ask
Search
Ask
Answered2 years ago

What are the requirements for obtaining a retirement visa in Thailand and do I need to pay an agent for the process?

Jo *********
asked Jan 4, 2025
5.7k
views
51
replies
6
likes
Hi, from new zealand. We arrive in hua hin in may . We arrive on a 60 days,then apply for 30 days then a retirement visa. We will be going thru a agent , when they apply for our visas and open our bank accounts.do you pay any bank money directly to the agent, if not do you then go and deposit 800k yourself or can you dep 65k a month which is our preferred option . Thankyou
Answer summary
The user from New Zealand plans to arrive in Hua Hin on a 60-day visa, then extend their stay for an additional 30 days and apply for a retirement (Non-O) visa. They are considering using an agent for visa application and to open a bank account. The discussion centers around finances, specifically whether to pay the agent to handle the 800k Baht deposit for the visa or if they can deposit 65k Baht monthly instead. Various commenters share advice on managing the visa application, the role of the agent, and alternatives to using agents. It is emphasized that each individual must have their own Thai bank account and the required proof of funds separately.
51 repliesnewest first
19

Click comment and we will ask for your email, then OTP, then name.

David ****************
David ****************
Hi Jo.I am a New Zealander who has gone through the process twice.Feel free to send me a personal message. There is an on line option now where you can use funds in NZ with no need to transfer to Thailand. Can only be applied for in NZ. There are post arrival complexities however.
Shelly ******
Shelly ******
@Jo ********
I query some of the comments and advice you are being given, that is why you are best to go through an agent so you will get the correct advice first time.
Graham ******
Graham ******
@Shelly *****
You get the advice which makes them money I think you'll find if you look into it
Colin *********
Colin *********
@Jo ********
nobody has mentioned in their comments, so just in case you're not aware, each person needs to have a Thai bank account in their own name, not joint names and both need to have the required proof of funds for the Visas, so 800k Baht each.
Shelly ******
Shelly ******
@Colin ********
that's not true. Assist Thai Visa advise you CAN piggy back off each other instead of having two lots of 800k baht.
Matthew *******
Matthew *******
Why are you using an agent if you have the 800K

Waste of money
Shelly ******
Shelly ******
@Matthew ******
some people like to use an agent first time around so they know everything is set up completely & correctly and saves headaches later on 🤷
Matthew *******
Matthew *******
@Shelly *****
yes I understand that but if the OP is saying doing a visa in NZ is expensive then why is money not an issue for an agent
Matthew *******
Matthew *******
@Shelly *****
depends on the agent but I’d say more
Shelly ******
Shelly ******
@Matthew ******
sure I hear what you are saying but someone earlier had said the price in NZ for the visa had gone up to $800 nzd that's $15,462 baht at today's rate. Would it cost you more or less in Thailand for an agent to complete it for you?
Matthew *******
Matthew *******
@Shelly *****
agents are not cheap the first time you use them, but hey up to them
Shelly ******
Shelly ******
@Matthew ******
okay I understand what you are saying. I'm guessing it's the difference in cost to have it done in NZ prior to coming vs the lesser expensive option of hiring a visa agent once she gets here.
Bart **************
Bart **************
Why all the hassle with a different visa first? If you already know you want to stay and use non-o, why not get it before you leave?
Jo *********
Jo *********
OP
Hi, i don't have a mth income over
*****
$ baht. Thankyou
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Jo ********
with no monthly income above 65.000 THB, your only choices are using your money for an above 800.000 THB deposit, or the +32.000 THB and up for an agent to front the money and grease the wheels
Matthew *******
Matthew *******
@Jo ********
my understanding is you will need to be on a visa to convert to tourist visa
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Matthew ******
the question was about NZ. The cost of visa there is huge so not a good idea.
Matthew *******
Matthew *******
@Lynnette ******
no, was given that info at Sydney consulate and IO commented when I entered at Bkk airport
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Matthew ******
you applied in NZ?
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Matthew ******
it's what's been suggested. Because applying in NZ is apparently very expensive.
Matthew *******
Matthew *******
@Lynnette ******
well that’s different to what I was told and what I did
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Matthew ******
they can enter without a visa, apply to get the Non Imm O in Thailand. Then do retirement option.
Matthew *******
Matthew *******
@Lynnette ******
wants a retirement visa

My understanding is (as told to me by Thai consulate in Sydney) one needs to be on a visa to change to retirement visa in country
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Matthew ******
she isn't converting a visa to a tourist visa.
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@Bart *************
the fee for the application to the Non-Imm-O visa in NZ went from 120 NZ-Dollar to 800 NZ-Dollar, which converts to $450 USD. It is much cheaper to enter Thailand visa-exempt and apply for the initial Non-Imm-O visa on Immigration. the fee would be 2000.- THB. And then only another 1900.- THB for the application to the 1-year extension. And she has a monthly income above 65.000 THB, so she can use the "income affidavit" of her embassy in Bangkok for both applications
Bart **************
Bart **************
@Nongnuch *******
ah right, in New Zealand they still have not discovered that their currency converters are mistakenly set for Dongs. Forgot, thanks 👍
David **********
David **********
You don't need health insurance just a return ticket just get one from scoot it's cheap just to any country Singapore or laos
Joseph *********
Joseph *********
@David *********
I just bought a bus ticker....only a couple if hundred THB
Philip *******
Philip *******
@David *********
chose a country that's visa on arrival you can buy a flight ex Bangkok for $80 usually to Phnom Penh
Drew *****
Drew *****
I recently paid 45K Baht. The first visa is for 15 month. The agent took care of the bank deposit and account. Bangkok Bank is insisting on purchasing 1 year accident insurance with the account. Make sure you have a minimum of 30 days on your visa for opening the account.
Marty ******
Marty ******
@Drew ****
yep I’m going that way too , 😜👍
Joseph *********
Joseph *********
I did mine in my own.

It's a slow process but not difficult. Immigration in Chiang Mai easy to work with.

Had friends who used agents and tgen had ti keep using them....expensive in the long term.
Ron ******
Ron ******
Couple of alternatives to paying an agent to do the whole process (which isn’t very difficult). 1. Get an O visa before leaving NZ then when you get here you won’t need an agent to open an account for you. Transfer funds then go to your local immigration office, they will give you a list of required docs for applying for your extension of stay. Get them together and go apply. 2. Alternatively arrive visa exempt, use an agent to open bank account, then you can start the process of applying for the O visa yourself. Does involve a bit more running around but will save you on cost of visa in NZ (since it went from $120 to $800 last March!). You’re going to be paying considerably more to use an agent for the entire process but it’s your choice.
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@Ron *****
the New Zealand Embassy in Bangkok is issuing "income affidavits". No need for 65.000 THB in monthly transfers into a Thai bank account
David **********
David **********
Maybe easier to get non o visa for 90 days then apply for retirement visa in thailand you can either have
*****
a month deposit into account or have
*****
0 in bank
David **********
David **********
Cool I wish Australia got would be so helping
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@David *********
sadly, the embassies of Australia, the United Kingdom and the USA, discontinued issuing "income affidavits" a few years ago. The turning point came when Thai Immigration realized that US Americans never had to show any documents that proved their income. All they had to do on their embassy was put their dirty fingers onto the Bible and swear "my income is 3000 Dollars per months, I swear by God" . . . . Thai immigration from there on refused to accept this bullshit. I fully agree they did the right thing 😉 And I suspect this farce was similar on the AUS and UK embassy
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@David *********
the New Zealand Embassy in Bangkok is issuing "income affidavits". No need for 65.000 THB in monthly transfers into a Thai bank account
Ned *******
Ned *******
@Gregor *********
....however . .The Irish Embassy do the same . ..but I still had to show ( to the immigration officer in Prachinburi) proof of

65,000 baht being transferred monthly into my Thai bank account.
Ned *******
Ned *******
@Gregor *********
....yep .... didn't make sense to me, but that's what I had to do . ..

I went in ( the first time to obtain my one year extension). With all my financial documents ...

Sent me away to obtain the 'affadavit' from my Embassy ....who told me I had to take to the main immigration office in Bangkok to have it 'stamped'

🙈🙈🙈 ....which I did ...

Then returned to Prachinburi immigration....who wanted to check and verify all the same financial documents and proof of income I had shown to my Embassy .....🙈🙈🙈 as well as bank statement showing proof of the monthly 65,000 baht deposit ( from foreign bank account ) into my Thai account.

Absolutely makes no sense ....

and such a palaver.....but still way way cheaper than having to use an agent
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@Ned ******
very illogical - this makes absolutely no sense.
Stuart ***********
Stuart ***********
@David *********
I think it's very expensive to apply for the non O retirement visa in NZ. That's possibly their reason for applying in Thailand.
David **********
David **********
@Stuart **********
it's a non o visa the retirement visa comes later
Stuart ***********
Stuart ***********
@David *********
most people get the non O visa based on retirement before coming to Thailand.

After 60 days you can extend your stay based on retirement for 12 months (this is not a visa, but a lot of people call it a visa).
David **********
David **********
@Stuart **********
I did not know but it's an easy way in Australia 120 dollars
Jo *********
Jo *********
OP
Thankyou for the replies
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@Jo ********
well, the New Zealand Embassy in Bangkok still issues "income affidavits". You can use the "minimum 65.000 THB income method" for an application to the "change of visa type" from a visa-exempt entry to the initial 90-days Non-Imm-O visa and the later application for the 1-year Extension of the Stay Permit. Ask your embassy in Bangkok which documentation they would need to issue a legalized income affidavit
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
You can't use the income method in first year. ( Or does your embassy give the affidavit?) Surely you've chosen an agent who has told you what you're paying them to do.
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@Lynnette ******
well, I am not sure, but I think the New Zealand Embassy in Bangkok still issues "oncome affidavits". In case they do, Jo McGuire can use the "minimum 65.000 THB income method" for an application to the "change of visa type" from a visa-exempt entry to the initial 90-days Non-Imm-O visa and the later application for the 1-year Extension of the Stay Permit
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Gregor *********
good point, of course if their embassy issues the income affidavit. Their agent who's handling this should be giving them all the info.
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
Perhaps you need all this information from the agent. They need to give you clear detailed explanation of what they are doing for you. Are they providing the 800k? Are they opening bank account for you? Are you using own 800k money? What exactly is the agent doing for you?

Activity

19 joined
Jo *********
Jo *********
Jo *********
Jo *********
Jo *********
Jo *********
19
people
Thai Visa Advice and Everything Else
Thai Visa Advice and Everything Else
...members60% approval
Member 1
Member 2
Member 3
Member 4
Member 5
Member 6
Member 7
Member 8

Related

25
How can some agencies claim a 15-month Non-O visa in Thailand?
8.1k591202mo
Can I get a retirement visa in Thailand with my Social Security and annuity income?
16.9k1192565mo
Can I apply for a retirement visa while in Thailand on a tourist visa, and when can I obtain a tax number?
2.4k17299mo
What happens if I can't get my 800k in a Thai bank for my Non-O retirement visa?
3.8k33309mo
How can I obtain a retirement visa for Thailand?
14.7k1012189mo
Can my grandfather combine his social security and savings to apply for a Non-O visa from the US for retirement in Thailand?
7.2k501011y
How long does it take to convert a Non-O visa to a retirement visa in Thailand?
8.5k581121y
What steps should I take to get my retirement visa in Thailand before my arrival?
3k3291y
What are the steps to obtain a retirement visa in Thailand as a veteran?
5.2k35701y
Do I need to deposit 100,000 baht before or after obtaining the confirmation letter for a Non-O retirement visa?
4.2k24681y
Can I apply for a retirement visa while already in Thailand or do I need to leave and apply from abroad?
2.4k17221y
What is the estimated cost of hiring an agent for a Non-O retirement visa in Thailand utilizing an 800,000 baht swift payment?
2.5k20211y
What are the requirements and procedures for applying for a Non-O retirement visa in Jomtien?
1.6k9191y
Can I get a retirement visa for Thailand without health insurance?
6.8k51841y
What are the advantages of processing a retirement visa in Thailand versus the UK?
3.8k34282y
Should I apply for my retirement visa in the USA or in Thailand?
702352y
Should I apply for a retirement visa to Thailand in the UK or during my 60-day visit?
3.8k28372y
Can I maintain my retirement visa status while working outside Thailand every year?
5.7k50472y
What are the requirements for applying for a Non-O retirement visa in Bangkok regarding bank accounts and leases?
1.4k1043y
When should I apply for a one-year extension on my non-immigrant retirement visa in Thailand?
3.6k26393y
Can a hotel provide documentation for a retirement visa in Thailand?
3.8k36203y
Do I need to keep the retirement funds in my Thai bank account for 2 months before applying for the Non-O visa?
1.5k6214y
Do my husband and I need separate bank accounts and combined amounts for our retirement visa in Thailand?
5.1k52219y
Do I need a Non-O visa to apply for a retirement visa in Thailand and what documentation is required?
4k4479y
What are the requirements and process for obtaining a retirement visa in Thailand while on a 60-day tourist visa?
4.1k34319y

Resources

Need help with your retirement visa?