Non O vis 90 days (retirement). I'll apply Thai Embassy in UK. Is it straightforward to open a bank ac account with this visa?
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Opening a bank account in Thailand with a Non-O retirement visa can be possible, but experiences vary. Many users report that it is straightforward, especially if using an agent, which may charge around 5000 THB. However, some individuals note that it can be hit or miss depending on the bank and the specific requirements, as some branches may prefer long-term visas. Having the correct documents, such as a 'certificate of residence' and proof of funds, is essential, and it can help to check with multiple banks while also considering the location. Alternative approaches, like using agents, are also recommended to ease the process.
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The problem at the moment is the fact that the 90-days non-O visa isn't a long term visa. That's why there have been reports lately about people being denied opening bank accounts. It should work at many branches,but I won't call it straight forward.
David *******
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You do realise that the money actually used originated from the 50,000 other foreigners who've deposited 800k and received zero interest. They place 800k of money they were given for free into thr account then try to charge us 32k for using it for 30 minutes.
so if I arrive on a non o 90 day retirement visa agent can open account for 5000 baht. Fine. No need for 800k deposits? And the one year extension? Total price?
there are some agents who do the bank account opening and the application to the 1-year extension of the Stay Permit for you without you using your own funds. You need to search for those. You can expect a price for this service starting at 32,000 THB. But sorry, the agent I recommend for the bank account opening will NOT do the "1-year Extension" application for you if you don't use your own funds.
i had a quote already from a well known agent. Standard fee for bank account and retirement fee is
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baht. ...not including reentry permit... .....Still unable to make retirement visa in aThailand unless you arrive with 3 month Non O e-visa based on retirement
no, you probably misunderstood the agent. If you use your own funds of 800,000 THB in your Thai bank account, the agent helps you with bank account opening and the application to the 1-year Extension of Stay for 16,500 THB. If the agent has to front the money, you would pay at least something like 32,000 THB. Opening the bank account only would cost something like 5000 to 7000 THB. The fee on Immigration for the application to the Extension, is 1900.-THB. In case you use own funds, then you actually would not even need an agent. You would just use the agent for a seamless account opening, and apply for the 1-year Extension by yourself 60 days after the money was paid into the account
baht they will "assist with the funds" ...so I pay 2600 baht to Thai embassy for a non O and
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baht to agent and EVERYTHING is taken care of. Some agents are currently quoting 60k for whole service. Getting the non O before entering Thailand is a big money saver.
the agent I am talking about is not going to borrow you the needed 800,000 THB. This is on YOUR responsibility. He is only opening a bank account for you - period.
The news you hear are from people on Non-Imm-O Retirement visa who try to open a bank account by themselves. They should have employed agents. Almost every agent in Pattaya can get a bank account opened for anyone having entered Thailand on a 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa. Not with the Bangkok Bank, but with most of the other Thai banks. The price in Pattaya is around 5000 THB. The only pre-requisite is to have arrived on a Non-Imm-O Retirement visa, having a Thai phone number and holding a "certificate of residence" from Immigration. Almost every agent can do it
you are a clown...you keep telling everyone it's straight forward when sooo many tell you it's not..it should be but in reality it's NOT....wish you would stop being so stubborn and misadvising endless people who are not as aware of how hut and miss opening a bank account can be. Lots of threads now moaning at you about this as I did many times last week but nothing can stop you and your inaccurate answer...stop telling everyone opening a bank account is simple...you could get someone to make plans based on your advice and it's so wrong.😡😡😡😡😡
your inability to plan ahead and request the list of documents required to open an account is only a reflection on you. Others simply gather the required documents and open accounts without drama.
he has a point Pete right? You clearly are a dickhead. Don't worry you're not alone bro. World is full of dickheads like you. Full of shit . Empty assertions. Vacuous nonsense. Have a nice day Pete. Pop a pill I think. Fuckwit.
ok now I know your just a wind up merchant with nothing else to do except preach your higher intelligence than all before you. Enjoy your day in Peter power ivory towers and if you ever want to listen to another point of view, or consider that by some strange act of God that you got something wrong then please answer just one question that you have ever been asked. Not seen it yet. Thanks for listening. Clown😂😂😂😂
The news you hear are from people on Non-Imm-O Retirement visa who try to open a bank account by themselves. They should have employed agents. Almost every agent in Pattaya can get a bank account opened for anyone having entered Thailand on a 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa. Not with the Bangkok Bank, but with most of the other Thai banks. The price in Pattaya is around 5000 THB. The only pre-requisite is to have arrived on a Non-Imm-O Retirement visa, having a Thai phone number and holding a "certificate of residence" from Immigration. Almost every agent can do it
you seem to forget that most banks will ask you to include an insurance if you want to open a bank account with them. This insurance will cost you 5000 Baht. So, paying an agent the same 5000 Baht to get a bank account opened, doesn't set you back one cent
i won't be taking out insurance. I decided to move to Vietnam. I refuse to be a scam victim. Thai running rings around farangs...billions in free loans to Thai banks which they loan out for 6 - 10% ...shameful. nothing similar in Vietnam. No need for bank statements or £18k earning fxck all. Thais exploit farangs in every which way. My three month visa to Vietnam $25 and only my passport is needed.
"gathering the documents" is all well and good if the "list of documents " is reasonable. Sometimes thais have unreasonable requirements to shunt us towards their relatives running visa shops!
Pete *******
Banks are commercial businesses , it’s up to them to decide what documents are required to open an account.
oh you're really smart. Sorry Pete. So completely arbitrary then? They can decide how many hoops we must jump through and how high? No consistent rules across thai banks? The wild West right?
are you for real? So exploitative and corrupt practices are euphamistically nothing more than due diligence "your honour"! Ffs man. Give us all a break.
I don’t see anything exploitative or corrupt in asking for a long stay visa, certificate of residency, a Thai phone number and a long term lease in order to open a bank account.
Probably ok but not guaranteed. Only guaranteed way is to get a Non OA retirement visa before traveling. This visa has mandatory health insurance requirements so maybe that's why they are making difficulties for the 90 day non O.
never has been health insurance or police check for Non O, only OA. 90 day Non O is easy to obtain but have read reports of people being unable to open a bank account on this visa.
and I, on the contrary, have just read about people who are on a Non-Imm-O/A visa and were unable to get a Thai bank account opened. Their report is from yesterday. You are extremely generalizing. It is absolutely possible to get a bank account opened on a Non-Imm-O visa, and on a Non-O/A visa as well. It depends on the competence or rather on the incomepetence of the bank clerks
yes! No medical certificate too....all required if you apply from Vietnam or Philippines etc. Clearly they create artificial hurdles to divert the sheep to their incestuous agents while maintaining the facade they're stamping out corruption. Vietnam makes it a doddle to get 90 day e-visa. Requires only passport and $25. No bank statements and letters...no medical certs ...no criminal record checks. Is Vietnam suffering for making it easy or is Thailand likely to suffer for making it so tortuous? Clearly follow the money. Who's benefitting? The same people who set the policies and strict rules. We gotta act like we didn't notice anything improper!
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Lynnette *******
It should be ok. You may have to print a copy of it not just the stamp in the passport. Then it's a case of trying a few banks.
Ant ***********
It’s hit & miss at the moment the more you read , however having a Non-O is a big plus .
Depending on which area you will reside , you may have to go to many banks to eventually open an account
Greg ***********
yes, on this visa you can get a Thai bank account opened, however I suggest before you try that by yourself, let an agent help you. It should cost around 5000 THB to get a bank account opened by an agent, at least that's the price in Pattaya
You must be a rookie. Do you have any idea how many bank branches there are in Thailand? Of course there will be people able to open an account when on a 90 days non-O visa.But not everywhere. Get it?
The prerequisite for opening a Thai bank account is usually
*** an entry on a Non-Imm visa class
**** a Thai telephone number
*** and a residence certificate issued by the immigration authorities.
The residence certificate can only be obtained on the Immigration where you are registered as a resident via the TM30
Different banks in different places may ask for different requirements. The above is just the play by the book.
However, since many bank employees are incompetent regarding the handling of an account opening for a foreigner, so they will pull out of their nose random requirements, in order to get rid of you. Along with a “face saving” wide smile
Fyi,a lot of people arriving on a 90 days non-O have lately been denied opening bank accounts. The reason is the fact that a 90 days non-O isn't a long term visa.This is a catch-22 for a lot of people.
The only change by February 2025 was, that you can't open a bank account any more on a touristic entry.
If you enter on a Non-Imm visa class, have a Thai mobile phone number and a certificate of residence from Immigration, you can get a bank account opened.
The whincing you hear is from people on Non-Imm-visa who try to open a bank account by themselves.
Many bank clerks have no idea what they need to do for a foreigner, and in order to "save face", they pull out of their noses all kinds of reasons why it would be not possible.
You should have employed agents in the first place.
Almost every agent in Pattaya can get a bank account opened for anyone having entered Thailand on a 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa or on any other Non-Imm visa class.
Exception: not with the Bangkok Bank, but with most of the other Thai banks.
The price in Pattaya is around 5000 THB. The only pre-requisite is to have arrived on a Non-Imm-visa class, having a Thai phone number and holding a "certificate of residence" from Immigration. Almost every agent in Pattaya can do it, and YES, they still can do it
And since everybody seems to be whincing how difficult it is to get the bank account opened, even when somebody has the correct Non-Imm-visa class and the certificate of residence and the Thai mobile phone number, all it takes is to pay 5000 THB to an agent to get a bank account opened on the same day. I know an agent in Pattaya who is opening half a dozen of bank accounts every other day
The "normal" way to open an account is by doing it yourself,not by using an agent. The resident certificate that earlier was a door opener at most Bangkok Bank branches is not usable anymore in many branches. How do I know? I asked customer service at my branch in Jomtien in March this year when I opened/extended my FDA. She said no,not anymore. And again, many branches don't consider a 90 days non-O visa to be a long term visa. How hard is this to understand? I have been around many years and I've never used an agent for anything and never will. Period!
you are not in the position to declare anything "normal" and "not normal". You are not in the position to tell us what to do and how to do it! . . . . . . . In Thailand there are THREE ways to regulate things: the official way, the backdoor way and the money way. I have lived in Thailand long enough to have seen all three ways working.
it is EXACTLY same visa HIGH FEE agents use to open accounts at their friend's bank. It's called a non O retirement visa. After 800k sits in new account 2 months the one year extension is available at (shock) only 1900 baht. Lucky for us many agents available to navigate those pesky obstructions for only ten times the price?
This is not about using agents. It's about doing it yourself. Many branches don't consider a 90 days non-O visa to be a long term visa. Thats the major problem at the moment. Get it?
You are still spreading wrong info, day by day, hour by hour. It is becoming ridiculous eventually.
A Non-Imm visa class is sufficient to get a bank account opened.
It doesn't matter that you THINK it is not a "long term visa".
It actually is the beginning of a "long term stay".
Nobody wants to know your opinion about it, your opinion is totally irrelevant. The only relevance is that a Non-Imm Visa Class is the first KEY to get a bank account opened
What incompetent bank staff is doing, this is a completely different matter. They love to pull out of their noses random requirements, and are grinning from one ear to the other if a foreigner believes them. The famous “face saving smile”
that was the price before rules changed for those with a 60 day stamp. The non O 90 day retirement is supposed to be guaranteed. That's its purpose to open bank account deposit 800k and then extend by one year. They create rule then change them...then block everything to force honest people into the hands of the corrupt
the only change was, that you can't open a bank account any more on a touristic entry. If you enter on a Non-Imm visa class, have a Thai mobile phone number and a certificate of residence from Immigration, you can get a bank account opened. The whincing you hear is from people on Non-Imm-visa who try to open a bank account by themselves. Many bank clerks have no idea what they need to do for a foreigner, and in order to "save face", they pull out of their noses all kinds of reasons why it would be not possible.
You should have employed agents in the first place .
Almost every agent in Pattaya can get a bank account opened for anyone having entered Thailand on a 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa or on any other Non-Imm visa class.
Exception: not with the Bangkok Bank, but with most of the other Thai banks.
The price in Pattaya is around 5000 THB. The only pre-requisite is to have arrived on a Non-Imm-visa class, having a Thai phone number and holding a "certificate of residence" from Immigration. Almost every agent in Pattaya can do it, and YES, they still can do it
And since everybody seems to be whincing how difficult it is to get the bank account opened, even when somebody has the correct Non-Imm-visa class and the certificate of residence and the Thai mobile phone number, all it takes is to pay 5000 THB to an agent to get a bank account opened on the same day. I know an agent in Pattaya who is opening a dozen of bank accounts every day
the reason for all of the rules change is due to corruption. A couple of weeks ago some bank workers got busted opening fake accounts for Chinese money laundering. Since then everything has changed. This in the last two weeks alone.
I’ve just been through this. I spent 4 days trying to open an account. Unless was either married or had what’s called a yellow house book I was refused by both Kasikorn and Siam Commercial Bank. Thai was in the Phetchabun/phitsanulok areas. It seems in places like Pattaya it’s still easier to open an account.
The staff at SCB told me that the week before there were staff meetings where they were informed NOT to open accounts for foreigners. I’ll reiterate though that was in the areas I tried.
I finally managed to open an account with Krungthai Bank without any hassle.
When you get closer to coming I suspect things will have settled more. Understandably the banks are waiting for Government fallout on this before deciding on what to do.
This group can be excellent for up to date advice. My advice is seek up to date advice just before you leave the U.K. on the current state of affairs.
But an agent at the moment is a good way to proceed.
Corruption has nothing to do with it. The reason all of this is happening is because a new law came into effect that requires banks to be responsible for all fraud and scams. They are not willing to lose any money, so now they are doing everything in their power to limit their liability. Hence all the trouble people are having now. The big Bangkok Bank thing in Pattaya was just a coincidence.
I’m just relaying what the bank staff said to us at both Kasikorn and SCB and the reason they were informed not to open accounts in that area. Fraud/corruption a play on words but the same thing. The corrupt staff were opening accounts to allow fraud. That was the exact incident referred to us by those banks we visited. Hope that clears up my comment
tens of billions of thai baht loaned TO thr banks practically free of charge (i.e. the deposits of those dumb farangs) loaned out by the banks to thai individuals and businesses at 6 to 10% interest. All coincidence? Such nice people? A monumental scam!
the 800,000 THB deposit is a requirement from Thai Immigration, it is not a requirement from the banks. This deposit is meant to ensure that a foreigner doesn't fall into an abyys should he require hospital care, it is to ensure a financial security in case of emergency
if that was it's real reason a reasonable amount of interest would accrue. Not convinced. Clearly thai government benefits thai banks who in turn benefit thai elites.