As a US citizen, do retirees pay taxes in Thailand?
Income earned inside Thailand during retirement is the only income subject to tax, while personal income from pension, interest, or other income sources in your home country is not subject to income tax in Thailand. This creates a 100% tax-free retirement in Thailand.
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Retirees from the US living in Thailand are subject to Thai taxation on income earned within Thailand but may benefit from the dual taxation agreement between the US and Thailand, which can protect certain income types from taxation in Thailand. As of 2023, the policy has changed, and now any income remitted to Thailand could be taxable if the retiree is considered a tax resident (over 180 days in the country). Social Security income is only taxable in the US, not in Thailand.
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This is not a correct statement, and you should consult a USA/THAI tax attorney if you are bringing in a substantial amount of money other than your U.S. paid Social Security/Pension.
If you live in Thailand for over 180 days, you are considered a resident and there is a very good chance you will be challenged at some point to declare all income earned in or after 2024 that you brought into the country (but everything is in the air right now).
You can apply a tax credit for taxes you have already paid in a foreign country. Article 2 of the DTA might help.
Disclaimer: I am a certified Ford Senior Master Technician (car mechanic), so I am qualified to give free tax advice to anyone that will listen.
"Social security benefits and other similar public pensions paid by a Contracting State to a resident of the other Contracting State or a citizen of the United States shall be taxable only in the first-mentioned State."
This means that your U.S. Social Security income, even when brought into Thailand, is only taxable by the United States and not by Thailand. This provides protection to your Social Security income, ensuring it is not subject to double taxation.
John ********
Consult a Tax Attorney in Thailand. FB is good at some (few) things.
Providing Tax advice, NO!
Stephen ********
Just curious, if on a retirement visa, how can one earn income in thailand? π€
You could own condos that you rent out, that's income. You could own a business that you don't work at, that's income. You could have stocks and bonds, and generate income based on sales or dividends etc which is income.
currently the bank takes that tax, so not needing to be declared.
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John **********
The US taxes your global income whether you are a tax resident of the US or not. Thailand taxes any income you earn inside the country. Also all income you remit to Thailand is assessable for Thai tax, you can claim a credit for any tax already paid on the money you remit and certain income is not subject to Thai tax as defined in the dual tax agreement between the US and Thailand. Dividends, Interest etc can be taxed in Thailand. SS can't be taxed in Thailand but other pensions can be subject to Thai tax. Best you read, or get someone skilled to read, the DTA between the 2 countries
The case was that any income earned in a different year would not have taxes due if it was remitted to Thailand in the following year or later. For retirees that basically meant their income wouldn't be taxed because it was retirement income from earnings long ago.
As of 2023 the policy has changed to tax income regardless of when it was earned once it is remitted to Thailand.
But as long as you already paid taxes on the income and your country has a dual taxation treaty with Thailand, you don't be double taxed.
This only applies if you are a tax resident of Thailand (180 days in the country)
How this will actually work in policy is unknown as 2024 is the first year this goes into effect meaning it won't come up until the beginning of 2025 during tax season.
there still seems to be a lot of conjecture whether this tax will come into effect, has it been documented in the Kingβs Gazette, or what is the LEGAL protocol for this process to take place and the tax becoming due on Foreign Income derivatives?