What leniency can foreigners expect from Thai immigration in proving income for retirement and marriage extensions?

Jan 22, 2019
6 years ago
Jon ********
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Thai immigration has confirmed it will show some leniency to foreigners with regards to proving income when applying for retirement and marriage extensions.
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Thai immigration has announced leniency for foreigners regarding income proof requirements when applying for retirement and marriage extensions. This is particularly helpful considering the difficulties in obtaining notarized letters from consulates due to recent changes. The conversation discusses various aspects such as the combination of bank balance and monthly income, acceptance of different account types, and ongoing concerns about immigration procedures.
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David ************
Tod you should start a pool. When in 2020 will we see the first complaint saying "But they didn't make me prove 12 months in 2019".
Ron *****
I stuck a sum of over 400k in a bank account and locked away the atm card so wont touch it by mistake, any of those rules affects me? In terms of yearly extensions based on marriage?
Ron *****
Ok and if i do the fixed deposit one. What about the bank book update? Won't have to do that? The letter explaining the type of account will suffice?
Ivan ************
Yes make sure the type is acceptable to immigration. The bank should be able to tell you. With Bangkok Bank's fixed term accounts at least they are acceptable to immigration and the only penalty for early withdrawal is forfeiting interest.
Tod *********
@Doron *******
There are two types of "fixed deposit" accounts in thailand, ONE where you can access the money BUT will lose all the interest and pay a penalty <- you CAN have this type of fixed account. Another type is where the money is frozen in the account for the period of deposit and cannot be accessed at all <- you CANNOT have this type of fixed account.
Ron *****
@Vladimir *******
time deposit? Do u mean like locking it for a predetermined period of time? But isnt that a problem? Dont the immigration need me to make a transaction and print it on the bankbook before i come to submit the papers?
Vladimir ********
Doron Azulay Better to keep your 400k on time deposit. This will give you some income interest, not much but enough to compensate currency fluctuation rates, and no any ATM card need at all (secure + ATM cost money every year). I kept on time deposit account and no problem with acceptance at immigration.
Ron *****
@Tod ********
cool. Thanks
Tod *********
nope, you are using a different method to show proof of funds (banked money method) .. The amendments and the "leniency" that people are to be shown for the first year is ONLY for people using the 'monthly income method'
Tom **********
So, is the bank balance only option (rather than 12 monthly transfers) still valid?
Robert *******
Yes, bank options are still valid and did not change.
Tod *********
I for one think it's a great step forward in actually addressing the problem that exists this first year as they transition from the embassy notary to monthly international deposits. Now if we just knew how lenient the officers are going to be :O
Tod *********
Here's the thai version of the text (BIG Thanx go to ubonjoe from the thai visa nation news forum). It's better than nothing. I mean I can read it so I'm sure a born, bred, rice fed thai can too.

If you're going to take anything to your immgiration office take the three page amendment to clause 2.18 and 2.22 AND then take this paper as well.
Robert *******
@Richard ********
Sound like MR Wisut. He told me once the same, just do not spend your income so you have the 400k in the bank next year. I said good idea, you join me for dinner tonight. He looked surprised and i said but you have to pay because you want me to save my money. He stamped quickly and did not say another word.
Richard *********
@Robert ******
@Tod ********
Thanks. Just left immigration. And WOW. You just can not make this up! It went like this.

I showed them my bkk book with FTT codes for the last year showing a minimum of 40k baht transferred monthly. (As my non-o is based on marriage).

The IO looked and said, "but you spend this every month", I said, well yes why?

He said no sorry the money has to stay in the bank.

I then showed him the police order update but he did not care to even take a look.

So I showed him another book with over 400k inside and he said yes this is better.
Robert *******
@Richard ********
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Richard *********
Sorry, do you have a link for the amendment to clause 2.18 and 2.22 (For some reason is is not available on Thai Visa dot com). Thanks
Tony ********
Will they allow a combination of 500'000 in Thai bank plus monthly income to take the total over the 800,000?
Tony ********
@Tod ********
you mean 3months of 500,000 plus the transfers? If he has a Canadian passport won't the affidavit from the embassy still suffice instead of evidence of 12 months of transfers??
Tod *********
There were no changes to the combination method in the amendment they put out. You'd need 12 months of transfers AND bank the balance of the 800K for 3 months but they should allow it.
Lance *********
There was also talk of the Immigration taking into account houses built investments made etc have you heard anything along these lines ?
Lance *********
ok thanks for the reply
Tod *********
that was just talk :/
Tod *********
This is a BIG step in the right direction AND does address the fact that some people will not be able to get a notary letter from their consulate due to it discontinuing them at the end of last year AND they have not been transferring in the required amount for a full 12 months like the amendments to the police order state now.
Tod *********
@Jon *******
do you have the thai version of this ???
Lance *********
mutatis mutandis means what exactly ?
Lance *********
thanks Tod
Tod *********
(used when comparing two or more cases or situations) making necessary alterations while not affecting the main point at issue.
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