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Does the new affidavit ruling affect retirement visa extensions with monthly deposits in Thailand?

David ********
asked Nov 9, 2018
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Guys sorry to ask again as it’s probably been done to death but I just need to clarify something?

The new letter of affidavit ruling does that in any way affect being able to get the visa/extension for retirement by putting the money in the bank every month?

To explain it clearer if I put the required money in a thai bank account every month will that suffice for the visa?

There is a lot of conjecture and rumors that you were only able to do this with the consulate letter and now that has stopped it’s 800k option only which I don’t think is true.

I know someone who was told by their local immigration that they cannot do application with monthly money in bank 🤔🤔

Thanks all for any help
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The discussion focuses on the clarification of financial requirements for obtaining or extending a retirement visa in Thailand, particularly concerning the new rules about affidavit letters. Many participants confirm that current immigration rules remain unchanged, allowing applicants to meet the financial requirements either through a lump-sum deposit of 800,000 THB in a Thai bank or through a monthly income of 65,000 THB certified by an embassy. However, there is confusion regarding the acceptance of monthly bank deposits as an income proof without an embassy letter, leading to concerns and uncertainties among expats.
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Tod *********
Tod *********
Okay, ONE LAST TIME just so everyone is clear about this

AT THIS TIME <- meaning right now as of yesterday when the immigration office closed, there is NO policy change in regards to the ways to meet the financial requirements for extensions using the income from abroad method. <- That means you use the affidavit of income from abroad notary from your consulate.

The current police rule that states the income letters are good for 6 months from the date they're issued is still in effect AND AT THIS TIME the immigration officers (at least in Bangkok) are stating that IF you get the letter before your consulate stops issuing them AND if you use it before it expires (meaning within 6 months from the date it's issued) they WILL accept it next year from extensions of stays.

There has been NO new policy written on how people will meet the burden of proof as far as showing the minimum income per month. Certainly it will need to be written and implemented but AT THIS TIME, no one really knows what it will be.
Robert *******
Robert *******
And these questions are multiple times discussed and the only thing we can answer is: Nobody knows. There are no changes of rules at the Thai Immigration Office. Only a few foreign Embassies has changed their rules and this makes it at the moment unclear if Thai Immigration is reacting on that or not. We can discuss hours and hours, but we as foreigners have no influence on the Thai Immigration rules.
Marty *********
Marty *********
I just got my year extension in Bangkok. I could meet both the income requirement and the bank requirement. If someone else can do the same then they could try meeting the income requirement with bank statements. If that doesn’t work then they have the bank deposit as a backup.
David ********
David ********
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Thanks guys for all replies it’s appreciated. It seems it’s a wait and see game which is very bad news and stressful for all. I had hoped that the 65k in a thai bank would be enough as why would u need certification when u have Thai bank statements but from what you all say it seems this is not the case or maybe not the case.

Has anyone here previously ever just shown 65k monthly and got visa without embassy letters?

I always thought that was the case and only needed letter if the money was not in thai account?
Robert *********
Robert *********
David Dillion plans for the worst and hope for the best. I am due in Sept 2019 and am now putting the 65k in the bank. I will know eventually if it is going to work, but I don't want to find out in six months I should have started now, if you know what I mean.
Ron *******
Ron *******
A new update on the Thai immigration website.

Make of it what you will.

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Robert *********
Robert *********
@Robert ******
I quoted what immigration told the British Embassy. This was in formal, official conversation on the current situation
Robert *******
Robert *******
No, statements of foreign Embassies has NO influence on the Royal Thai Police Immigration Bureau. The only way to find out is to ask your local Immigration Office if there is a way around.
Robert *********
Robert *********
there was an interview by radio fm103 and the British Embassy. The Embassy spokesperson said they and Immigration Bangkok had talked, told they were told a bank deposit of 65k/month would be acceptable. HOWEVER, that was BBK, and we know how different offices talk to each other. Also, we are dealing with a group of public servants, who, it seems, have not been given specific instructions on the new circumstances. I think, at this stage, we all need to lobby our individual Embassies a. to get clarity on the situation, and b. to allow a Thai bank statement to be accepted a monthly income. In the meantime, the bottom line is no-one knows.
Ron *******
Ron *******
@Robert ******
as i said, I can only post what immigration update on there website.
Robert *******
Robert *******
It is still the same text as the Police order
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(2014)
Ron *******
Ron *******
@Robert ******
thats a new update.

Thats all i can post.
Robert *******
Robert *******
What is the new update? This text is old, Immigration never mentioned on their website the income affidavit of embassy to certify your income, only asked at applications in offices.
Lloyd ********
Lloyd ********
At the moment no one knows what immigration might be prepared to accept as proof of income - we will just have to wait and see.
David ********
David ********
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@Lloyd *******
aw crap 😔
Robert *******
Robert *******
There are no changes at Immigration, so the rules stay the same. for the Extension of Stay based on being over 50 years of age it is still the same 3 options: 1) minimum 800.000 Thb in Thai bank 2 months prior application date on first application or 3 months for consecutive applications. 2) a Income of minimum 65.000 Thb a month, certified by your Embassy or 3) a combination of 1 and 2 with a minimum of 800.000 Thb combined.
David ********
David ********
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Pierre Seigneur i never said it was ???
David ********
David ********
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@Robert ******
yes but embassy certifications are stopping so that’s not an option ?

So basically at the moment what your saying is 65k in thai bank may NOT be accepted ?

It’s an unknown ??

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