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What are the experiences of applying for a DTV visa with Muay Thai from the Thai Embassy in Moscow?

Alex *********
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🇹🇭 DTV Soft Power — Thai Embassy in Moscow

A friend from Russia told me that she visited the Thai Embassy in Moscow after completing her DTV visa application and was ready to pay the government visa fee. However, she was reportedly told by a Russian-speaking staff member at the embassy that her application under the Soft Power Program — Muay Thai training in Phuket could not proceed.

She was allegedly told that Muay Thai courses had never been accepted for DTV applications at the Thai Embassy in Moscow, even though she had purchased a 12-month course.

According to her, the staff member also said that she could try applying with a 5-year course paid in full upfront, but that even then, approval was not guaranteed because, according to them, they had never approved a DTV application based on Muay Thai before.

I would like to verify whether this information is actually correct.

Questions for other Muay Thai providers and applicants:

• Have any of your customers successfully received a DTV visa through the Thai Embassy in Moscow using Muay Thai as the Soft Power purpose?

• Has anyone been rejected for this reason?

• Have you had customers successfully obtain a DTV through Moscow using any other Soft Power activity?

• Have other Muay Thai schools experienced the same situation with the Moscow Embassy?

Please share your real experience, preferably with the approximate date of application and the type of Soft Power program used.

Thank you 🙏
Summary so far
A user reports that her friend was unable to proceed with her DTV visa application at the Thai Embassy in Moscow for Muay Thai training, as staff claimed such courses had never been accepted for DTV applications. The friend also learned that even applying with a paid 5-year course did not guarantee approval. The post seeks confirmation from others regarding their experiences with applying for a DTV visa under similar circumstances, particularly anyone using Muay Thai as the Soft Power purpose. The comments reveal frustrations with the inconsistent rules at the embassy and experiences of visa challenges among other applicants.
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Faruk *******
Faruk *******
In fact Dtv visa created for digital nomads and business owners Thai government didn't want to lose digital nomads cash to other Asian and Arab countries.somehow soft power included this list . I highly believe next year soft power will be cut off . And visa owners with soft power will be declined in passport check . No country in world give 5 years to 6 month course
Evgeny ********
Evgeny ********
Yes it’s specific for Russian embassy, a lot of cases like this. Also they do not approve Private Entrepreneurs for worcation type of DTV, only with official employment
EagerLy********
EagerLy********
Who cares about moskowia
swallow********
swallow********
EagerLychee7806 your country is being overrun by foreigners who go after your girls. Worry about your women. Russia doesnt have your weird problems
Александр **********
Александр **********
Why do you need 5 years DTV for 1 year Muay Thai course? ED visa works well for approved Muay Thai clubs.
Alex *********
Alex *********
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@Александр *********
Because most people do not work for Yandex or other companies that can provide the required documentation, they simply do not qualify for the Workcation category. At the same time, many people do not want to use agents and pay large amounts of money for documents that do not reflect their real employment situation.

This can create serious problems later, including additional questions at airports and concerns about how the DTV was obtained and whether the applicant actually met the requirements.

In my view, at the Thai Embassy in Moscow, a large proportion of DTV applications are submitted under the Workcation category if even not all. However, among these applicants, very questionable amount who really genuinely work remotely and can provide authentic real supporting documents. The rest may rely on agents help simply *purchase visa* without having a genuine qualifying employment or remote-work situation, which means they may not actually meet the requirements for this visa category.

This is one possible reason why some Russian and Chinese DTV holders experience additional scrutiny when entering Thailand. When a visa category is repeatedly used by people who do not genuinely meet its requirements, it can lead to greater scrutiny of applicants from those markets and contribute to problems at immigration checkpoints and all this make life harder for all other DTV holders.
Christer *****
Christer *****
The iron curtain closing
Efficient**********
Efficient**********
Just stay in Russia…
swallow********
swallow********
EfficientRabbit7134 just be manipulated by the mainstream media...
FunFlo*******
FunFlo*******
да они там и по ИП, и по софту не принимали еще до изменений, поэтому все и ехали во вьетнам подаваться
Peter ********
Peter ********
Doesn't make any sense..you can look up 100 gyms in the Thailand and they are advertising DTV related course packages.
Alex *********
Alex *********
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@Peter *******
the question remaining there for DTV Soft Power providers from them experience in Moscow Thai embassy

I believe non of them got approved

And Moscow Thai embassy full of agents and who caused this big changes for DTV for abuses of visa system unfortunately.
Dca *****
Dca *****
Perhaps go again in–person to Make Payment in Cash for your DTV E–Visa Fee, as the only indication is that All Categories of DTV E–Visa (Workcation, Thai Soft Power, Dependents) are Available at the Thai Embassy in Moscow

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Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
Apparently this is the case:( there is a russian speaking group that reports a lot of cases like that
Aleksandr ********
Aleksandr ********
...correct.

Regards,...
Conor ****
Conor ****
The question that needs to be asked: Is Thailand worth the headache when it comes down to staying long-term?
Luit *****************
Luit *****************
@Conor *******
Good question.

For staying long term DTV is not the right visa anyway, but even with visa that are meant for long stay, Thai authorities never gives you the feeling you are really welcome.
Giving*******
Giving*******
@Conor *******
nope. I’ve been here 10 months and they change the rules literally every 2-3 weeks.
Luit *****************
Luit *****************
GivingZebra12 They not really change the rules, they change if and how existing rules are enforced.

That means you should not count too much on what is tolerated in the real world at the moment, but always be prepared that they actually can start enforcing every rule in the most foreigner unfriendly way at the moment they like to do so.
idiots******
idiots******
@Conor *******
I have been thinking about this for awhile now. I think most people want to find a place to live and really call it home. I have beem here for 15 yrs and I dont consider this a home. I run a business here and sent every penny overseas. Thailand has been great in the sense life is cheap so I accumulate wealth much faster than if I was in the west. At some point I will purchase a home but it will be where I can settle down without worring of what will happen when the government chamge its mind about visas.
Elías ********
Elías ********
Embassy dependant
Alex *********
Alex *********
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@Elías *******
it's general rules of MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS by government program requirements why cannot be accepted to pay for visa fees even or who working on pay counter has power to decide instead of General Thai Consul?
DTV_Be*******
DTV_Be*******
@Alex ********
final decisions are made at the discretion of the consular in that embassy. If they don’t want to approve, they don’t have to, unfortunately
Aleksandr ********
Aleksandr ********
Alex *********
Alex *********
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DTV_BegPecker no

Staff Russian speaking don't want to accept payment for visa

They must accept and the general consul can make a decision. But if who in power even not get documents and aplication because some workers dont let even pay for visa fee
Ian **********
Ian **********
@Alex ********
like everything in Thailand it is office-dependent. Whether that is a bank, immigration or an embassy. However, here is a video of the DDG of MFA saying Muay Thai is an acceptable soft power for DTV
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Elías ********
Elías ********
@Alex ********
nope. It's always office/embassy dependant. The same goes for inside Thailand as well. Each local office of Immigration in Thailand always have their own rules for visa extensions, renewal and stuff.
Elías ********
Elías ********
You're right about that the final decision is on the consul. If you don't agree to what the counter person told you, contact the consul directly. I'm pretty sure his/her name and email address are publicly available on the Embassy website.
John *****
John *****
@Alex ********
the most consistant thing about thailand is inconsistancy
GrayK******
GrayK******
And I thought you had military drafting again. Why would they accept you to get out hahah?
swallow********
swallow********
GrayKale866 your country is being overrun by foreigners who go after your girls. Worry about your women. Russia doesnt have your weird problems
GrayK******
GrayK******
swallowalot7630 hahahah oh yeah? Poland is being overrun? Hahahahah good one

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