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Is a monthly pension of $3,500 sufficient for a family of five living in Thailand?

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Update: people seem to mix up pension with SAVINGS… this is a monthly pension income of $3500 USD plus international health coverage for whole family. Is it not enough??

Family of 5 (3 kids under 10). Husband is 45 years old. Pension of around $41k usd index to inflation. Good international health plan from prior mil/gov role. Wife in her late 30s. What is the best residence option for us?
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A family of five (with three children under ten) is considering relocating to Thailand with a monthly pension of $3,500. The community discussion covers whether this amount is sufficient for living expenses, including schooling and healthcare. Many comments point out that while it might be possible to live on this budget, it would be very tight, especially when factoring in the costs of international schooling for three children and potential healthcare emergencies. Suggestions about residency options include looking into a marriage visa if the wife is Thai, education visas for the children, and work visas for the parents teaching English. There's a general consensus that, given the high costs of living in Thailand, it would be wise to either save more money or consider relocating to a different country with a lower cost of living.
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Craig **********
Craig **********
You can make that work....after all...that's what we do when we chase the dream right...make it work...and it will if you dare to dive in...you will adapt, change, and thrive when you are faced with adversity in a new environment that has endless possibilities for schooling, accommodations, food, and work. Live your life....escape the USA!
Carey *********
Carey *********
Everything is cool, but three kids under age 10, you might want to rethink that move
Ppa *****
Ppa *****
3500 not even close to live in Thailand with 3 kids if one wants them in international schools. Four times that could be possible but still difficult to make ends meet. Reconsider.
Paul **************
Paul **************
Not being negative but why not hit the income growth in the USA for some more years and then move. You won't get the growth you need at this younger age and the opportunity to make money here is limited compared to your earning potential in America.
Aaron ******
Aaron ******
Paul Alan Cooper this is exactly what I’m thinking. Yes life is too short but touch wood if you any of his family met with an emergency in Thailand that he needs hundreds thousands of baht then he will know that what he said USD3500 is never enough. Think twice for that kind of money, there is no security in Thailand trust me. Had been living here and I know the money game. It is not just your fixed daily expenses, there will be many plus expenses that he never had thought of.
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
Life is already too short
Paul **************
Paul **************
ExcellentTurtle3764 Go ahead then. You've already made up your mind. Why bother posting? Seems your doing this more out of desperation that logic.
Aaron ******
Aaron ******
ExcellentTurtle3764 as long as you have put aside 100k or 200k usd saving then I think you are ok. Usd3500 is just to cover your expenses. Those are emergency funds for yourself wife and children
Melissa *******
Melissa *******
Youll need a lot more than that. Have you looking into the cost of international school for 3 kids?

They can get education visa. You and you wife ? Idk.

3500 a month for fam of 5 isn’t a lot to them.

We are 2 ppl. One of 50. Husband is retired vet with 10k a month guaranteed income and we need 800k deposit.
Kim ******
Kim ******
Keep in mind that schools are expensive unless u want a traditional Thai education for the children.
Alan **********
Alan **********
You updated to tell us about savings vs. pension. So "savings" counts ? Will you use savings as additional income ?

I've found Thailand to be about
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the cost of living in the U.S. Would your family be comfortable in the U.S. on $82K ?

And is your pension taxable ? Would there be a tax liability there, reducing your spendable income ?

On the surface, it sounds to me like $41K is really pushing the limits for a family of 5.
Dan *******
Dan *******
Stay in your home country and get a job…$41k is not enough, you will be at the poverty point in Thailand unless you don’t care about your children’s education.
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
How much monthly is needed then? In USD, not counting healthcare or education
Kevin *******
Kevin *******
Scotland
Joe *********
Joe *********
The cost of schooling for 3 kids will be outrageous. Honestly 3500 is not enough school and healthcare costs.
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
Homeschool plus we have full healthcare covered already.
Joe *********
Joe *********
I see. Have you looked into Siem Reap Cambodia? Its approximately 25% cheaper and much easier/cheaper on long term visa’s. A lot people choosing nowadays
Nicholas ************
Nicholas ************
ExcellentTurtle3764 I was going to say that. There’s more to life than straight economics
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
It’s too under developed for us but thank you
Jonny *****
Jonny *****
go cambodia
Steven *****
Steven *****
Too young to retired...
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
Never too young!
Alan *********
Alan *********
ExcellentTurtle3764 Retirement visa only when you're at least 50
Christian ***********
Christian ***********
I think they'll be too much gping threw hoops, juggling of expenses, and stretching of funds. A lot of moving parts that will be difficult if an unexpected cost arises. I'd wait longer and build a bigger buffer and sort out the other variables while home.
SugaRae *****
SugaRae *****
I lived in Seoul for 5 years with 3 kids which is a lot more expensive than Thailand. Never spent more than $3500 a month on our cost of living, so I dont know why people are acting like what OP is asking is unreasonable. Obviously they will have to home school but the only real issue I see is the visa.
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
Thanks is shocking that 3500 usd is being dismissed so easily!
MagentaZ********
MagentaZ********
After you have updated some information I’d say $3500 usd for a family of 5 should be more than enough to live a comfortable semi western life in Thailand. You probably won’t be needing to use any of your pension. Your mileage may vary depending on where you live too. Bkk if most expensive but also you can have more of a western lifestyle there.

Dtv, or education visa might be your best option. I suggest you see a visa firm for more information since you have a wife and 3 kids needing visa too.
Milo *********
Milo *********
Omg ! you guys Make me feel like Thailand is retirement for western people
Brian *********************
Brian *********************
Milo Worapon It often is. When people retire and want a sunny destination with good food, Thailand is a top choice. Not many families are moving to Thailand if the parents are of working age. You could teach if you have the qualifications, and that's about it. Most expats in Thailand have pensions.
Alan **********
Alan **********
Milo Worapon I don't understand your point. Living in Thailand is at least 50% of living in most(?) Western countries making it very desirable to Westerners.

What are you trying to say ?
Allison *********
Allison *********
To echo others $41k annual just isn't a great salary for a family of that size, and visa options are limited because you're too young for retirement.

Maybe you or your wife can get a job teaching English?
Patricia **************
Patricia **************
Allison Phoenix Yes, and I think both of them getting a teaching job to also be able to build up some savings to supplement a retirement Visa when the husband finally hits 50 is a good idea.
Ken ********
Ken ********
3 kids under 10 and you want to educate them in Thailand..??
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
Homeschool
Melissa *******
Melissa *******
ExcellentTurtle3764 then they won’t get education visas. And may have trouble in the future. As it may not be recognized.

We home schooled a bit. But never 3.

I think you need to look at your “plan” as I am pretty sure you won’t have near enough money.

They need to know you won’t be a burden. As that will be a tight budget.

Have you checked with your embassy what you’ll need to move ? You need to be 50 for the retired visa. So that won’t work.
Athena **********
Athena **********
$41,000 pension will yield you $3.4k a month in living expenses. There’s no visa option for you. At least not in Thailand. I think your best option is Vietnam, in a smaller city or town. They are less stringent on using a tourist visa continuously. You could get a three bedroom home for $800-1000 USD. Homeschool and take the family on trips every three months if you budget properly. You and the wife could also get certified to teach English as a second language, which would bring more income into your household. Then, when you turn 50 reconsider Thailand.
Nicholas ************
Nicholas ************
It would be enough for now but most pensions don’t go up and would be eroded in a fairly short time
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
Mine is indexed up to 3%
Wm **********
Wm **********
ExcellentTurtle3764 Same
Paul **************
Paul **************
Now factor in a hospital emergency and you will be in the shit well and truly
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
I have coverage already for overseas
Paul **************
Paul **************
ExcellentTurtle3764 i had a motorbike slam into my stationary bike with me sitting on it and not much change out of 80 million. Im supporting my wife and I on the same money but we own our new build home so no rent to factor in and im saving money in my investment fund and im making at least 1 billion VND a year minimum in royalties. Its doable but I'd hate to be in a country where the employment opportunities are poor and the pay rates are low
Jason *******
Jason *******
I dont think your health plan will go with you, so you will either have to pay out of pocket or get an international plan which will be costly for a family of 5, you may want to rethink your plans
กะลาสี *****
กะลาสี *****
You said prior US government work. Are you retired military? Do you have Tricare insurance?
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
Yes health care is good for me
Carey *********
Carey *********
ExcellentTurtle3764 Tricare won't cover you in Thailand
กะลาสี *****
กะลาสี *****
Carey Bradley I've lived in Thailand for many years & in that time I've submitted dozens of medical claims to the Tricare Overseas Program & I've been reimbursed for those claims. I will attach the link to the web portal for the Tricare Overseas program.
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Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
We have excellent health care thank you
Mark **********
Mark **********
Vietnam cheaper
James *********
James *********
Do you have savings?
Steven ***************
Steven ***************
Honestly at your age and with that large of a family there really aren't very many options for you. As others mentioned about the only one is education for the kids and guardianship for the adults but even that is difficult and expensive. Thailand is not as cheap as it used to be. Don't rely on social media, go on line to the Official Thai immigration and Embassy WEB sites and read the exact true requirements and limitations of the different visas.
Lydia ***********
Lydia ***********
Ask immigration attorney in Thailand. I’ve done months of research. Too important for fb
Dan ******
Dan ******
Have a chat with your Doctor.
Jonathan *************
Jonathan *************
41k US pot, annual, monthly?
Brigstocke ********
Brigstocke ********
Annual pension.
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
Annual pension
Bill *********
Bill *********
To be blunt, you're dreaming. That pension will never swing it. As a single person I spend more than that so for you alone you might squeeze by with no life. But to support a family of 2 or more? Not reasonable.
Greg *********
Greg *********
@Bill ********
Are you living in the lap of luxury? I spent a year in Thailand on way less that $1500 a month. I lived well, eating out most nights at western resturaunts. My rent was 20k baht a month.
Bill *********
Bill *********
Greg Smittle I'm not living that dramatically differently than in my home country. I did advanced financial planning. Because if I couldn't do the things I wanted to do in retirement without stressing over every expenditure, then I wasn't ready to retire. I too value eating out every day, but also really love a large condo in a trendy area, as it's my sanctuary from the city, and that would take up your entire monthly budget!
SugaRae *****
SugaRae *****
@Bill ********
what are you spending your money on?
Bill *********
Bill *********
SugaRae Rae Health insurance takes a big chunk, then rent because I really love a large condo in a trendy area, as it's my sanctuary from the city. I'm a foodie so I go out to eat nearly everyday to real restaurants, not the unhealthy street food. Attend wine tastings often, and some nightclubs on and off. And I love my skybar hangouts 2-3 times per week. Lastly, I travel around SE Asia as well as to my home country several times per year. It adds up but isn't outrageous (haven't returned to golf nor bought a Mercedes yet!).
ExcitingO*********
ExcitingO*********
$3400 will be tight with 3 kids. If you own your house, rent it out for more monthly income. One option would be to enroll the kids in international school and each parent get a guardian visa. But the accredited schools can be expensive. (We pay $1600/mo for 2 kids) and you will need to live a very simple lifestyle to make it work. If you choose the DTV route, you will need a ton of money saved to meet the visa requirements for multiple people, so the education route will likely be your best option. If one of you has a bachelor's, you can get a TEFL certification and teach English in person in Thailand, or online. It wont pay much (about $1500 usd) but it's going to be enough to supplement the $3400. If you teach in person, you may even be able to enroll your kids in the school you work in for a discount or maybe even for free. I would suggesst a free phone consultation with Siam Legal to get visa requirement specifics. You can make this dream possible for your family.

Dont listen to the miserable old gatekeepers in these groups. A lot of them dont understand what we are up against in the US right now...especially if you are a minority.

You can crunch the numbers to make it work and if not, Vietnam, Cambodia and The Philippines are cheaper options to consider. I wish you the best of luck!!
ExcitingO*********
ExcitingO*********
Sometimes I think these old whyt guys get on here specifically to scare people away.
Lyais *********
Lyais *********
ExcitingOctopus624 great positive comment 👏
David **********
David **********
For good advice which fit exactly your circumstances and that you have not fully described, you could start asking the Thai Embassy. Unfortunately, many know it all here will tailor the reply to their situation that in most cases different to yours.

You could use an agent, but beware as not all are good and will be more interested in their revenue than the outcome
Antonio **********
Antonio **********
Oh boy! Oh boy! 41 000 USD for 5?! Maybe Chiang Mai
Tamara ***************
Tamara ***************
Check that your insurance actually covers you in Thailand. Many don't, or don't offer same coverage, or expect you to pay and they reimburse. Even good govt ones (sometimes main insured okay, dependents sketchy).
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
Tamara James-Wyachai I have a family plan no issues. Govt plan.
Dave *********
Dave *********
Either DTV for one of you as a working professional who sponsors the rest, or you can come here on a tourist visa, get your kids enrolled in a local bilingual school, then the parents can get guardian visas sponsored by their kids’ education visas. There are lump sum financial requirements here that have nothing to do with income, you’ll have to do that research for your situation. Don’t let people scare you off on school fees, there are local bilingual schools that are affordable with decent curricula (Sethavidyha in Hua Hin is one).
Tong ******
Tong ******
Thai elite
Wayne **********
Wayne **********
My neighbours get and education visa for their kids and they get a dependent visa off that.

The problem for you is that is not a lot of money to afford school for 3 kids.

If your wife has a degree get her to teach English at a bilingual school. You will get 2 kids in free and visa sorted.
Regina **********
Regina **********
Wayne Thompson They plan to homeschool....
Victor **********
Victor **********
Hua Hin or Pattaya. Nice expat community, affordable cost of living, and good schools. International schools can be pricey, but a combination of home and online schooling is viable. Consult with a professional regarding your visa.
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
Hua hin is our goal, more affordable.
James **********
James **********
Victor Rothhaas Hua Hin isn’t cheap like some other provinces,,, Isaan is much cheaper yet no sand or sea
Victor **********
Victor **********
@James *********
I agree that Issan provinces will be cheaper, but a new family fresh off the boat may experience many difficulties. The language barrier is one of them.
Gilbert ***********
Gilbert ***********
If you are still in the US, my advice is to call the nearest Royal Thai Consulate (I called the one in Chicago). Explain your situation and ask their advice. I got very good advice with my call; I hope you will as well.
Jon *******
Jon *******
Find a company to get him(or you) a work visa. 41k is a decent base but nowhere near what you’ll want for long term stability. Cost of living on its own will catch up to you if it hasn’t already
Alon *******
Alon *******
Your best option is (if you have extra money around) the elite visa, if you don’t then maybe the DTV visa? Do some research.

But even the DTV visa will require you to leave every 180 days and a family of 5 on 41k a year might be hard.

My suggestion is wait 5 more year save some

money and come on a Non-O retirement and be your husband dependents .
John ********
John ********
Wales !
Aaron ******
Aaron ******
No offence. You only had 41k and you want to relocate the whole family to an unknown ground. Are you in the right frame of mind? Or am I missing something? There are more money somewhere. Never think you can find a job in Thailand to make a living. That’s not the solution and for expats to come Thailand is when you have sufficient funding and want to make good a sabai life style. It looks like financially you and your family is not ready. I come to Thailand to retire with 300k but then I still feel insecure once in awhile. Even I still have passive income of 10k every month coming in. Maybe we Asian are more conservative but we always have more to prepare for the worst.
Carmena **********
Carmena **********
Aaron Kang I have seen many foreigners run out of money and have to leave. I agree with you. I don't know how someone can go to a foreign country without job security or significant funds. However, economic and political crises have created different refugees now.
Aaron ******
Aaron ******
Carmena Sandiego yes I agree. But Thailand is not the place for refugees. Because the earning is just not there. I always admired my Thai wife and I told her that how she can live with 18-20k baht a month working in a private hospital. I’m very impressed. Apartment rent already takes up
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of her salary and her car petrol etc. She also said it is very challenging. Though we got married 3 years ago after being together for 5 years, she don’t have to work now and felt happy. I can’t imagine a foreigner going to Thailand and compete work with the Thai and I don’t see a need to do that because the economy and salaries are so weak there. Even I’m thinking to run a business in Thailand now is challenging. There is nothing that seems profitable there.
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
This is a pension not savings
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
Forget pension it’s confusing just see it as passive income of $3500 after paying for taxes and international health insurance. Maybe that will make it easier concept.
Aaron ******
Aaron ******
ExcellentTurtle3764 I get it. Pension. In my country, we do have retirement funds after we reached a certain age. For me, Singaporeans is 55. And my retirement funds is 300k. So I dare to take the chance to retire in Thailand. We can’t have a sabai retirement life with that kind of money in my country without working. It can’t even last us 5 years in Singapore without additional income. Yet I have passive income of 10k every month. But at times I still feel insecure financially living in Bangkok, because of age and medical expenses that maybe needed when getting old. So OP mentioned 41k pension. What can 41k pension do?
onestan*******
onestan*******
Aaron Kang Oh my... In Europe people live 20k on under by EDIT. year (before I wrote month by mistake). And they are middle class. I lived in Thailand 6 k by year. I just don't get it where you put your money? Throwing from the window?
Aaron ******
Aaron ******
onestandonline 20k a month in Europe? You need that much in Europe for a month and what is the currency? But i applaud 👏 that you can live just on 6k a year in Thailand though. I can never meet that. Maybe I’m staying in BKK. I’m not saying you need that much money to live. I’m saying to prepare for emergency. I put aside much funds for emergencies like medical if needed. I’m more conservative about living permanently aboard. I don’t take chances. Like I said, maybe we Asian are more conservative.
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
I think pension is a hard concept for people. Aaron said how long can 41k last?? It’s indefinite it’s called a pension.
Aaron ******
Aaron ******
onestandonline yes I definitely agreed with you that we can live on 30k-40k baht a month in Thailand. No question. But OP post said bring in only 41k pension and that’s it. So? How long can 41k last. OP didn’t even mention if he is still working or intend to work in Thailand. And I never agreed that a foreigner should come Thailand to sabai and still need to find employment. Ok since now OP has edited his post. He mentioned that he has USD3500 coming in every month. But for me, Just USD3500 coming in is definitely not enough to live in Thailand. Because what about emergency? Does he she thinks about emergencies? Let’s say touch wood you had an accident and needed to fund a hospital bill of
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0 baht etc. I would still not take the plunge. And remember you are out of your country which is far away, money if not enough for other emergency fund will definitely be a problem. As said, I come retired in Thailand with a pension of 300k in total and yet with a monthly passive income of 10k. I still always felt insecure about money. Because we are not in our own country, we need definitely set aside money for emergency and also for all the extra sabai we want. The travelling expenses to different countries added in for a quality life. I travel to at least 6 designations a year with my Thai wifey as we enjoy travelling out of Thailand too to escape the heat. And we are just a couple. OP has 3 kids under 10 still. International schooling in Thailand is not cheap. Still, I don’t know how he or she is going to manage. Wish him or her good luck. 🤞🏼
Lavender ********
Lavender ********
onestandonline If 30k baht was enough for you years ago whilst living such a lifestyle, imagine a family of 5 people living on less than that, each? I think that once you have kids, you have to prioritise their needs over yours. You don't just relocate without any plans just because "life is short."
onestan*******
onestan*******
Aaron Kang sorry big typo, 20k by year.

I mean you wrote that family can't survive 40k by year. Yes they can. Do you know how expensive Nordic countries are in Europe and people live half of that money.

When I lived in Thailand I paid rent 10k thb and 15-20k thb I put for living including insurance, phone etc by month. I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke weed and I don't eat western foods. I had nice house, motorbike, I eat out every day, but I live simple life. Because that's enough for me.

You are right insurances are very important (and good ones).
Marty *********
Marty *********
You should check to see how your insurance will work in Thailand if you are a full time resident.
Alan **********
Alan **********
Marty Pollard your insurance may work but unless you get insurance from thai company you won't get visa
Marty *********
Marty *********
Alan Lockhart The most popular visa used by retirees is the O visa and the O visa does NOT require insurance.
Ian *******
Ian *******
Marty Pollard but it does require you to be aged 50 or more.
Christer *****
Christer *****
Marty Pollard That's good advice. Because probably not
Marty *********
Marty *********
Christer Bau Thai is why I switched to Thai insurance but some big companies will cover you on a reimbursement basis.
Ferry *********
Ferry *********
Depend how long you want to be thailand . I will give you detail just DM me
Anthony ********
Anthony ********
If your wife is Thai get a marriage visa
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
She’s not Thai
OzEight *********
OzEight *********
ExcellentTurtle3764 Then get a divorce before you go
Danny *******
Danny *******
Maybe Mexico?
John **********
John **********
You are too young to get a retirement visa. Your simplest solution would be to get a Thai Privilege visa covering the whole family but it's expensive
Paul ********************
Paul ********************
@John *********
yeap they start at THB 1.5 million and up from there.. Suspect for a family of 5 it will be up on THB 1. 5 million
Reiner ************
Reiner ************
I agree best idea , till he is 50
Julius *********
Julius *********
What country are you from?
Excellent**********
Excellent**********
OP
USA
Bob **********
Bob **********
ExcellentTurtle3764 you need more money and probably a more friendly visa wise country
Julius *********
Julius *********
ExcellentTurtle3764 Try Ban Phrake. That’s our village. BUT the real question is what do you want in a location?

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