Will my UK pension be affected if I register as a tax resident in Thailand?

I think a lot of this is misleading. The Thai Gov. Revenue are only interested in 'the money you bring into Thailand' and is subject to the DTA / CRS between UK and Thailand. If that money is a Pension or part of a Pension and you have paid into it over a work lifetime it is tax free and if it's tax free in the UK it's tax free in Thailand. I'm sure Thai Revenue are not interested in UK Pension rules and regulations and more specifically are even aware of the 'Pension Freeze' on UK Pensions if you live abroad. UK are probably the only major country with this regulation. So in my opinion you should do what the Thai Gov. ask you to do: go to your local Tax Office register for a Pension Identy Number, bring your documentary evidence of your Pension Payment (letter you usually get around Mid March), copies of a few UK Bank and Thai Bank statements and if you're only receiving the basic Pension £10k pa you will not have a problem if you are over £12.5k pa you may have to provide more detailed information.

My understanding is UK is actively changing laws that will very soon allow them access to bank accounts so they are able to investigate benefit fraud, and as much as I disagree, keeping your pension in the triple lock system will count as benefit fraud, so 1st as last u may as well be up front

If you are thinking of claiming you live in the UK when you really live in Thailand so you can get the pension increases. The DWP have the right to interrogate all your UK bank accounts to see where you are actually spending your money. AI is able to search thousands of accounts and make a call where you are living. If caught you will have to pay the money back and may even face fraud charges.

Of course they will find out eventually

So is better to fess up now

How does this fit in with domicile status. If you pay UK tax on a private pension because the pension provider cannot pay it gross, can you claim the tax back if you are a tax resident in Thailand.

Due to DTA, it may be advantage to pay UK tax and pay any extra for assessable income in Thailand.

UK state pension and increases on it is a bit unique in not getting the increase if you don't live in certain countries.

As a retiree in Thailand, you are not a permanent resident and go from year to year. It is no different to a long holiday, as far as being away from the country.

If I pay UK income tax, or any tax for that matter, I would be very disappointed to lose the annual increase in state pension.

It sounds like the UK has a double taxation agreement like the United States does with Thailand. if you are paying your taxes in your home country then you are not going to be paying taxes on the same income again to Thailand. if you take a look at the Thailand tax schedules they are quite high from a Western perspective. if you need to inform Thailand that you are already paying your tax in your home country, okay. DTA means if you are already paying tax on your income, The taxes are not doubled by paying a second time to Thailand. Sometimes I read that the Thailand government tax people will give you a filing number TIN and other times I hear that they tell you to go away!

AI will soon know everything you are doing.

Im just learning about all now. Have spoke with girlfriend and we will visit the tax people here. I dont get any benifits in the uk.

if you live over 180 days outside it is mandatory to inform hmrc and form p85 is the mechanism to do that

No need they already know with your passport

Just because you have a Thai tax ID doesn’t mean you are liable for any payment.

And yes HMRC will know you are not living in the U.K. because it will be on the system that you have left and not returned.

If you're resident elsewhere you lose the index linking

If you have told the UK officials that you live in Thailand they will freeze your pension at the rate you first took It automatically. The Thai tax office won’t get in touch with the UK tax office, in fact nobody can get in touch with the UK tax office

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Yes they will receive your shared banking data and now dwp can access your bank account and take money back off you

They will back dated for sure and will reduce your pension until they recover every penny, not worth taking a risk

Hope you don't me asking. I have a one year retirement visa. I dont get any pensions yet from uk. I basicly sold up and moved out here. So im living of my own money. Do i still need to notify tax people

My friend didn’t tell DWP that he was living in Thailand however after a few years they found out and they hammered him by vastly reducing his OAP + interest over several years it’s called Fraud is it really worth the risk !!!!!!

They can claim any over payment back once they discover you are no longer resident in the UK and it’s back dated to the day you left.

No. They don't talk to each other. Don't forget we have a DTA with each other. Just bear in mind your tax UK tax allowance tho'. Good luck. Cheers 😎🌞⚓

More than likely. Not worth the risk. Notify DWP of your intentions to play safe and as

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said, you are legally obliged to do so.

I get a State Pension and a private pension on which I pay tax in UK even though I live here.

You are legally obliged to inform the DWP yourself. I doubt the Thai Revenue Department will inform DWP you are in Thailand but they could inform HMRC via CRS and DWP might pick up on that. I had my Thai address registered with HMRC for some years before getting my state pension and they knew exactly where I was when I applied for the pension