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What is the experience of doing a border run from Chiang Mai to Mae Sai like?

Ian ********
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I just wanted to give something back to the Thai Visa community who gave me advice beforehand and share my experience of doing a border run to Mae Sai from Chiang Mai.

A couple of weeks ago my 60 day+30 day extension SETV in my British Passport was getting close to the expiry date. I decided I would go across the border at Mae Sai into Myanmar and back and do the journey by scooter. I've been an enthusiastic biker for years riding numerous big bikes but here in CM I only have a Yamaha GT 125 that does 95-100 kph flat out.

I left at 06.45 and I was having coffee in the centre of Chiang Rai by 9.30, stopping for gas 3 times along the way. It was 187km by my odometer and most of the time I was doing around 85-90 kph in Lane 1, but there was a several km stretch of roadworks 45km out of CM. I hardly bothered with the cycle/scooter lanes as I was travelling with what traffic flow there was and during the journey only 4 cars/minibuses passed me. There wasn't much traffic going in my direction at all. If I needed to overtake I would use lane two rather than the narrow cycle/ scooter lanes as undertaking is dangerous in this lane, especially as on left hand bends, as vehicles ahead of you drive into it. They also straddle lanes/double yellow centreline on right handers too so its important to anticipate this when overtaking!

I had one experience where I have over taken some slower moving traffic which was in lane one. I overtook in lane two and fortunately for me saw a car travelling at around 120kph in lane 1 which literally flew past me. Having done a lot of my riding in the UK and New Zealand, its not something you expect to experience and I was lucky that I had the forsight to check my mirror before slowly drifting back into lane 1 otherwise I don't think I would be here now typing this!

The ride to Mai Sae was another ~65 km and took me 75 more minutes. Once at Mae Sae I rode just about to the end of the road where the bridge crossing is and parked at the roadside.

The border transition was easy. Just a quick pass through the Thai border passport control and stamp out, before going into a Myanmar Passport Control office in my case to hand over my passport and a clean crispy pre ironed 10 USD note (or 500 Baht). You get a receipt for your passport. I walked across the river bridge, had a quick wander around the market type stalls on the Myanmar side before coming back, then collecting my passport from a Myanmar Immigration window on the other side of the road. I then proceeded to the Thai border where I picked up a TM6 form from a booth, completed it and then presented it at passport control where I had my photo taken and got my British Passport stamped with a 30 day Visa Exemption. No money was needed and I didn't have to show proof of onward travel or bank account funds. It was a straightforward easy process which took no more than 10 minutes in total. It was my first ever land border crossing out of Thailand and I belive that you can do two a year via a land border to get a 30 day exemption.

I after getting some food I decided to head back toward Chiang Mai the same day and go to Chiang Dao but 2 hours into the ride I got a puncture and lost my passport along the way when I had stopped to take my phone out of my pocket. FML!!! So it turned into quite an eventful experience! Long story short, I got the tyre fixed and found my passport on the roadside back towards Mae Sai and stayed in Chiang Rai for the night before doing the return journey the next day.

Would I do the journey again by scooter? Most certainly. If you are experienced riding motorbikes and enjoy it, then it's great and I found it easy to be honest. I didn't have any butt aching from the ride and apart from the one experience which I described with the speeding car, I felt no less safe than I do riding a motorbike/scooter day to day. Next time, I would do the journey there and back in one day I think. I did wear a decent helmet jeans, shoes and a long sleeved top to give me some protection from throwing the bike down the road. It did feel a bit cool first thing and at higher elevations. I didn't have a problem getting up the hills and there weren't that many. Only one took my speed down to about 55kph.

In conclusion, if you like riding bikes, have some road sense, eyes in the back of you head, treat everyone on the road around you as an idiot and anticipate and plan for the unexpected, then do it. I think it cost me around 400 Baht in gas and I enjoyed the ride.
Answer summary
A user shares their experience of a border run from Chiang Mai to Mae Sai, highlighting their journey on a Yamaha GT 125 scooter. They detail the route taken, border crossing procedure, and the ease of obtaining a 30-day Visa Exemption. The post includes tales of unexpected challenges, such as a punctured tire and losing a passport, but also emphasizes the enjoyment of the ride and offers practical advice for fellow bikers considering this border run.
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Malcolm *******
Malcolm *******
Sounds good and no more risky than a mini bus driver
Ian ********
Ian ********
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That was my thinking too Malcolm. 👍
Laurence **********
Laurence **********
You take me back 16 years ago doing it on a 100 cc Yamaha. Traffic in those days during the week was almost nonexistent. You could go all the way up to the Chinese border and stay 14 days. Had to check in at many places with a pile of paperwork. Checking your time between checkpoints. LOL. Couldn't take the bike out of Thailand. Secret police followed you in the country towns and cities. Hilarious, they were wearing black leather jackets. People openly smoking opium. It was really amazing. Even Mai Sai was quiet and full of smugglers. I can't find anything like that now. Unfortunately it's all changed. Laos is full of backpackers with loads of mommy and daddy money. Cambodia is tame now. Wow.....How sad. Glad you enjoyed your adventure and thanks for the good info for new people. Excellent advice and true. You would of loved it back then. Don't get me going about Mae Sot. That was my favorite border town for many years. Totally ruined now unfortunately.
Barry ***********
Barry ***********
I have a Honda Wave 125 and I would never go on a ride that long. If you had a big touring bike it would be fine. I once road my bike from Pattaya to Banchang and that was too far. Hurt my ass
Biff *******
Biff *******
Great piece of luck finding your passport on the road!
Ian ********
Ian ********
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Musstapha *********
Musstapha *********
Is it possible to stay one night, one day in mynamar side? Thanks
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
You can definitely stay up to 14 days on the $10 stamp. Travel onward is restricted and you have to exit at the same border (they keep your passport). Kengtung is an option but may need an extra permission or guide, I never did it but I did ask Myanmar immigration about that once years ago and it was possible but involved something, I didn't follow up on it.
Aaron ****************
Aaron ****************
Even with a visa from the Myanmar Embassy, travel through most of Shan State is restricted to foreigners due to rebel activity. Onward travel from Tachilek is via aeroplane to Burmese controlled areas only.

BUT, on that 14 days card from Tachilek Immigration, you are allowed to take a bus north to Kengtung, the principal town of Kengtung township. Here was once part of the Lanna Kingdom, and is home o the Shan subgroup the Tai Khun.

Then from there you are allowed to take a bus north east to the border town of Mong La, or "Shan State Special Region 4". Run by the Mong La Army (National Democratic Alliance Army-Eastern Shan State), this city runs on Chinese electricity and Chinese Yuen, and serves mainly as a Sin City for Chinese tourists. Gambling, prostitutes, Tiger meat, you name it, they got it.
Ian ********
Ian ********
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You could well be right about being confined to that city. However I will check my stamp when I get home. I'm sure others will be able to clarify.
Musstapha *********
Musstapha *********
@Ian *******
I have heard about 3 days but have to stay only at Taichilek city and if would like to go other city have to go embassy mynamar in bangkok before but maybe I understood wrong.. lol
Ian ********
Ian ********
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I believe that the stamp you get in Myanmar is for 14 days for the 10USD/500 Baht.
Marc *******
Marc *******
Well written Ian and a good reference for smaller bike riders.

I think a 125cc is the minimum for a decent ride there.

I usually driver my loaded truck to the farm in Chiang Saen and notice a lot of smaller bikes making the run.

Also noticed that a lot more Thais are now on Automatics.

The Yamaha GT you re riding is a strong 125cc
Richard *****
Richard *****
I was in Chiang Saen and Ban Saeo last week. Visit there regularly!
Biff *******
Biff *******
You have a farm in Chiang Saen? Our house is in Ban Sob Kam :) About 5km down the road towards Chiang Kong :)

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