Is a retirement visa the only option for living in Thailand for a year?

May 5, 2024
7 months ago
Tim ********
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Hello. I’m almost 59. I’d like to test retirement in Thailand. The only way is to commit to 1 year and then make a decision. Is a retirement visa the only way to live in Thailand for a year?
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The original poster is exploring options for living in Thailand for a year, primarily to test retirement life. While a retirement visa (Non-OA) is a solid choice, comments suggest alternatives like a multiple-entry tourist visa (METV) which allows for an initial stay of up to nine months with extensions, or an education visa. Others also mention the OA visa that permits longer stays without necessarily transferring money to a Thai bank, highlighting the importance of health insurance as a requirement. Community responses indicate a broader flexibility in visa options for expats considering a long-term stay in Thailand.
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William ******
I wonder what people said before Covid when rates were like 0%. I keep hearing the interest rate story, sorry but those rates are temporary. 2025 probably 3%. The exchange rate is 36.7 if it goes above 37 again I think better to bank
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0 baht in a Thai bank. More likely to be 35 next year and maybe 34 in 2026. So the 2 baht increase gets you more than your 5% CD. But it is a gamble. Because if deflates by 2 to 39 you lose money. If after six or nine months you decide you will leave start spending money in your account. Your allow to drop it to
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0 baht three months after extension. So, you could pull half out for 6 months and put into CD. But if you renew the
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0 needs to be back in account I think 3 months before. You do have transfer fees but my bank only charges $25 which is good for a large transfer. Better to do without agent otherwise getting out of using them is difficult. But the interest excuse seems silly because we temporarily have high rates so everyone is worried about the interest income lost. Plus it is a simple process to do without agent as long as you have time and
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0 baht to hold. Me I would gamble and say the $
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today will be worth $
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next year.
Ken ******
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Ken ******
just found some on air quality

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Mike *****
@Ken *****
It was thick as pea soup. Normally a clear view. The island was maybe
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mile or
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km. Couldn't see it at worst or a very smoggy view. I didn't experience any breathing difficulties, but it was clear that the air was very dirty. It lasted a couple months. Sorry I don't recall the specific months but it was during the burning in the fields in Thailand. Very bad when that's happening and then takes time to clear up.
Mike *****
@Ken *****
I stayed in Pattaya for a full year in
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. 27th floor condo in Pratumnak overlooking Pattaya Bay with a clear view of Monkey Island. During the bad months, the air was so bad, I couldn't see the island.
Ken ******
@Mike ****
so you mean even pattaya not immune?! and on a high floor, will it/height reduce pm2.5 or smog?
Natasha *******
Following
Ken ******
suggest stay in the southern part for better air quality
Us *****
Just get the METV for 9 months and you will know if it is right for you or not.
Tim ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Us ****
How do you handle health insurance in this scenario? What are best options and are there rules for metv?
Giles *********
@Tim *******
I’m in non o-a and axa had a policy to fit in with the type of visa.
Us *****
@Tim *******
I got my insurance through
@Robert ********
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Mike *****
Best option is retirement visa. I did it last year and it was a great experience to stay for a full year, lease an affordable condo, buy a scooter and just live.

I used an agent to set everything up so I didn't have to exchange/transfer 800k. I think that's a better option to start since you're not locked in (in case you decide not to stay longer than one year). Once you know you want to stay more than one year, then it'd be okay to start over and xfr 800k.
Vinay ********
@Mike ****
which agent did you use? I want to do the same. Can you please let us have the company or name. You can PM me if that suits. Thank you in advance
Mike *****
@Vinay *******
I used Key Visa. Retirement visa portion was fine but they didn't include the multi-entry (that was confirmed and included in the price) so weeks later I sent a message requesting it and confirming it was supposed to be included. Owner responded rudely and told me to not give him grief. I then dropped my passport off. After 3 weeks and a text, Line message and email requesting status with same responses - "they'd call when ready". I finally decided to give up and stopped in to get my passport back. It had been sitting ready for over 2 weeks. They said they had no contact info (??!!??).

I used J&E Concierge for my DL and was happy with them.
Greta *****
@Mike ****
Cool. If you get 5% guaranteed on your money in the US. In Australia you'd be lucky to get 3%
Tim ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Mike ****
thank you. I think that is the plan. Could you tell me your agent if you’re happy with them?
Tim ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Thank you.
Mike *****
@Tim *******
I wasn't completely happy with them so I wouldn't recommend.

I suggest you enter visa free which allows 30 days. Agents request 2-3 weeks so you have 7-10 after arrival to shop for an agent. I paid 42k for everything - including taking me to bankok bank to open bank acct, retirement visa *including multi reentry stamp. I've since heard 30-40k for retirement visa (probably w/out extra multi reentry option). Good luck.
Greta *****
@Mike ****
So I'm confused. You recommend paying 42k over transferring money? How is that a better deal?
Todd *********
@Greta ****
not sure why you are confused. Getting only 5% on your 800k overseas gets you 40k annually. Annual cost for agent visa extension about 16k. Pretty easy decision
Greta *****
@Todd ********
I meant 5% is heaps!
Mike *****
@Greta ****
*using USD

1/ the benefit of not exchanging almost $22k USD until you're sure you want to stay more than a year.

2/ the convenience of having everything done for you.

Costs;

800k baht = almost $22k USD so with CD rates above 5% that $$ can earn about $1100 which pays the 30-40k fee

*I didn't advocate paying 42k.
Henrik *****
Have you ever stayed longer than a 2-3 holiday ?

If not start testing everyday life, by going on a 60 days touristvisa + 30 days extension at the Immigration.

That is the most easy visa to get, with conditions everybody can fullfill.
Tim ********
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@Henrik ****
I will give myself 59-60 to decide. If not a good decision I will start working again until 67 (full retirement age in US).
Cliff *********
Why do you have to stay for a year to see how you like Thailand?

Get 2 month tourist visa and extend 1 month.

By then you will know how you like it.
Jon ********
@Cliff ********
2 months is not nearly enough time to get acquainted with any country.
Tim ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Cliff ********
I want to see if I can live on a budget that I have in mind. Vacations aren’t good enough for me to decide.
Chris ******
Cliff Sussman it takes a lot longer than that to get your head around Thailand ..
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@Chris *****
it’s certainly enough time to know if you don’t like it
Chris ******
Cliff Sussman I disagree ,after 15 year's here I see most jog on home after a year or two..the first year is spent telling everyone they will live here forever 😂
Sel *****
@Cliff ********
in 16 months here and still don’t know
Paul ********
@Sel ****
yes but you don’t look 59 at our age we are looking for a quite life and sometimes a bit of spark 🧨
Linda *******
@Sel ****
what makes you doubt your decision to stay ? Out of interest sake … thinking of doing this too
Chris ******
Linda Brandenjoy a few years and revaluate later .. most leave .
Sel *****
@Linda ******
I was born and grew up in Germany with turkish roots. In the beginning of Covid (June 2020) I had enough of the nonsense and left Germany, bought an apartment in Turkey and planned to live there.

Came to Thailand end of December 22 just to stay 3 months. Somehow I bought the 20 year elite visa and am stuck here 16 months already. I like it here but also miss a lot of things I love about Turkey.

Considering to purchase a condominium here in Thailand and living here during the European winter. But I can’t imagine staying here forever. It never feels like home, you’re always a stranger/farang here because of not looking Asian, while in Europe or any other western country it feels more like “home” because you look like most foreigners and most traditions and style of living is similar.

Hope it makes sense.
Linda *******
@Sel ****
totally 👍 thank you for your reply
Michael ********
Look at OA visa as well on your countries embassy website. The main benifit for this one is you can keep your money in your bank account in your country. Gives you nearly two years to decide if Thailands for you. The main difference is you will need insurance (never a bad thing)
Kev *********
@Michael *******
it is bad if your insurance is not on the TGIA approved list of companies!
Jan ******************
You can apply for a six months multiple entries tourist visa in the first place. This gives you opportunity to stay up to nine months in Thailand. You can also apply for a one year Non O-A visa with your bank at home. This gives you up to two years in Thailand. Health insurance, health certificate and a statement from the police regarding criminal records is mandatory.
Mel ******
You could look into education visa or some other visa.

You could get 6 month multiple entry tourist visa before you come here. This allows you to stay for two months at a time but at the end of 60 days, you could ask for 30 day extension. This could stretch your 6 months into 9 months with just a couple trips outside Thailand.

I am sure you will get lots of other suggestions here in the next few days. Best of luck to you.
Rick *********
@Mel *****
good advice! I did just that, 9 months with time left I did the retirement visa.
Mel ******
@Rick ********
I came to Thailand on 6 month metv and then sorted out my nonO 3 month retirement visa and then 1 year extension. I tried to do non OA before coming here but I was a resident of Oman at that time and it was not meant to be. Hehe

Luckily, I got everything sorted quickly so I did not have to extend the metv.
Graham ******
There are other options but a retirement Visa then extension is the cheapest
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