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What should US citizens in Thailand do after the US Embassy announced it won't extend stay requests post-July 31?

Jul 14, 2020
6 years ago
Ivan ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
The US Embassy has confirmed that it will NOT be issuing letters to request any further extension of stay after July 31. Advice for US citizens is either (1) return to US or country you have permanent residence, (2) obtain a long-stay visa for Thailand.

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The US Embassy in Thailand has announced it will not issue further letters for extending stays after July 31, advising US citizens to either return to the US or obtain a long-stay visa for Thailand. The community expressed mixed reactions, discussing the implications for expats living in Thailand, the situation with other nationalities, and sharing personal experiences related to the visa process during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Steve **********
If in a hole, stop digging
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Bim *******
The reason they are doing this is because there has been no response from the Thai government to there request about the status of the Amnesty. The UK and Australia the same.
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Matt *******
No more living in Thailand 😭
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Jeff *******
@Matt ******
only have to leave if you are relying on the visa amnesty
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Kevin ******
Dont you just love your country. This is why we dont live here in our own country.
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Michael **************
@Kevin *****
I have more than enough for retirement I’m close to 5k a month. I just enjoy Thailand and the people
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Richard ******
@Kevin *****
you cant afford to live in youre own country be honest
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Kevin ******
@Richard *****
cheeky cunt.
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Hettie *******
@Richard *****
and you are dependent on tourists...be nice
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Jeff *******
@Hettie ******
I'm not sure why Mr Wade is dependent on tourists, but Thailand isn't. Don't expect to be invited in until America has the virus under control.
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Hettie *******
@Jeff ******
Thailand is dependent on tourist like Americans and others....maybe Thailand need to do more testing...the reason why cases are so high in America...
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Jeff *******
@Hettie ******
let's start at the end. America's doing a lot of testing? that's why cases are so high? explain then how being 23rd in the world in tests per 1 million population translates to being 12th in the world in total cases.

most sources have tourism at around 15 percent of the Thai economy. that's more than the USA (around 3%). meanwhile industry is around 35 percent agriculture is around 8. the service sector 56 percent. presumably we can assume that includes tourism.

even if we assume that all of the 15 percent is Western tourists? numbers i've seen: 16.3 million East Asia, 10.6 million ASEAN, 6.7 million Europe, 1.6 million Americas.

so really? the The economy depends on tourism? Thailand needs YOU??? the tourism sector doesn't even depend on Western tourists. c'mon.

next time, try numbers instead of made up talking points.
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Michael **************
@Kevin *****
Sorry to but my country there isn’t any better. I’ll die defending her.

USA all the way.
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Billy *******
@Michael *************
i keep telling my son, f the US before the US f's him. Try going through a divorce in that shit hole. And now get ready to pay reparations. It never ends.
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Jeff *******
@Michael *************
it's the best place to live so you want to leave?
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Carsten ************
The best President ever awaits you. It's save there, he'll give you a shot of desinfectants
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Steve **********
@Carsten ***********
despite spelling, like comment. He is my comedy FIX now.
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@Carsten ***********
he is the best off course...the democrats will run the country into a shithole...Trump 2020
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Michael **************
@Carsten ***********
I know this much vine election time. He has my vote
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Bob **********
@Carsten ***********
well you got the best president ever part right 😎😎😎
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Michael **************
I’m American and I would come if they let me
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Jeff *******
it's not generation-specific, look at all the 'Muricans throwing tantrums because their consulate won't write 'em a letter so they can stay longer.
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Jeff *******
help 'Murica get the plague under control and maybe they'll let you.
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Michael **************
@Jeff ******
Well you know how Americans are

They do what they want when they want how they want
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Jeff *******
@Michael *************
they expect to, anyway.

then throw a tantrum when they don't get their way. because tantrums are so much more effective than problem solving and everyone should care about their feelings.
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Michael **************
@Jeff ******
I agree with you. The new generation is useless

I’m old school and I cannot believe how they are tearing apart America. If I had my way they all would be in jail
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@Michael *************
My co-teacher is American and he would love to get back to Thailand asap. Even with a wp, he has no chance of coming back anytime soon.

The other teachers and myself have to take over his English classes now.
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Michael **************
@David *****
How do you apply for that job
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David ********
@Michael *************
Be willing and prepared to come live in the Thai deep south and to accept a so-so salary in the process.
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Michael **************
@David *****
I’m going to look into it.

I don’t need much. I have enough to to live comfortably over there. Just looking something to do.
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Jeff *******
as an American, i'm looking forward to running into fewer Americans :p
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Billy *******
@Jeff ******
Me too!
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Michael ********
Hey guys its the Same for the Brits and probably most of Europe also Australia and the ozzys got to pay for there quarantine now. As there minister said you have had enough time and flights now you have to pay
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Sukhumvite ******
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Jeff *******
to those crowing with delight that the Americans are shipping out...

not so fast.

those of us with actual visas are harder to get rid of than herpes.
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Todd *********
@Jeff ******
we shall see πŸ™‚ looks like the American beach 🀑 days may be at an end. β€˜Clear them out’ as he said
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Jeff *******
@Todd ********
the problem with getting an actual visa is your beach time is constantly interrupted by your four employees who are bombarding you with questions as they do all the actual work.
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Bim *******
Japan are not allowing transit passengers. This is inaccurate.
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Ivan ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
I think they are. From Timatic 01.07.2020:

"Passengers transiting through Tokyo (NRT) must transit on the same calendar day."
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Bim *******
@Ivan ***********
today's JAL flight status cancelled. You really want to be handing money over to an airline now?
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Ivan ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@B**
whether a particular flight is cancelled is a different issue to whether Japan is allowing transit. A lot of flights to a lot of places have been cancelled.

When you look at the cancellation boards, a lot of these flights have been cancelled for a long time, it's not like they just suddenly cancelled them the day before, they have been cancelled for months.

This ANA flight is running BKK-HND daily.

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@Ivan ***********
yes I follow flight tracker
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John *********
Short translation is stop trying to fuck the system.

I lived happily in Thailand 14 years.
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Ken ***********
@John ********
in what way do others wanting to stay affect you ? Your posting has an air of "I got mine, forget the rest". Why not just live and let live?
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John *********
@Ken ******
read please. Maybe you are unable to understand. Good schools deserve to be well treated and to hell with the shit schools and lousy agents who rip off so many. They do not deserve consideration.
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Ken ***********
@John ********
this post is about the amnesty for expats not about schools or agents, what are you going on about ?
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David ********
Bye bye Americans! I will really miss you.😜
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David ********
Bye bye Mike. It was nice knowing you. See you in the morning of November 4.πŸ˜™
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David ********
LOL at Americans blaming democrats when it's the republicans that have got you into this mess
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Jeff *******
Mike Dobbin no i mean the shit show where 'Muricans are dumb enough to believe in their "team." like Trump lying makes Biden not a liar? like Democrats being on corporate dick means Republicans aren't? c'mon.

if you think a virus--a literal force of nature--will evaporate due to an election? congrats. you're part of the shit show.
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Jeff *******
i reckon i'm stayin'. tough luck that, ace :p
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Jeff *******
@Mike *******
if you knew the hoops i went through to form a company worthy of Chaeng Wattana's blessing i suspect that envy would evaporate.

that said i'm looking forward to not going back there in the middle of a shit show.
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Robert **************
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Todd *********
Bring em all home Donald
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Steve ******
As it should be
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Asger *********
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Brahim ******
Short translation: GET THE FUCK OUT.
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Ivan ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
The US is making allowances for the situation and people who can't leave, with extensions and extra flexibility for late applications. For people on visa waivers they can give repeated 30 day periods but looks like you may have to justify it.

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George ********
@Brahim *****
aren t you the famous movie star that entered 12 x in a year on 30 day visitors visas? Where do you make your films 55
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Jeff *******
@George *******
12x a year on a 30 day non-visa isn't a problem, trying to stay more than 6 months out of 12 on 30 day stamps is the problem. that said i don't know if it's calendar year or rolling 12 months...

don't ask me how i know <adjusts halo>
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George ********
@Jeff ******
and so it should. Same as at home I hope
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Jeff *******
@George *******
one country's visa rules do not resemble another's. a visa to the US is multiple entries, multiple years. if people actually work on oil rigs etc, and want to use 30 day stamps, they have to make sure they're gone enough.

if people are in a holding pattern because they think the paperwork's almost done for forming their company, i strongly advise a tourist visa instead of a 30 day stamp. again, don't ask how i know :p
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George ********
@Jeff ******
I just suggest you get the appropriate visa. Visa cheats here are the virst to complain about someone entering Canada as a tourist and working.
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Brahim ******
@Geo***
dude looll i cant enter any of those countries i mentionned without a working visa to work on a film lloolll otherwise u cant pay tax
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Jeff *******
@George *******
um... i should get the appropriate visa? you missed the line about "holding pattern while forming company," i think... 'round here, form a company correctly and it can come with a work permit. tends to require your company actually does stuff and has revenue, but it works.

i suspect Chaeng Wattana's generous one year extension on my non-b will do just fine...
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Garrett ***********
@Je**
Takes no more than 45 days to open a company.
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Jeff *******
@Garrett **********
if everything is already in order.
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George ********
@Jeff ******
@Brahim *****
I wasn t accusing anyone of impropriety. I just said do the right thing. Here or in Canada
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Jeff *******
George ok! also worth mentioning that *how* you do the right thing matters.... one doesn't want to be in the position of needing to fly into Thailand one more time to get your work permit...

i can testify that it can be done, but unless lobbying the immi boss at don muang for 'just 15 more days' sounds like fun, it would be advisable to plan ahead...
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Brahim ******
@Geo***
couple of places Aussie, NZ, Bulgaria, Canada, China and other places. Famous though I wouldnt say so 😜😜😜
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Oliver ********
huh? this is an announcement from the american embassy, not thai immigration, and basically just states the obvious that they aren't going to lie on paper for the sake of any american tourists who want to pretend they are stranded in thailand.
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