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What are the options for applying for a Non-Immigrant O Visa for retirement in Thailand while living in China?

William *******
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In China, Thai consulate is telling me there is no non-immigrant O visa for "retirement", only for visiting wife or relatives, and existing Thai visa application is pending until documents for O-A application are submitted..... I'm not Chinese, just living and working here. What do I do now?
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The community discussion revolves around the options available for applying for a Non-Immigrant O Visa for retirement purposes while currently residing in China. The consensus is that the term 'retirement visa' is often confused, as there isn't a specific visa labeled as such in Thai immigration law. Instead, the Non-O Visa can be issued for those over 50, generally indicating retirement. However, several commenters noted that requirements can vary significantly by consulate, and that proof of a pension is often necessary. Miscommunication regarding the visa type between the applicant and the consulate is common, with suggestions to check specific consulate requirements and to approach the application with clarity on the terminology used for retirement. Overall, applicants may need to provide financial proof and possibly consider agents to facilitate the visa process.
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William *******
William *******
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As of today. local consulate guy has doubled down. O visa (retirement), he says, is only for foreigners with family in Thailand or business interests in Thailand. He says O-A is the only option for me. I called the Shanghai consulate and they said, without hearing any details, he's wrong, and I should call the Beijing Embassy if I want any correction. It's the close of business right now so I emailed instead. Will call them tomorrow. Insert opining to the heavens here.
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
Well, some Thai embassies - for example the Royal Thai Embassy Vienna, Austria - will insist that you already receive a pension, or they will tell you to apply for the Non-Imm-O/A Longstay Visa instead. How the Thai embassy in your country handles this, you need to check beforehand. It seems that the Chinese embassy or consulate which is handling William James' application, requires him to show that he is a "real" pensioner
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
Of course there is such a thing as a “Non-O retirement visa”.

I am amazed how careless people use the word “Retirement Visa”.

Do you mean the 90-days Retirement Visa or do you mean the 1-year Retirement Extension?

Actually, the term “retirement visa” can mean seven (7) different visas and stay permits, it depends what people like to say, be it wrong or not.

With kind regards and thanks to Robert Lagas, who wrote it up originally, and whose original text I have only marginally altered.

Once more, because people try to give advice based on what they think is a "Retirement Visa"

First of all, you do not have to be retired to apply for this visa. You however need to be 50 years or older.

Well, some Thai embassies will insist that you already receive a pension, or they will tell you to apply for the Non-Imm-O/A Longstay Visa instead. How the Thai embassy in your country handles this, you need to check beforehand.

Second is that all options have DIFFERENT rules, regulations and requirements.

So please read and refrain from giving incorrect advice by mixing up and confusing the requirements for different types of visa or extensions of stay.

What is a retirement visa?

It is a phrase used by foreigners and Immigration and it could be seven different types of visa or stay permits, with different rules, regulations and requirements

OR

it could even be an 1 year Extension of Stay based on being over 50 years of age and willing to sit out the rest of their life inside Thailand.

It is easy to type “retirement visa”, but very difficult to understand which option the person refers to

Options are:

1. Single Entry Non Immigrant O visa based on being over 50 years of age

2. Multiple Entry Non Immigrant O visa based on being over 50 years of age (it got discontinued by October 2023 and is not available any more)

3. Non Immigrant O visa based on being over 50 years of age without entry by conversion at local immigration office

4. Non Immigrant O-A visa (Long Stay)

5. Non Immigrant O-X visa

6. Long Term Residency (LTR) visa

7. Extension of Stay based on being over 50 years of age and willing to sit out the rest of their life inside Thailand (stamp from Immigration, which is not a visa)

ONLY for options 3, 5 and 7 the applicant needs a bank account in Thailand or a Certificate of Income from their Embassy.

Option 2 cannot be applied for any more, since all Thai Embassies and Consulates took it out of the E-visa program.

Option 3 is applied for by conversion of your Visa Exempt Entry or Tourist Visa at your local Immigration Office inside Thailand.

Option 6 is applied for with support of BOI Thailand

Option 7 is applied for at your local Immigration Office AFTER you used a Non-Immigrant visa.

Other options are applied for at a Thai Consulate OR for those countries who are legit, on-line.

Thanks for reading this long explanation.
Ossie *********
Ossie *********
Come in on a 60 day visa and use agent to get your O visa but you have to come in on a 60 or 90 day visa that you can get at your thai consulate or look at 5 year DTV visa
Simon *******
Simon *******
RIGHT let get this right, yes there are different names for different retirement visas none are call a retirement visa ,most people get a none O 90 day visa then enter Thailand and follow the things they need to do to get a 12 month extension and renewal the extension every year,you must do the Non O visa online ,once in Thailand you open a bank account with Kasikorn bank NOT Bangkok bank ,to open the account you will require a tm30 from where you are staying and a certificate of residence from you nearest immigration office.

When the account is open you will have 2 options

Option 1 pay 800,000bht into the bank and leave it there 2 month then apply for you 1 year extension.

Option 2.

Get an agent to sort the extension for you they can pay the 800,000bht into your account and get the 12 month extension almost immediately, obviously this will cost.

I hope this clears up any confusion by previous post.
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
Non-O for stay no longer than 90 days.
Simon *******
Simon *******
Lynnette Munoz but you can get a 1 year extension once you have entered
David *******
David *******
@Si***
— yeah. it’s “nit picky” for sure, but it’s a “gotcha that’ll get ya” to know it’s an “Extension of Stay” on a Non-O Visa [for retirees over 50]. It MUST be renewed yearly inside Thailand. If / when you leave Thailand 🇹🇭 during your Extension of Stay you also MUST purchase the Single or Multiple-Entry “Pass” at BKK [usually takes ~1 hour+] before you depart the country, otherwise your Extension of Stay (and underlying visa) are completely null and void — and you must re-apply from outside Thailand again and meet all of the criteria. Also note: one cannot legally work while in Thailand on a Non-O visa or Extension of Stay. Upon reentry to Thailand 🇹🇭 you also must complete the TDAC and have 20,000 Baht on your person. I hope this helps. 😎
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
Simon Adams I know. The visa you apply for is for 90 days. The extension is a permitted stay applied for after arriving, and is not a visa.
Simon *******
Simon *******
Lynnette Munoz technically yes but what about the renewal after 12 month ,it a bit nit picking to call it an extension to stay ,technically its a 12 month visa
Stuart ***********
Stuart ***********
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
Stuart Chiverton dang! It clearly says you have to be a real pensioner who is receiving a state pension. It could be that when you apply in China, you need to be a "real" pensioner in order to apply for the Non-Imm-O Visa. They seem to have set the rule like the Thai Embassy in Vienna, Austria. They, too, require you to be a "real" pensioner who is already receiving a monthly pension, and can prove it. So in case you do not receive a pension, yet, you will be asked to apply for the Non-Imm-O/A visa instead
Stuart ***********
Stuart ***********
Andreas Mueller I agree it is very badly worded. If they did reject you your application I would fly to Vietnam for a vacation and apply for the Thai non-O visa from there.
Jorge ****
Jorge ****
Stuart Chiverton dang! Thanks for posting this screenshot. I knew that one of the alternate financial requirements was 800k thb in a bank, but it is the first time I learn that it had to be in the bank for *3 months* with statements to prove it, not just possession.
William *******
William *******
OP
Application was made online. Application was for Non-immigrant (0). Chosen "purpose of visit was "Retirement for foreigners aged 50 or older..." Application is currently waiting for me to satisfy a request for further documents (health check, proof of insurance, non-criminal record.... all the O-A stuff)
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
William James are you a "real" pensioner, yet? Do you receive a monthly pension and did you upload proof of it into the e-visa application? Well, it could be that when you apply in China, you need to be a "real" pensioner in order to apply for the Non-Imm-O Visa. They seem to have set the rule like the Thai Embassy in Vienna, Austria. They, too, require you to be a "real" pensioner who is already receiving a monthly pension, and can prove it. So in case you do not receive a pension, yet, you will be asked to apply for the Non-Imm-O/A visa instead
Jackie ********
Jackie ********
William James We just arrived in Thailand on a non 0 visa and chose over 50 retirement as our choice. I requested them via the Thai online portal. They asked for proof we each had over 800,000thb ( around (£19,000 each) in our British bank accounts. Proof of British address via a utility bill. 3 days later we got the visas via email. . The Thai visa OA is for multiple entry the visa O is for single entry. We had to use a visa agent to get our bank accounts opened. £30 each and a letter from this agency immediately opened the bank doors. I realised they all earn from this method. The next step is to go back one month before the visa ends and apply for the one year extension. We realise for a smooth ride, paying the agent is best. Whoever told you visa O doesn’t exist is wrong in fact it’s the commonest method used.
Ant ***********
Ant ***********
William James

The last 3 sentences all relate to requirements for the Non-OA

These are not associated with requirements for Non-O

You can try again

The Evisa portal allows you to have more than one live application & they are automatically deleted after 14 days
William *******
William *******
OP
Ant W Tailor Would you recommend I change the "Apply at" entry? Choose a different consulate/embassy?
Sue **********
Sue **********
William James you have to select the place/city or whatever, were you are at the moment in China and then the Thai embassy you have to apply with will be chosen for you, I doubt you can change it yourself
John **********
John **********
You don't apply at a consulate, you apply on line. This is the option you are looking for
William *******
William *******
OP
Yes. That one. Did that one in the online application. Application came back with a request for criminal record, proof of insurance, health check, etc
John **********
John **********
@William ******
these are not required for a Non-O, are you sure you didn't select "Long Stay (O-A)..."
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
William James looks like you did non-OA. Instead of Non-O.
John **********
John **********
@William ******
I can read the headline but it looks like it's not submitted
William *******
William *******
OP
@John *********
Huh? Non-immigrant O. Not O-A. Or am I missing something?
John **********
John **********
@William ******
doesn't say much does it
William *******
William *******
OP
John **********
John **********
@William ******
it doesn't say that on the dashboard though. Maybe you could screenshot to show us, removing any personal info?
William *******
William *******
OP
Already called them to ask and they said directly, if my purpose is retirement, then it has to be O-A visa
William *******
William *******
OP
I don't want to be that guy, but it seems like I did the application right, and the consulate is processing it wrong
William *******
William *******
OP
Lynnette Munoz Nope. Just checked on the dashboard. "Non-Immigrant Visa O)"
William *******
William *******
OP
@John *********
Yep. That's the one I did\
Jorge ****
Jorge ****
The Thai consulate is correct. There has *never* been a Non-O "retirement" visa for Thailand. You can, however, apply for a Non-O visa based on your being 50 years old or more, and you can declare "retirement" as its purpose. Be aware that local employment is prohibited with this type of visa. They could not care if you are working or employed outside the country.
Jeffrey *********
Jeffrey *********
Jorge Jo I guess no one told Thai immigration that there's no such thing as a Non-O retirement visa...
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
Jeffrey Schwenk I don't see anything that is contradicting. You received a 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa on Immigration inside Thailand, by having applied for the "change of visa type" from a touristic entry to an initial 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa. You did not arrive in Thailand on the 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa, you applied for it inside Thailand. What you got stamped, actually is both (!!) - it is a real visa, and it also is a real stay permit. . . . .Yet, there should be another stamp in your passport if you had the 90-days stay permit out of the 90-days Non-Imm-O Visa extended to one year. This 1-year extension is NOT a "visa extension". A visa cannot get extended. The one-year extension simply is an "extended stay permit".
Jorge ****
Jorge ****
Jeffrey Schwenk I suppose the rubber stamp proves me wrong. On the other hand, the OP stated he was told such category did not exist. I myself have yet to see an official website that refers to a visa based on 50+ yo as "retirement". Am also aware that no matter what we say, the 50+ yo visa will continue to be commonly called "retirement".
William *******
William *******
OP
Jorge Jo is the thaievisa.go.th official? On their /visa/retirement page, the Non-Immigrant O is at least described as "Retirement for foreigners aged 50...." The O-A and O-X are described as long-stay visas. But then my guy at my local consulate says only the O-A is for "retirement". I'm calling him again tomorrow to try and work out, is this his opinion or the policy of the Thai government
William *******
William *******
OP
Congratulations (grumble grumble)
William *******
William *******
OP
oh. Well, I'm over 50. What do I say is the purpose of the application?
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
William James the purpose clearly says not only you need to be over 50, it also says that you must already "receive a state pension". That's the elephant in the room
Jorge ****
Jorge ****
William James the purpose is "retirement" but you cannot call it that because it is not the official name.
Roger **********
Roger **********
Jorge Jo try to approach it as the way the specific embassy website describes it.
Ant ***********
Ant ***********
The Visa needs to be applied for Online

This is what you need to look for
William *******
William *******
OP
I called the consulate and asked. They said their is no non-imm O for retirement
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
William James Well, some Thai embassies, if you apply for the Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa - for example the Royal Thai Embassy Vienna, Austria - will insist that you already receive a pension, or they will tell you to apply for the Non-Imm-O/A Longstay Visa instead.

How the Thai embassy in your country handles this, you need to check beforehand.

It seems that the Chinese embassy or consulate which is handling your application, requires you to show that you are a "real" pensioner. Being over 50 seems to be not enough to make you elegible.
Jorge ****
Jorge ****
William James do not use the word "retirement". Instead, use "50 years or older"
Ant ***********
Ant ***********
William James

Non-O

And

Non-OA are both retirement

What are you wanting to do ?
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
Ant W Tailor you are WRONG. The Non-O/A is NOT for retirement. The Non-Imm-O/A Visa is called LONGSTAY VISA
Ant ***********
Ant ***********
William James

The OA visa involves a lot of checks

The Non-O is the most common

The screen shot I put up earlier is the starting point to apply for a Non-O
William *******
William *******
OP
retire.
William *******
William *******
OP
Yep. Did that. The application now is waiting for me to add health report, non-criminal record, proof of Thai insurance....... all the O-A stuff
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
William James Well, some Thai embassies, if you apply for the Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa - for example the Royal Thai Embassy Vienna, Austria - will insist that you already receive a pension, or they will tell you to apply for the Non-Imm-O/A Longstay Visa instead.

How the Thai embassy in your country handles this, you need to check beforehand.

It seems that the Chinese embassy or consulate which is handling your application, requires you to show that you are a "real" pensioner. Being over 50 seems to be not enough to make you elegible.

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