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What is the best way to stay in Thailand for an extended period without high costs?

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Apr 23, 2022
3 years ago
William **********
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Hi guys đź‘‹,

If you would like to stay as long as possible (legally, without completely breaking the bank with some elite-type visa stuff), what is the best way to do it?

For example, is it better to just straight up apply for the 60-day visa and possibly extend it? Or is it the same if you just come on the standard 30-day visa and take it from there?

I'm just trying to learn from some of you who are more experienced, as I'm not sure how to do it - so any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!
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To stay in Thailand legally for as long as possible without excessive costs, consider the following options: Applying for a 60-day tourist visa before arrival is often more advantageous than entering on a 30-day visa exempt entry, as it allows for a potential 30-day extension, totaling 90 days without multiple trips to immigration. Other suggestions for long-term stays include options like marriage, employment, or an education visa (ED visa). Additionally, the Special Tourist Visa (STV) provides a longer stay of nine months but has various conditions. Be cautious about visa runs and entry limits, particularly regarding the number of times you can enter without a visa.
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@Maxim **********
 what are the requirements for the STV?
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Maxim ***********
I don't think it's any different than getting a tourist visa, except that you need to do this visa in your home country, or pre-covid in Perth Australia you could do it too. So you can't go to Cambodia and get the STV.
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Selena ******
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 thanks for the clarification.🙏
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Maxim ***********
Why don't you apply for the Special Tourist Visa (STV) which gives you 9 months and then go from there?
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Carrie **********
Somehow on this trip I managed to stay 90 days on a 30 day tourist visa. The second time I went to get another 30 day extension, they told me I could not. BUT THEN they gave me a consent form and a Covid 19 form to fill out, in which I had to state how Covid 19 has prevented me from leaving Thailand as planned. So I wrote in something true in the “other reason” space, like “exposure to Covid 19 could delay my departure.” Apparently that did the trick, because I was awarded another 30 days.
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Martinello **********************
What if you leave and come back. How long do you have to leave the country
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 You can go and come back same day in most cases
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Native ****************
Here it is:
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Maxim ***********
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 This only apply to land entry, but land is close atm.
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Depends if you were on a Visa Exempt entry... If that is the case, you are only normally allowed 2 Visa Exempt entries per year, but gimme a sec, I will try to find the Gvt website info
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 even if you have stayed for 60 days?
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Bobby ********
Another longer stay visa is the STV. It's a pretty clunky visa with a lot of conditions to meet when you apply, but it does give you a total of nine months in the country, without having to leave, although you will have to visit immigration at the 90 and 180 day points to get your next extension. It's being discontinued later in the year, but if you get in before July 3rd you'll get the full benefits. Note that I'm not recommending this visa, but if you're going to have a fairly stable address it might suit you, so it's an option that you should look at
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Eric **********
Pm.
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Sam *********
Honestly. The only real ways to stay long term are: A. Get married B. Get a job. C. Get an ED visa and attend class. Otherwise you will be playing the 6 month "what visa do I get now" dance...
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Sam *********
Well, maybe you have a retirement visa. Or special elite?
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Maxim ***********
@Sam ********
 Ive been here 10, no retirement, no elite visa, nothing :).
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Lee ******
@Maxim **********
 how does that work?
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Chrystal **************
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 I’m also curious
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Danny ********
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 not married, not working and don't go to school and i have been here for 5 years.
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Sam *********
Don’t sell yourself short man, you can find a teaching job if you try. Try for the tourist visa first, then explore the next set of options after that
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William **********
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@Sam ********
 Yeah okay, already traveling with a partner and without the education I guess a job is not a possibility

I'm not against doing the visa dance if it's possible

Thank you Sam
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Brandon ************
If you come in on 30 days visa exempt you can only extend 1 time for 30 days for 1900â‚ż. That gives you 60 days in Thailand for 1900â‚ż.

But if you apply for a Tourist visa before you arrive you'll get 60 days for about the same price as you would pay for your extension in Thailand, and you don't have to spend the time and money going to the immigration office.

You can then also extend for 30 days, giving you 90 days total.

So if you're trying maximize your time, getting the tourist visa before you arrive is always better.

Visa exempt is only better if you're coming for less than 30 days since it's free.
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James **************
Just to add, after your 90 days is up you can fly to a neighbouring country, get another 60 day TV and repeat! Dont rely on that for too long though .....
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At the moment most hotels may give you decent money price per week or month. Like
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/month. Usually it requires the manager to decide.

For just few months, if go with hotel. That way you are forced to explore, and you can move around, in the city as well as the country.
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William **********
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@Brandon ***********
 Oh man, that's really perfect! I guess I'll do the 60+30 and then maybe that's the max

If I can ask you another question, do you know if it's legal for tourists to rent an apartment? Like officially or AirBNB
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Brandon ************
@William *********
 you can also rent a serviced apartment.

It's very difficult for a short term visitor to get an actual lease on a condo. Most are minimum 12 months but at least 6 months. So don't even bother trying if you're not going to be there for that long.
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 I’ve rented a condo for 1 month on each of my last 7 trips. 2 through AirBnB and 5 through local agents. More expensive than long term rental but perfectly possible.
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William **********
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@Brandon ***********
 Ah I see, I was just wondering since I remember one person told me it was not legal or something to rent an apartment

But I guess I can't do it anyway since I won't have a 6-12 month visa

In any case, thanks a lot!
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 As Mr. Brandon mentioned, there are some very decent Serviced Apartments that will do daily, weekly and monthly rentals. Depending on where exactly you are going in Thailand, there are a few websites you can look at for rentals. An easy one is simply look for Facebook Rentals in the area you are going. Also, just do a key word search on Google and some rental websites will pop up. Shoke dee! = Good luck !
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William **********
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 thank you very much!
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@William *********
 No worries... Let us know how you make out and perhaps we can help you more if we know what area you are planning to visit. Cheers!
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 AirBNB is legal if it's 1 month or longer. Short term AirBNBs of a condo are illegal (but still commonplace).

The only problem you can run into is some AirBNB hosts will not file a TM30 for you even though it's required by law. Sometimes you need this TM30 to get your extension at immigration so that can be a problem.

They don't want to do it because they're not paying taxes on their rental income and they do not want the government to know they are renting.

So I generally message the host on AirBNB before I book and ask them if they will do TM30 for me. If not (or they say they don't know what that is) I just keep looking.
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William **********
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 Okay, in this case I guess AirBNB sounds like one of the most viable places to find a place
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