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What is the latest about the U.S. Embassy's stance on digital COVID extension letters for Thai Immigration?
Sep 10, 2020
6 years ago
Jesse *********
ORIGINAL POSTERAnother update... U.S. Embassy getting a bit pissed now at Thai Immigration? They confirmed from 3 different supervisors now that the Thai government has already agreed to accept digital printout/email for COVID extension letters and to push the issue if they refuse 🤷🏻♂️🥴
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The U.S. Embassy has expressed frustration with Thai Immigration regarding the acceptance of digital COVID extension letters, with confirmation from multiple supervisors that the Thai government agreed to accept such documents. However, experiences shared by users indicate significant variability in acceptance at different immigration offices, with Bangkok reportedly being more flexible than provincial offices. Some commenters reported challenges in contacting the U.S. Embassy and difficulties in having their documents accepted by Thai officials. The conversation touches on concerns over the security of digital letters and the original documentation requirement.
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Mark ***********
I understand why the Thai government is nervous. I can alter that letter to include anyone's name and passport information in minutes, even on a tablet, and so could most people if they wanted.
Jesse *********
ORIGINAL POSTERthey are decades behind Infosec... even Photoshopping the confirmation email is very easy, the point is that the letter shouldn't be required anyways, it is a pointless hurdle just to frustrate people IMO
Mark ***********
@Je***
, interesting. But I guess it puts the embassy in the loop and gives them some responsibility? Unless forgeries, of course...Reply to
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Bobby ********
@Mark **********
. I think this is what they are wising up to. Immigration has every right to demand original copies of letters.Mark ***********
@Bo***
, yes, but, what is an "original" copy of an electronic document? That is why they wanted to see my email to the embassy.Weird thing is, they only asked for a "screen shot" printed out, which could just as easily be forged. I did them one better and gave them my phone so they could forward the email to themselves and print it out.
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Brian **********
Digital print out of new zelands letter just converted to an extension at muang Thani. A print should be fine. Appeal if they reject since it's allowed
Bobby ********
@Brian *********
. It's only allowed if the immigration office accepts it. People forget it's Thai immigration that make the rules, not the embassies. An embassy cannot compel an immigration office to accept any letterBrian **********
@Bobby *******
the appeals process is with immigration. You appeal directly with them. There are reports of individual immigration officers changing their opinion once it was appealed to their bossReply to
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Channel **********
Thai immigration listening to the American Embassy lol.
Now chance of the sick buffalo feeling better. 🙈
Now chance of the sick buffalo feeling better. 🙈
Bobby ********
@Channel *********
. I have a chuckle over this too. Some people give the impression that the US embassy can read the riot act to Thai immigration! 🤣🤣🤣Reply to
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Huafeng ******
Nice pushing!
Marguyvin **********
Bangkok is accepting them. It's the provincial offices that are making it hard. Perhaps trying to force people to pay an agency?
Dominic ****
@MarGuyvin **
trying to profit from covid. What else would you expect?Jesse *********
ORIGINAL POSTERYep I think so, either they're totally clueless about BKK policy (doubtful) or lazy + only willing to help agency cases... I should start video them next time
Channel **********
@Jesse ********
...strange way to ask for a 5 year prison sentence 🤔Reply to
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Bim *******
Yes they tried that with me. Print it off in colour.
Jesse *********
ORIGINAL POSTERUdon Thani... they used to be really helpful but grumpy and lazy the past few times I've been... idk what happened
Jesse *********
ORIGINAL POSTERI didn't say anything about emails or anything just handed a beautiful color print to him and he sneared and walked away and said he wants the original idk maybe it wasn't thick enough lol
Steve **********
@Jesse ********
been there. thick is getting thicker Jeff ******
@Jesse ********
should have attached a beautiful coloured £1000 bhat lol 😂 Reply to
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Jeff ******
print it off on normal paper take it to copy shop put on thicker paper put in envelope hand over the thin one show them the thicker !!
Bim *******
@Jeff *****
yes. I went to explain about the email and my wife kicked me and told me shut up. Haha she dealt with it Reply to
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Jesse *********
ORIGINAL POSTERI did it they refused it, wouldn't even look at it just walked away from me
Brian **********
@Jesse ********
what office refused ?Bim *******
@Jesse ********
I just told them it was original. Lie. It works seriously. I had one in colour and the rest in black and whiteReply to
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Steve **********
Called them as well as Consul in CM more times than can count.
Their text and email accounts are shut down blaming Covid
They flag all correspondence as "Cannot Accept " due to Covid.
Should have called Woodward, eh.
Their text and email accounts are shut down blaming Covid
They flag all correspondence as "Cannot Accept " due to Covid.
Should have called Woodward, eh.
John-Paul ******
@Steve *********
rubbish... emails are not shut down... just swampedJesse *********
ORIGINAL POSTERPretty sure it's the entrenched career foreign service staff who are the lazy bastards, always been that way but slightly better lately for some reason maybe fire breathing from Trump... got my letter from BKK Embassy in 1 business day
Steve **********
@Jesse ********
you reached a NEW member of the staff...congratsReply to
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Steve **********
HOW ?
Have been trying to contact either Consulate in Chiangmai or Embassy in Bkk for 6 weeks .
Dozens of phone calls
Dozens of Emails
Dozens of texts
Stood on front of Consulate asking to speak to anyone. Thais said "go away."
If an American can not reach his State Dept. How can Immigration ??
Have been trying to contact either Consulate in Chiangmai or Embassy in Bkk for 6 weeks .
Dozens of phone calls
Dozens of Emails
Dozens of texts
Stood on front of Consulate asking to speak to anyone. Thais said "go away."
If an American can not reach his State Dept. How can Immigration ??
Rich ********
Last Thursday for today
Steve **********
@Rich *******
Thanks. Am heading down to Bkk.Reply to
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Rich ********
@Steve *********
? I had no problem scheduling an appointment with the embassy and going there today.. not for an extension letter. Steve **********
@Rich *******
your appt from website Rich. I have been getting site flagged with for emergency only, even then no response to my texts, emails or on their site with a red apostrophe reading "not recieved". How long ago did you make appt if I may ask.?
Steve **********
Sorry Rich. My problem is with Consulate in Chiang Mai.
Am getting ready to fly to Bkk as my passport is expiring and the mail system right now is iffy.
Am getting ready to fly to Bkk as my passport is expiring and the mail system right now is iffy.
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Marguyvin **********
The link to request a letter is embedded a few layers down in the U.S. Embassy website under Entry/Exit requirements, but it is there. Here's a direct link. You should get a response back same day.
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Bobby ********
Ultimately it's up to Thai immigration what they accept. The US Embassy cannot overrule them
Todd *********
bobby, let's not get crazy. Thailand is at the mercy of the other embassies. And many thousands of thai citizens abroad also. Immigration job is to take the letter and stamp the 30 day extension. Full stop. f they continue to fail - they will be instructed
Bobby ********
@Todd ********
. Immigration make their own rules. Todd *********
@Bo***
until they get told 🙂 Bobby ********
@Todd ********
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Henderikus *****
@Bobby *******
correct. Thai Immigration can decide what they accept. Todd *********
@Rieks ****
they cannot. As their orders come from far higherBobby ********
@Rieks ****
. Which often changes day by day! It's the fun of being in a lottery!Henderikus *****
@Bobby *******
maybe so, but can they trust anything from US Embassy ? Reply to
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