money per year, or you can just bite the bullet and put your 400,000 or 800,000 Thai baht in the bank depending on if you're married or retirement, I probably shouldn't let the cat out of the bag but if you're in Bangkok and you use government hospitals there's one that I will not mention that's amazing you pay very little money if any and if you have a Thai spouse who is military, government teacher or nurse you're covered, also we are forgetting is after several years three I think it is you can get your pic ID or permanent residence card which a lot of the situations and requirements are not necessary, it takes time, and you can actually get health insurance pretty reasonable if you shop around
Mike *******
Mike *******
Sorry to say but mostly the foreigner that come to thailand are NOT the above average citizens in there own country. Mostly the low IQ , alcohol induced, foul mouthed, disrespectful people who made bad choices in life amd can’t afford to

Live in their own country. Thats why they go to the cheapest asian countries to live or even just get by financially there also.its sad
Angelo ***********
Angelo ***********
No idea what your post is about. If you want to live from 1.5M and have rent of 5k a month and plan to spent 20k for a living, you last 60 months ... which is 5 years.

Does not sound like a sound plan.

Considering that you probably fancy a 20k Condo instead and want to spent 40k a month ... you do not even last 2 years.

Simple math ... take a pocket calculator.
Brenton ******
Brenton ******
All you need is enough money to leave Thailand if you can't afford to look after yourself. What happens to you after that isn't a problem for Thailand. The 800,
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,000 baht thing is a cash grab. As of the latest reports, there are approximately 126,654 foreigners residing in Thailand on a retirement visa. Multiply that by 800,000 baht and there is 101,323,200,000 baht that the Thai government has brought into Thailand for them to use.
Paul *******
Paul *******
Whats it to do with you? I sent money as needed every month. I do not need to keep unnecessary money in my account here. I've survived 24 years here or am i doing something wrong.
Yo***
Yo***
simple, they can not live well in their country due to high prices and low income, or pension. They can not afford to dine in with their budget in their country. So they think in Thailand, with their low budget, they can live like King, because Thailand must be cheap. They think so. That is why they came to Thailand with such lower budget and want to live in Thailand like King. They expected that all Thais admire them as kings and serve them well. But the reality is totally different. Be served well is expensive in Thailand too. Living as king? much more expensive. So they can not afford too. That is why such farangs are big problem in Thailand. 🤣🤣🤣
Nick **********
Nick **********
1.5 million baht for the rest of your life?

If you pinch pennies that's maybe 3 yrs tops.
Yo***
Yo***
Nick Tiliakos one year 😂
Tim ***********
Tim ***********
Guys let's address the elephant in the room. The only time you can get YOUR hands on YOUR THB 800,000 is if you leave the country.
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
Tim Lievesley or, switch to another visa that doesn't require it. Technically you can get your hands on it a full year before you have to leave, it's just your next extension will be denied if you spent it.
Tim ***********
Tim ***********
Ivan McAvinchey Exactly what I said
Yo***
Yo***
Ivan McAvinchey Be aware of this. As bangkok bank already does, if you need bank statement for extension with your 800K Thb in the bank, Bangkok bank required to freeze your account for months. I do not think this will not happen to other banks too. I heard, some other Thai banks required similar to Bangkok bank. Not yet? but soon. [
Alistair *******
Alistair *******
Originally from Scotland, I lived in the USA for five and a half years, Sweden for two years and Ukraine for one year.

Thailand’s regulations are complicated, confusing, and are applied inconsistently depending on which Immigration Office, Immigration Officer, Thai Embassy or Thai Consulate General you are dealing with.

This is what makes it so challenging and incredibly frustrating.

It is also very sexist. A foreign woman marrying a Thai man does not have to meet any of the financial requirements that a foreign man marrying a Thai woman has to.

I find it ironic that successive Thai Governments talk about wanting to attract higher quality farang to Thailand - in other words they want to attract our money - yet they are making it increasingly difficult for us to settle in Thailand.

Vietnam is 30% to 35% cheaper and far more welcoming. If I wasn’t already married to a Thai woman, I would move there. The Vietnamese economy is growing at a rate of 8% per year, far higher than Thailand.
Narong *******
Narong *******
Alistair Grant Yes Very Boring too , Difficult to Find food unless you are in a Touristical place , No Big Supermarket only little convenient stores and Soup sellers after 7pm

Nobody Speaks any languages apart from Vietnamese and you must Write everything on yr google Translator even a simple phrase.

Also No Night life and People not very Friendly.

Yes Beer , Apartment , Hotels cheaper.

Overall for me Thailand Much much Better
Gordon ********
Gordon ********
You need 400k to prove that you can support your Thai wife. But if you have a joint account then 700k isn't enough. How's that logic adding up?
Wilian *************
Wilian *************
Gordon Workfb are u 400 k is enough?
Gordon ********
Gordon ********
Wilian San Miguel 400k for a year to live with a family? I dunno, man... probably you could but it wouldn't be easy.
Adrian *********
Adrian *********
Seems morre to be how much you will leave if you die!
Ken ************
Ken ************
Mind your own business and let people do what they want
David ********
David ********
For a foreigner to get any sort of medium term visa to visit New Zealand or Australia the need to show a very large amount of funds, a secure job in their home country, ideally with assets in their name in their home country, OR they need to have a sponsor who will guarantee to support them during their stay. I think its reasonable, considering how many bums would love to live a cheap life in South East Asia, for these countries to insist on any person who wants to long stay to show that they can support themselves.
Sue **********
Sue **********
Other countries demand a deposit in various amounts as well if you decide to immigrate. Either through a sponsor if you don’t have the money or by opening a bank account. Obviously nobody takes this into consideration when it comes to whining about the 800k 🤔

If a Thai only wants to visit Western countries as a tourist, like Europe, he has to show enough money on his account and has to have a job etc. In my homecountry they want a guaranteed amount of 125$/day and compulsory health insurance for a stay.

So please just try to think outside the box.
Yo***
Yo***
Sue Heimchen Very very true. Thailand is one of easiest countries to get a visa or permit to stay. But only if you have enough budget. Yes extra costs. In many other countries that I do not feel better than Thailand required much more money than Thailand and more complicated process.
Cris ******
Cris ******
As much as a i agree that rules are rules and there is a reason for needing money to cover expenses here. One thing I dont agree with is that lets take a marriage visa, married to a thai, lived here along time, and some unforeseen expenses come up or emergencies that hit the budget hard. Now your husband has to be deported or leave the country? That is not really fair.
Annie *******
Annie *******
Most of the other countries that allow expats to retire will require you to show proof of funds and/or income but will not force you to bring a fair amount of cash in the country to sit in a next to zero interest account forever. Offer me 5%+ and the 800k thb will be more attractive.
Yo***
Yo***
Annie Denis why do you put your deposit to the landlord when you rented a house? It is the same reason. 800K thb is secure deposit for Thailand. Thailand is the landlord and rented you a place to live in terms of conditions. So you, foreigners are tenants in Thailand. All landlords want to keep deposit for security reason.
Annie *******
Annie *******
Young As mentioned in my previous comment, take a look at what other countries do. In the end, some countries are eager to attract retiree expats and some make it less attractive. Please keep in mind that the money those expats bring in the country is new money that would never have come to the country if not for these expats. And, I'll speak for myself, the 2M+ thb I spend here yearly can go somewhere else in a heartbeat. I do love Thailand, but be aware the market is competitive.
Bill *********
Bill *********
Annie Denis I couldn't care less if my money sets in a Thai bank account and does not earn interest. I merely do a couple extra stock market trades and that will make up for the interest for the whole year.
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
@Bill ********
if anything statistics indicate that the more you trade the less money you make so not sure how doing "a couple extra stock market trades" offsets anything here. You can lose money as easily as make it and active traders underperform the market on average.
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
@Bi**
if you are saying you are the exceptional 1% of fund managers that manages to consistently outperform the market (and it is that low- among *professional* fund managers over 30 years), then this is hardly advice that can be offered to people in general, is it? 99% of people will lose money following this advice.

It's like me saying I have a rich aunt that gives me the 800,000 every year. Just have a rich aunt.
Bill *********
Bill *********
Ivan McAvinchey I won't argue with the statistics, as those represent an average across many different strategies and traders; however, I can say that the more I trade, the more money I make. The spreadsheets for every trade I’ve executed over the years prove that easily. As an active trader, I am outperforming the overall market.

I hold the necessary licenses and certifications, having worked for one of the largest financial services firms in both institutional and retail capacities. I’ve managed several client portfolios and have been trading professionally since 2001, so I think I know a thing or two. And so again, a couple of extra trades will cover the interest.
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
Nick the point is "a couple of trades" does not necessarily net you more money than just leaving your positions alone and not touching them at all. In fact statistically, leaving well alone is what will net you the more money.

If it was trivial to guarantee a return from any trade, you could quickly become a billionaire simply by repeating the process, due to the effect of compounding. But it's not.
Nick **********
Nick **********
Ivan McAvinchey A couple, not a couple every hour.

You maintain core positions then trade around those.

Don't just put it all on red.
Annie *******
Annie *******
Yep! that's the calculation I did and that $30k pays for my Elite / Privilege visa. To each his own.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Annie ******
How do you propose they verify the funds if not in Thailand? Anyone can create a bank statement in 2 minutes. The best way to do it is use the 800k for a year, and during that year start doing monthly transfers. Then for year 2 you use the monthly transfers as proof of income and can use your 800k for something else.
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
@Brandon ***********
many embassies will still certify foreign income, and Thailand still accepts this with no money in Thailand from the countries that do it. My own country (Ireland) still issues income letters.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Ivan ***********
that has nothing to do with immigration. It's the embassies that stopped because they weren't actually vetting anything, they were just notarizing letters from people
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
@Bra****
the point is there is a mechanism to vet proof of foreign funds. It's an unwillingness to do it that is the issue, not that it is impossible.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Ivan ***********
Fewer and fewer countries still do that. 2 or 3 stopped in just the last year. But if it's available, it's the best option.
Annie *******
Annie *******
So, in conclusion, all the other countries (Italy, Portugal, Panama, ect...) are stupid and will accept any non- certified piece of paper? That's not the way it goes. Proof of funds and or income can be vetted and proven. If you are an investor and are planning to set up a business, that's normal practice to bring funds in the country but for a retirement visa, Thailand is the only one that I know that has such a requirement.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Annie ******
How do you "vet" proof of funds? Banks will not release information to someone that's not the account holder. Thailand is no stranger to people getting visas through fraud, that's why the rules are what they are. Everything is abused and the rules get stricter.
Graeme *******
Graeme *******
They make the rules, not sure if other countries have the same requirements to live there I know NZ doesn't if married, but in some cases they do require a sponsor . Where it alls goes wrong is this money thing, most that come here on marriage or retirement have an income yearly many purchase a house/build buy a vehicle and live in the community just like Thais have bills monthly buy food and probably go on trips around the country always spending. Unfortunately others arrive settle in tourists areas and spend thinking they are tourists and that's where it can all go wrong.
Joiner *****
Joiner *****
O they ask and check that you have 800,000 in the bank to prove you can support yourself, but the tell you you cant ever spend more than half

Where is the logic in that ?

We all come with good amounts. But over time, cars, houses, etc, these amount get reduced, but can still afford a decent lifestyle

What is the point of having 400,000 sitting doing nothing every year that if you have a unforseen bill to pay, you then lose your visa ?

Why do single people need 800,000 , while married with children only need 400,000?
Yo***
Yo***
Joiner Man 800 K thb in the thai bank is like secure deposit when you rent a house. you can not touch that deposit until your contract is ended. If you move earlier or break contracts or damage something in house or something wrong in the house, the landlord can keep your deposit. Your 800K thb is like this for Thailand. You are a tenant in Thailand, and Thailand rented you a place to live as long as your visa or permit valid. Thailand is landlord. When you have problems in Thailand, Thailand can take your money.
Tyler *********
Tyler *********
Joiner Man It's the same as USA. They want your money so they can play with it. Has nothing to do with you supporting yourself.
Sue **********
Sue **********
Joiner Man only if married to a Thai. And because it is assumed that you have more expenses supporting Thai wife and children than a single person
Joiner *****
Joiner *****
Sue Heimchen yes

So why a married man only need 400,00, but a single man 800,000?
Yo***
Yo***
Joiner Man because he can work in Thailand. and his Thai wife can also work too. but retirees can not work in Thailand. So, reasonable for me.
Rocky **********
Rocky **********
Joiner Man that indeed strange but there is an answer on that:: TIT lol
Patricia **************
Patricia **************
Glad I don't need or want the Thai lady, one less issue for me to stress about😅
Stephen ********
Stephen ********
Patricia Ann Gardner But they're hot though!
Patricia **************
Patricia **************
Stephen Howell I might need a "house manager" hot or cold LOL just handle the home and go home😅
อามานด้า ******
อามานด้า ******
I agree!
Marcel *********
Marcel *********
Yes it's a huge deal, no decent normal Thai people will have this amount of
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0 for a year. It's insane.
Freddie **********
Freddie **********
Marcel Wuersch ....and your point is???
John **********
John **********
@Marcel ********
Thai people don't need a visa for Thailand
Danny *******
Danny *******
Marcel Wuersch They have national health insurance here and you don't.
Gordon ************
Gordon ************
Yes, but they don’t need too 😂😂😂👍

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