What are the tax implications for US citizens leaving money in a Thai bank account?

October 18, 2020
4 years ago
Ace ****
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Question regarding opening bank here as a US citizen. I had to do the W9 form. The bank person said the US government will tax me based on the money I leave in the bank. I just wonder how does it all work. Will the tax be on the interest amount or the total balance amount?

Thanks in advance
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The question addresses the tax implications for a US citizen opening a bank account in Thailand, specifically regarding the W9 form and US taxation on bank funds. Numerous comments clarify that US citizens are not taxed on their total bank balance but must report foreign accounts if they exceed $10,000. Only the interest earned from the account is subject to US taxation. Additionally, it's necessary to file an FBAR annually for accounts exceeding the $10,000 threshold. Different banks have varying policies concerning tax reporting, notably Citibank issuing a 1099 form and withholding Thai taxes which can be claimed as a credit on US taxes.
Austin *********
Vagabond is not an American or he doesn't understand tax law....I didn't say your taxed on the balance of your account**** I said you should report any and all foreign earnings interest earned and payments. U can exclude.up to 100k. But report. Thomas can't read or is a Russian Troll.
Thomas **********
@Austin ********
Again, I did not comment on anything that you have said. You are pissed at me for no reason.
Austin *********
I am not passed. I just want to make sure this guy understands the law
Austin *********
Just so u know...u can claim credit or up to 100k.in foreign earning no tax...but report.
Antonio ***********
Only 15% of interest
Chris *********************
I m stranded in the UK and put my money into a thai bank account not tax penalty from no country don't no about Usa
Paul *************
If you are using Citibank Thailand they will send you a US 1099 on the interest and withhold Thai Taxes which you can claim as a credit on your USA income taxes. For Citibank, you are not required to file a FBAR. Bangkok Bank will not issue a US 1099 on the interest and will withhold Thai taxes. You should still report the interests on your 1040 and claim the credit for Thai Taxes. For Bangkok Bank you will need to file a FBAR if you have a balance greater than $10,000 at year end
Jp *******
@Paul ************
surprised to know that Citi Thailand issue 1099-INT. Can US citizens open a personal saving or checking account ?
Paul *************
@Jp ******
Yes, I am a USA citizen and I have a savings account in Baht and Dollars. The Citi Thailand Debit card will allow me to withdraw in the USA in Dollars. The advantage of Citi Thailand is I can transfer money from Citi USA in about 1 hour without a fee and now I can transfer to my Bangkok Bank account instantaneously. Also I can transfer money back to Citi USA online in about 1 hour.
Mark *************
@Paul ************
wow very knowledgeable TY for the guidance to all Farang! Stranded 8 months now in US
Ace ****
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@Paul ************
oh I didn’t know each bank has different ways. I opened one with Krungsri bank
Kool *******
Many times, it can be more advantageous just to put your money in a non-interest bearing account, as you are only taxed on interest earned, and it's not that big of a loss considering the hassle involved.
Steve **********
@Kool ******
well right now all accounts are just about Non Interest.
Kool *******
@Steve *********
, one of mine is interest bearing, but at only 1.2%, so doesn't even affect my taxes.
Steve **********
@Kool ******
you dont need to declare tax , although bank deducts. Untess over 10k.

If your savings is chwrging you tax, you can apply and get it back if it doesnt exceed 20k baht.

1.5 is pretty good . Few years ago bkk has a 2.9. Now .5
Kool *******
@Steve *********
, my bank does not charge me deductions for taxes.
Vitico ********
You have to file an FBAR every year that you have a bank account abroad with the equivalent of $10,000 or more. If you don’t the IRS can fine you $10,000 if it was unintentional or they can fine you $100,000 or 50% of your money whichever is greater if they think you intentionally didn’t file it. Pretty scary stuff but its easy to fix. Most accountants will charge you $50-$100 to do this. Or You can find the link on the IRS website or google it and file it yourself. Its actually super easy it took me like 5 or 10 minutes to do it myself. Same deadlines as taxes. If you make interest on your bank account abroad you are supposed to add that to your taxable income or wherever it asks when you file taxes. Filing taxes abroad is kind of confusing. If its your first time its better to just let an accountant do it (probably $300-$500 fee) and maybe the next year you can take those forms as an example and do it yourself if you want to save money.
Ace ****
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@Vitico *******
thank you, I usually have a CPA do my taxes. I was just making sure it’s ok to send money from my us bank to this bank without paying tax.
Thomas **********
His comment was technically incorrect. You are not taxed on the money you have in a bank account, you are only required by US tax laws to file a form declaring all foreign bank accounts and the funds within. You are taxed on earned income as applicable - not money in banks.
Thomas **********
Dude, I didn’t comment on anything you said. You should check the feed again, then piss off. I replied only to the author’s posting.
Austin *********
@Thomas *********
you need to read correctly what i said. Read the IRS forms on foreign earnings. Didnt say your taxed on ur Bank account balance. Grrrrr
Thomas **********
@Austin ********
when I said he was technically incorrect, I was referring to what banker said when the account was opened. Is that what has you confused?
Steve **********
When I did my taxes this year I let my accountant know that I had an account here with more than $10K USD. He said ok. That was that. I didn’t see any additional tax burden.
Kenny ********
@Steve *********
Your accountant would need to know from your the bank name and address were you had at any given time $10,000 or more in a foreign account. It is a formality to fill out the form. You can do it yourself easy. I use to let my CPA do it when filing my taxes but he charged an extra $100 to complete the form and file. Search online for the form FBAR.
John *********
@St***
, most US accountants are not familiar with the F-Bar. Be safe and ask him specifically or just check with the IRS.
Steve **********
He is an accountant that specializes in American expats working abroad. He’s very familiar.

But thanks for looking out for me. Much appreciated.
Steve **********
@Steve *********
Your accountant may think you are preparing your own fbar, because if he specializes in American taxes, he will know.
Sammy *******
@Steve *********
John Hampton is 100% correct about the FBAR filing for foreign account that reach 10,000 and above-- severe penalties for failing to fired-- as there is no tax involved, I agree with John that many accountants fail to discuss it-- if ur guy is very well versed than he should have advised u already on FBAR filings.
Kenny ********
@Sammy ******
you are a absolutely . correct. Many Falangs here are not aware of this. If you use the 800,000 baht route for retirement That is over the 10,000. You must file FBAR. Just reporting. There is no interest earned
Steve **********
Again, appreciate the concern but most if not all of his clients for the entire firm are expats working aboard and most in the Middle East that are making more than $10K a month. They are well aware as it is literally the foundation of their company.
Maureen *****************
Thanks
Garrett ***********
😂😂😂😂 Most Thai people don't even understand how taxs work in Thailand, yet they know what the US government is going to tax you? Lol

The biggest thing in regards to keeping money in a foreign bank account is filling an F-bar if you have more then $10k USD in your account.
Tom ********
@Garrett **********
exactly Garrett
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