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What are the requirements and challenges for applying for a Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) for unmarried partners from Germany?
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My partner and I are planning to move to Thailand, and we have a few questions about applying for the DTV (Destination Thailand Visa). We would really appreciate any advice or experiences from people who have been in a similar situation, especially those who applied from Germany.
As far as we understand, the main requirements include:
* 500,000 THB in financial proof per person
* Bank statements covering the last three months
* A criminal record certificate
* Proof of residence in Germany
* A passport photo
* Proof of remote work or a professional portfolio
* The visa application and a fee of approximately €350 per person
We have a few questions about how to handle our specific situation:
Application fee and rejected applications
1. If we pay the application fee and our DTV application is rejected because we cannot provide sufficient documentation, is the fee refundable, or do we lose the money?
Financial proof – 500,000 THB per person
One of us can provide proof of sufficient funds that have been in the bank account for several months. The other person currently cannot meet this requirement independently.
We are not married, so we cannot simply assume that one person’s financial proof will be accepted for both applicants.
2. Has anyone successfully applied in this situation?
3. Is it possible to use a financial sponsorship or a letter of support from an unmarried partner?
4. Would transferring money to the other person’s account be accepted, and if so, how long would the funds need to be in the account before applying?
5. Would the authorities require the full amount to be held separately by each applicant?
Remote work proof / professional portfolio
We have both quit our jobs in Germany because we want to build our own online business and work remotely while living in Thailand.
However, we are still in the early stages of building the business and do not yet have an established business history, long-term client contracts, or several years of income records.
6. Has anyone successfully obtained a DTV in a similar situation?
7. What documents did you submit as proof of remote work?
8. Would a portfolio, business plan, website, social media presence, initial client agreements, or other evidence of a business in development be sufficient?
9. If you are just starting your own business and do not yet have a long track record, what would you recommend submitting?
We would especially appreciate examples of documents that were actually accepted.
Criminal record certificate and proof of residence
We understand that certain documents, such as the criminal record certificate and proof of residence, may need to be recent.
Since we are planning to deregister from Germany, we want to make sure we obtain the correct documents before leaving.
10. Can we apply for these documents shortly before deregistering from Germany and still use them three or four months later?
11. Is there a specific validity period required by the Thai authorities or the embassy handling the application?
12. Does deregistering from Germany affect whether these documents can still be used for a DTV application?
Deregistering from Germany, health insurance and taxes
For those who moved from Germany to Thailand:
13. Did you explicitly inform the German tax office (Finanzamt) that you were leaving, or was deregistration with the local registration office (Einwohnermeldeamt) sufficient in your situation?
14. How did you handle your German health insurance? Did you notify them that you were moving abroad and provide proof of deregistration?
15. Were there any other authorities or insurance providers you had to contact before leaving Germany?
We would appreciate hearing about your personal experiences and any important steps we should not overlook.
Contacting the Thai embassy or consulate
We believe the Thai Consulate in Frankfurt is responsible for our application, but we are not entirely sure how much guidance they can provide.
16. Has anyone contacted the Thai Consulate in Frankfurt directly with questions about their individual circumstances?
17. Were they helpful in explaining which documents would be accepted?
18. Is it worth contacting them before applying, especially regarding the financial proof and remote work requirements?
We would rather clarify everything beforehand than spend approximately €350 per person on an application that may not meet the requirements.
Thank you so much in advance for any advice, personal experiences, or recommendations! 🙏
We know that requirements can vary depending on the application location, so experiences from people who applied through the Thai Consulate in Frankfurt or elsewhere in Germany would be especially helpful.
My partner and I are planning to move to Thailand, and we have a few questions about applying for the DTV (Destination Thailand Visa). We would really appreciate any advice or experiences from people who have been in a similar situation, especially those who applied from Germany.
As far as we understand, the main requirements include:
* 500,000 THB in financial proof per person
* Bank statements covering the last three months
* A criminal record certificate
* Proof of residence in Germany
* A passport photo
* Proof of remote work or a professional portfolio
* The visa application and a fee of approximately €350 per person
We have a few questions about how to handle our specific situation:
Application fee and rejected applications
1. If we pay the application fee and our DTV application is rejected because we cannot provide sufficient documentation, is the fee refundable, or do we lose the money?
Financial proof – 500,000 THB per person
One of us can provide proof of sufficient funds that have been in the bank account for several months. The other person currently cannot meet this requirement independently.
We are not married, so we cannot simply assume that one person’s financial proof will be accepted for both applicants.
2. Has anyone successfully applied in this situation?
3. Is it possible to use a financial sponsorship or a letter of support from an unmarried partner?
4. Would transferring money to the other person’s account be accepted, and if so, how long would the funds need to be in the account before applying?
5. Would the authorities require the full amount to be held separately by each applicant?
Remote work proof / professional portfolio
We have both quit our jobs in Germany because we want to build our own online business and work remotely while living in Thailand.
However, we are still in the early stages of building the business and do not yet have an established business history, long-term client contracts, or several years of income records.
6. Has anyone successfully obtained a DTV in a similar situation?
7. What documents did you submit as proof of remote work?
8. Would a portfolio, business plan, website, social media presence, initial client agreements, or other evidence of a business in development be sufficient?
9. If you are just starting your own business and do not yet have a long track record, what would you recommend submitting?
We would especially appreciate examples of documents that were actually accepted.
Criminal record certificate and proof of residence
We understand that certain documents, such as the criminal record certificate and proof of residence, may need to be recent.
Since we are planning to deregister from Germany, we want to make sure we obtain the correct documents before leaving.
10. Can we apply for these documents shortly before deregistering from Germany and still use them three or four months later?
11. Is there a specific validity period required by the Thai authorities or the embassy handling the application?
12. Does deregistering from Germany affect whether these documents can still be used for a DTV application?
Deregistering from Germany, health insurance and taxes
For those who moved from Germany to Thailand:
13. Did you explicitly inform the German tax office (Finanzamt) that you were leaving, or was deregistration with the local registration office (Einwohnermeldeamt) sufficient in your situation?
14. How did you handle your German health insurance? Did you notify them that you were moving abroad and provide proof of deregistration?
15. Were there any other authorities or insurance providers you had to contact before leaving Germany?
We would appreciate hearing about your personal experiences and any important steps we should not overlook.
Contacting the Thai embassy or consulate
We believe the Thai Consulate in Frankfurt is responsible for our application, but we are not entirely sure how much guidance they can provide.
16. Has anyone contacted the Thai Consulate in Frankfurt directly with questions about their individual circumstances?
17. Were they helpful in explaining which documents would be accepted?
18. Is it worth contacting them before applying, especially regarding the financial proof and remote work requirements?
We would rather clarify everything beforehand than spend approximately €350 per person on an application that may not meet the requirements.
Thank you so much in advance for any advice, personal experiences, or recommendations! 🙏
We know that requirements can vary depending on the application location, so experiences from people who applied through the Thai Consulate in Frankfurt or elsewhere in Germany would be especially helpful.
Summary so far
A couple planning to move to Thailand seeks advice on applying for the DTV (Destination Thailand Visa) from Germany. They discuss the main requirements such as financial proof, documentation, and potential issues regarding their unmarried status. Questions include whether the application fee is refundable, the necessity of individual financial proof, possibilities for financial sponsorship, remote work documentation, and how deregistration from Germany affects their application. Responses from the community highlight that each applicant must meet the financial requirements separately, sponsorship from an unmarried partner may not be accepted, and undocumented startups may struggle to prove remote work qualifications. Furthermore, the Thai Consulate's limited support is noted, leading to concerns about transparency in the requirements.
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Lola ********
It doesn’t sound like you’re a candidate for DTV as a freelancer. Why not do it through a course?
Worawong *************
Perhaps DTV visa isn’t the best choice for your term and condition, many people choose Non-B visa (and Work Permit) as it is the easiest choice of approval at a much lower cost, while can actually work online (on laptop) in Thailand.
That’s what my clients have been doing since 2016.
That’s what my clients have been doing since 2016.
Welsh******
You haven’t got a business. Or work online. 🤷‍♂️ it’s all dreams. Try soft power route.
Nongnuch ********
1. If we pay the application fee and our DTV application is rejected because we cannot provide sufficient documentation, is the fee refundable, or do we lose the money?
*** you will lose the money
We are not married, so we cannot simply assume that one person’s financial proof will be accepted for both applicants.
*** If you are not married, everybody needs to apply for himself
2. Is it possible to use a financial sponsorship or a letter of support from an unmarried partner?
***no, this is not possible, your “partner” needs to be your child or your official spouse
3. Would transferring money to the other person’s account be accepted, and if so, how long would the funds need to be in the account before applying?
*** not, this is not accepted
4. Would the authorities require the full amount to be held separately by each applicant?
*** yes, of course
Remote work proof / professional portfolio . . . we are still in the early stages of building the business and do not yet have an established business history, long-term client contracts, or several years of income records.
*** this means your portfolio has ZERO chances to get accepted. You need to prove you have been living on remote work for quite some time before
9. If you are just starting your own business and do not yet have a long track record, what would you recommend submitting?
*** submit NOTHING because it will be useless, your application will be rejected
9. Criminal record certificate and proof of residence
We understand that certain documents, such as the criminal record certificate and proof of residence, may need to be recent.
Since we are planning to deregister from Germany, we want to make sure we obtain the correct documents before leaving.
*** See above your application will be rejected
10. Can we apply for these documents shortly before deregistering from Germany and still use them three or four months later?
*** no, you cannot, you need to stay resident in Germany until you get the visa issued
11. Is there a specific validity period required by the Thai authorities or the embassy handling the application?
*** No, there isn’t. It takes as long as it takes, and you need to wait until the visa application gets issued or rejected.
2. Does deregistering from Germany affect whether these documents can still be used for a DTV application?
*** No, a DTV once issued, is good for 5 years
Deregistering from Germany, health insurance and taxes
For those who moved from Germany to Thailand:
13. Did you explicitly inform the German tax office (Finanzamt) that you were leaving, or was deregistration with the local registration office (Einwohnermeldeamt) sufficient in your situation?
*** You probably need to apply for “unbeschränkte Steuerpflicht” with the Finanzamt Neubrandenburg
14. How did you handle your German health insurance? Did you notify them that you were moving abroad and provide proof of deregistration?
*** Your German health insurance does not pay for anything that happens outside of the EU
Some private health insurances pay from between 40% and 70%
15. Were there any other authorities or insurance providers you had to contact before leaving Germany?
**** if you have never started to gather information regarding this, I think you should NOT go anywhere in the World but stay registered in Germany
15. We believe the Thai Consulate in Frankfurt is responsible for our application, but we are not entirely sure how much guidance they can provide.
16. Has anyone contacted the Thai Consulate in Frankfurt directly with questions about their individual circumstances?
**** the Frankfurt consulate will NOT pick up the phone and they will NOT reply to any emails sent, regarding visa applications
17. Were they helpful in explaining which documents would be accepted?
*** no, they are absolutely NOT helpful, they do not respond to visa-related questions.
18. Is it worth contacting them before applying, especially regarding the financial proof and remote work requirements?
*** The Frankfurt Consulate will NOT reply to you
And please be aware when setting up your business: in case you have done remote work for your clients in Europe, the Thai Embassy is likely going to ask you for bills these clients have paid to you. In case these bills do not contain the German VAT included in the total, you can get accused for tax evasion.
*** you will lose the money
We are not married, so we cannot simply assume that one person’s financial proof will be accepted for both applicants.
*** If you are not married, everybody needs to apply for himself
2. Is it possible to use a financial sponsorship or a letter of support from an unmarried partner?
***no, this is not possible, your “partner” needs to be your child or your official spouse
3. Would transferring money to the other person’s account be accepted, and if so, how long would the funds need to be in the account before applying?
*** not, this is not accepted
4. Would the authorities require the full amount to be held separately by each applicant?
*** yes, of course
Remote work proof / professional portfolio . . . we are still in the early stages of building the business and do not yet have an established business history, long-term client contracts, or several years of income records.
*** this means your portfolio has ZERO chances to get accepted. You need to prove you have been living on remote work for quite some time before
9. If you are just starting your own business and do not yet have a long track record, what would you recommend submitting?
*** submit NOTHING because it will be useless, your application will be rejected
9. Criminal record certificate and proof of residence
We understand that certain documents, such as the criminal record certificate and proof of residence, may need to be recent.
Since we are planning to deregister from Germany, we want to make sure we obtain the correct documents before leaving.
*** See above your application will be rejected
10. Can we apply for these documents shortly before deregistering from Germany and still use them three or four months later?
*** no, you cannot, you need to stay resident in Germany until you get the visa issued
11. Is there a specific validity period required by the Thai authorities or the embassy handling the application?
*** No, there isn’t. It takes as long as it takes, and you need to wait until the visa application gets issued or rejected.
2. Does deregistering from Germany affect whether these documents can still be used for a DTV application?
*** No, a DTV once issued, is good for 5 years
Deregistering from Germany, health insurance and taxes
For those who moved from Germany to Thailand:
13. Did you explicitly inform the German tax office (Finanzamt) that you were leaving, or was deregistration with the local registration office (Einwohnermeldeamt) sufficient in your situation?
*** You probably need to apply for “unbeschränkte Steuerpflicht” with the Finanzamt Neubrandenburg
14. How did you handle your German health insurance? Did you notify them that you were moving abroad and provide proof of deregistration?
*** Your German health insurance does not pay for anything that happens outside of the EU
Some private health insurances pay from between 40% and 70%
15. Were there any other authorities or insurance providers you had to contact before leaving Germany?
**** if you have never started to gather information regarding this, I think you should NOT go anywhere in the World but stay registered in Germany
15. We believe the Thai Consulate in Frankfurt is responsible for our application, but we are not entirely sure how much guidance they can provide.
16. Has anyone contacted the Thai Consulate in Frankfurt directly with questions about their individual circumstances?
**** the Frankfurt consulate will NOT pick up the phone and they will NOT reply to any emails sent, regarding visa applications
17. Were they helpful in explaining which documents would be accepted?
*** no, they are absolutely NOT helpful, they do not respond to visa-related questions.
18. Is it worth contacting them before applying, especially regarding the financial proof and remote work requirements?
*** The Frankfurt Consulate will NOT reply to you
And please be aware when setting up your business: in case you have done remote work for your clients in Europe, the Thai Embassy is likely going to ask you for bills these clients have paid to you. In case these bills do not contain the German VAT included in the total, you can get accused for tax evasion.
Kool *******
If your new business is less than a few months old you will have problems. Because you are not married each of you will be treated as not knowing each other, and you can't sponsor their financial requirements. From what you described you won't qualify.
Phil ******
@Lukas ****
the DTV is not designed for residence
DTV_Be*******
No refunds, you both need 500k, financial sponsorship usually doesn’t work, usually in your account for 3 months, yes, full amount held by both, proof of work: contracts, tax forms, etc. the embassy will provide almost no guidance.
Henrik *****
Most of the answers can be answered by thoroughly reading the website of the Thai Embassy you will apply at, which is a lot more trustworthy source than facebook.
The is also a manual in the top right corner of the website you apply at, and you can start the application and stop it temporarily if facing doubt, and then late continue from where you left off.
The is also a manual in the top right corner of the website you apply at, and you can start the application and stop it temporarily if facing doubt, and then late continue from where you left off.
LoyalB*******
zu viele Fragen in einem Post!
grundsätzlich:
DTV ist ein Touristenvisum für häufige Einreisen, nicht dafür gedacht dort dauerhaft zu leben (auch nicht für 5 Jahre an Stück).
Beantragung ist jetzt nur noch möglich, solange ihr euch auch in D. aufhaltet, also vor der Abmeldung, weil nach Abmeldung müsst ihr ja auch innerhalb von 7 Tagen erst mal aus dem Land raus.
500.000 baht müssen bei jedem Antragsteller für mind. 3 Monate auf dem eigenen Konto liegen, Sponsorletter geht da nicht (nur für Dependants möglich).
Zum anlaufenden Remote-job kann ich nichts beitragen.
13. ja, unbedingt Bescheid geben.
14. ja, unbedingt abmelden, sonst könnte die Versicherungspflicht weiterlaufen, könnte dann noch Jahre später zu einer Nachzahlung führen.
15. kommt auf die Versicherungen an, viele setzen voraus, dass man eine Wohnsitz in D. hat., steht in den Versicherungsbedingungen. Ggf. beitragsfrei stellen.
grundsätzlich:
DTV ist ein Touristenvisum für häufige Einreisen, nicht dafür gedacht dort dauerhaft zu leben (auch nicht für 5 Jahre an Stück).
Beantragung ist jetzt nur noch möglich, solange ihr euch auch in D. aufhaltet, also vor der Abmeldung, weil nach Abmeldung müsst ihr ja auch innerhalb von 7 Tagen erst mal aus dem Land raus.
500.000 baht müssen bei jedem Antragsteller für mind. 3 Monate auf dem eigenen Konto liegen, Sponsorletter geht da nicht (nur für Dependants möglich).
Zum anlaufenden Remote-job kann ich nichts beitragen.
13. ja, unbedingt Bescheid geben.
14. ja, unbedingt abmelden, sonst könnte die Versicherungspflicht weiterlaufen, könnte dann noch Jahre später zu einer Nachzahlung führen.
15. kommt auf die Versicherungen an, viele setzen voraus, dass man eine Wohnsitz in D. hat., steht in den Versicherungsbedingungen. Ggf. beitragsfrei stellen.
Allan ********
I would suggest you look at how you word your application because if it's as long winded as this story the Thai Embassy will be totally lost.
Wannikea *********
Asked and answered in Thai Visa group...
I suggest you use the search tool from the group main page with keywords Germany Frankfurt remote worker whatever. Nobody's here to be your research assistant. As far as Thailand is concerned you and your partner have zero relationship, you will each have to have independent applications. So while you're getting your money together you can do a lot of reading in this group on how to make a successful application. A core foundational requirement is the funds. No wiggle room for your situation.
I suggest you use the search tool from the group main page with keywords Germany Frankfurt remote worker whatever. Nobody's here to be your research assistant. As far as Thailand is concerned you and your partner have zero relationship, you will each have to have independent applications. So while you're getting your money together you can do a lot of reading in this group on how to make a successful application. A core foundational requirement is the funds. No wiggle room for your situation.
Andi ***********
You lose the money if rejected due to insufficient funds etc. You need to.apply separately as you are not married.
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