What are the recent changes to visa rules in Thailand regarding DTV holders and opening a TrueMoney account?

Darren Grist If you get stopped at immigration they tell yo next time get visa, that is what he has done. Applied for the correct visa for his planned trip. That's the whole point. he's not come on exempt.

Paul Thomas i think you are delusional with your statement, but hey, each to his own opinion

Lee Harris Utter bollacks.....I'm strictly a tourist but last 3 trips I stayed 77 days 73 days and 60 days...first two obviously extended....all were visa exempt......on 3rd entry guy politely said might be an idea to get SETV next time....I politely responsed "of course no problem"......now I could obtain the retirement option visa but why should I ??? I DONT want to retire to Thailand or anywhere for that matter......This coming September I will be obtaining SETV and extend followed by trip to Vietnam where I'll apply for 2nd SETV and extend......The METV is an option but the requirements dont suit me per se

Todd you're making more of this than necessary .......many people have private income and can stay extended periods of months at a time......Even I looked at this DTV option but by the book I'd be lying if I started signing up for cookery courses etc......an SETV or METV is perfectly acceptable for many "tourists"

Dave Flago His past gives the game away. I am sure you read like the rest of us they are really clamping down on people who spend a long time in Thailand without proper visa, leave and come back within days.

Abey Abey if he follows all the rules to get metv no problems .why shouldn’t he get it 🙄🫣🤔

Lee Harris I would like to join the opposing side then. We skipped a roadtrip to Laos (3-5 days) this winter precisely because of the ambiguity and uncertainty of reentry. A brief trip to a neighbouring country is perfectly normal.

Lee Harris There are no new "visa rules" and there is no new law.

There is no “reset”, and most of all, there is no “reset” when a new calendar year begins.

There is no limit of two visa-exemptions within a 1-year period, and definitely not within a calendar year. This is simply not true.

What has changed, mandated from above, is the strict scrutinizing of your number of visa-exempt entries and the thorough check on "visa runners" (actually they meant to say "back-to-back border runners").The new approach taken by border officials is intended to ensure that the option to do a "visa run" is not abused.

Now as far as regarding extensions on visa-exempt entries, it does appear that the Immigration offices are indeed only issuing 7-day extensions if you already got a previous 30-day extension on a visa exempt entry. The count is 60 + 30 + 60 + 7 = 157 days maximum within a 1-year period, regardless of whether you arrive by air or land.

This is not standardized. The decision is made upon the discretion of the individual immigration officer, and your experience might vary from it.

There are some reports of tourist extensions on top of the 60-days being denied for those having arrived across a land border, while there have been some cases under the same circumstances where an extension was granted.

Fact is right now, it is subjective and up to the decision of the officer you are standing in front of when you wish to enter the country. They decide if you are a "real tourist" or if they think you are milking the visa exempt entry program.

There is just no clear directive as far as what's what, there are no official rules, however after a few interviews with Immigration top officers, a few basic patterns have crystallized.

Some people with a 30-days extension already on a previous visa exempt entry reported getting another 30-days extension without any issue, however some only got a 7-days extension issued. Again, your experience might vary from that.

The 7-day extension is a REAL extension. It is not the same as the stamp "application for extension denied, you have 7 days to leave the Kingdom" even if for some people it looks like the “7-days grace period”. I have already seen the stamp of a 7-days extension, it takes up half of a passport page.

Visa-exempt entries themselves are not limited, even though some believe that unlimited visa-free entries are possible by air. It is irrelevant since July 15, 2024, if you enter via a land border or by air.

Visa-exempt entries are not limited to two entries per year. This is a misconception, and some agents and lawyers spread this information to make profit from panicked people.

Many agents and Immigration Volunteers are warning you should not believe those alleged news telling you that visa-exempt entries are limited to two per year. It simply is not true.

In the past, visa-exempt entries were limited to two across a land border, this rule was discontinued on July 15th, 2024.

On the paper, visa-exempt entries by air or across land and sea were “unlimited” after this date.

Attention: the wording “unlimited” is not a fixed rule of Immigration – THEY decide on an individual decision when your “personal limit” is up.

On a few conditions, multiple visa-exempt entries are possible - like four, five or even more times, if it is apparent that you do not milk the system.

The entry history in your passport and your profile on Immigration’s Central Computer must prove that your stays were short-term holidays (like only 2-4 weeks).

Some Immigration officers will tell you that the total number of visa-exempt days should not exceed 150 days, some will tell you the limit is 157 days. It remains unclear – because there is no official rule, there is no official limit. There are only guidelines on how to treat repeated entries.

The best proof that you are not milking the visa-exemption system is when you can show that you returned to your home country between each stay, or stayed abroad for a long time. And when you can show an onward travel proof.

The new approach was to prohibit "visa runs," where you only entered a neighboring country briefly and then immediately re-entered.

You must be able to prove your short holiday at the Immigration counter—for example, with proof of onward travel or a return ticket. A border official would then rather consider you being a "genuine" tourist based on short holiday trips within a year. They expect that you never maximized any of these visa-exempt holidays.

What is crystal-clear: "per year" means "within a one-year period”. Some people still say it means “calendar year”, yet this does not make much sense. The count is based on a rolling year.

Those who want to play safe should obtain a single-entry tourist visa in advance for stays of up to 60 days, with the option to extend for 30 more days.

ATTENTION: obtaining a tourist visa after you have accumulated a few visa exempt stays, does NOT “clean the slate”.

Touristic entries on a tourist visa will also be frowned upon when you start to misuse them. To use a tourist visa directly after you have maximized visa-exempt stays, does not free you from the obligations. The Immigration officer won’t be fooled.

For people who like to spend half a year in South East Asia and who like to make Thailand the start for other travels, the 6-months multi-entry Tourist Visa is the perfect choice

Greg Alexander neither I wrote anything like that

@Thaimer *****

There are no new "visa rules" and there is no new law.

There is no “reset”, and most of all, there is no “reset” when a new calendar year begins.

There is no limit of two visa-exemptions within a 1-year period, and definitely not within a calendar year. This is simply not true.

What has changed, mandated from above, is the strict scrutinizing of your number of visa-exempt entries and the thorough check on "visa runners" (actually they meant to say "back-to-back border runners").The new approach taken by border officials is intended to ensure that the option to do a "visa run" is not abused.

Now as far as regarding extensions on visa-exempt entries, it does appear that the Immigration offices are indeed only issuing 7-day extensions if you already got a previous 30-day extension on a visa exempt entry. The count is 60 + 30 + 60 + 7 = 157 days maximum within a 1-year period, regardless of whether you arrive by air or land.

This is not standardized. The decision is made upon the discretion of the individual immigration officer, and your experience might vary from it.

There are some reports of tourist extensions on top of the 60-days being denied for those having arrived across a land border, while there have been some cases under the same circumstances where an extension was granted.

Fact is right now, it is subjective and up to the decision of the officer you are standing in front of when you wish to enter the country. They decide if you are a "real tourist" or if they think you are milking the visa exempt entry program.

There is just no clear directive as far as what's what, there are no official rules, however after a few interviews with Immigration top officers, a few basic patterns have crystallized.

Some people with a 30-days extension already on a previous visa exempt entry reported getting another 30-days extension without any issue, however some only got a 7-days extension issued. Again, your experience might vary from that.

The 7-day extension is a REAL extension. It is not the same as the stamp "application for extension denied, you have 7 days to leave the Kingdom" even if for some people it looks like the “7-days grace period”. I have already seen the stamp of a 7-days extension, it takes up half of a passport page.

Visa-exempt entries themselves are not limited, even though some believe that unlimited visa-free entries are possible by air. It is irrelevant since July 15, 2024, if you enter via a land border or by air.

Visa-exempt entries are not limited to two entries per year. This is a misconception, and some agents and lawyers spread this information to make profit from panicked people.

Many agents and Immigration Volunteers are warning you should not believe those alleged news telling you that visa-exempt entries are limited to two per year. It simply is not true.

In the past, visa-exempt entries were limited to two across a land border, this rule was discontinued on July 15th, 2024.

On the paper, visa-exempt entries by air or across land and sea were “unlimited” after this date.

Attention: the wording “unlimited” is not a fixed rule of Immigration – THEY decide on an individual decision when your “personal limit” is up.

On a few conditions, multiple visa-exempt entries are possible - like four, five or even more times, if it is apparent that you do not milk the system.

The entry history in your passport and your profile on Immigration’s Central Computer must prove that your stays were short-term holidays (like only 2-4 weeks).

Some Immigration officers will tell you that the total number of visa-exempt days should not exceed 150 days, some will tell you the limit is 157 days. It remains unclear – because there is no official rule, there is no official limit. There are only guidelines on how to treat repeated entries.

The best proof that you are not milking the visa-exemption system is when you can show that you returned to your home country between each stay, or stayed abroad for a long time. And when you can show an onward travel proof.

The new approach was to prohibit "visa runs," where you only entered a neighboring country briefly and then immediately re-entered.

You must be able to prove your short holiday at the Immigration counter—for example, with proof of onward travel or a return ticket. A border official would then rather consider you being a "genuine" tourist based on short holiday trips within a year. They expect that you never maximized any of these visa-exempt holidays.

What is crystal-clear: "per year" means "within a one-year period”. Some people still say it means “calendar year”, yet this does not make much sense. The count is based on a rolling year.

Those who want to play safe should obtain a single-entry tourist visa in advance for stays of up to 60 days, with the option to extend for 30 more days.

ATTENTION: obtaining a tourist visa after you have accumulated a few visa exempt stays, does NOT “clean the slate”.

Touristic entries on a tourist visa will also be frowned upon when you start to misuse them. To use a tourist visa directly after you have maximized visa-exempt stays, does not free you from the obligations. The Immigration officer won’t be fooled.

For people who like to spend half a year in South East Asia and who like to make Thailand the start for other travels, the 6-months multi-entry Tourist Visa is the perfect choice