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What is the best way for British expats over 50 to manage banking and visa requirements before moving to Thailand?

Aug 12, 2025
7 days ago
Gary ***********
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Hi, looking for advice on a possible plan I have

Myself and my wife are moving to Thailand in March for a few years, both over 50, British and no intention of working

We have the money to put the 800k each in bank accounts, I believe we need 2 separate accounts

Now when we arrive in March we will have about a week where we are setting before 2 weeks travel away for the area (long booked and can't really change)

The issue is opening bank accounts and getting the money in early enough, plan is to arrive on 90 day "Non O on basis of retirement )

As we will be hotels for the first 3 weeks this sounds a bit tight

We visit for a holiday, staying in a rented villa, in November for 15 nights

Would it be possible to get a 90 day Non O for that trip and sort our bank accounts out? we could then transfer the money with plenty of time to spare

Not sure if that would be an issue to get another 90 day non O 5 months later? Also I cant get the 800k each in you UK accounts until month end so they won;t have been there for the 3 months prior to applying in the UK, the will have been well over 65k thb a month deposited in each account for a long period though

If possible what paperwork do I need from accommodation and anything else to help with bank accounts or is it easier just to use an agent for the accounts? not sure what they currently charge for this

If we leave it all until we arrive in March I assume I can't do anything when we arrive in March and this would leave us with only 2 month to deposit and season the funs

Any advice/suggestions greatly appreciated, thanks
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An expat couple moving to Thailand considers the best approach for obtaining a 90-day Non-O visa based on retirement and opening bank accounts amidst travel plans. They need to deposit 800,000 THB each in Thai bank accounts but are concerned about timing due to initial hotel stays. Comments from the community emphasize the necessity of a certificate of residence, which is difficult to obtain while temporarily housed in hotels or short-term rentals. Suggestions include prioritizing the opening of a bank account upon arrival and potentially using an agent, though many suggest managing the process independently to avoid additional fees.
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Welcome to Thailand..the food here is delicious..and the people are very kind.
Maitin *******
Banks have been getting a hard time recently with mule accounts. You need a long term visa and CR to open a bank account. Which is a problem since to get a Non O retirement visa requires 800,000 in the bank for at least 2 months.

Strangely Bangkok Bank seems to be much more strict and wants a separate account just for the 800,000 and they wamt it in for 4 months or the account frozen for 4 months before they will issue the letter to immigration. It's time for my annual extension and it looks like I'm going to Bangkok Bank to open a second account with them tomorrow.
Marc ************
I think you mix up a lot of things.

If you come with a 90 day non 0 retirement visa. Why the hurry to put that money in a Thai bank?

And its not 800.000 and 65.000.

it is 800.000 in the bank.

Or... 65.000 a month income.

Or a combination of both. Calculate as this... For every 1000 bath income you are short. You need
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bath in a Thai bank account. That money must be there untouched in the last 2 months.

To get a retirement visa or his extension. For immigration, you will need...

* TM30 from the landlord where you rent

* Long term (mostly they ask for a year contract) renting contract.

* They will ask you probably to draw a map of the neighbourhood you live in.

* As you don't have a Thai bank account yet. An embassy AFFIDAVIT. To prove your foreign assets or income.

* Visa application.

* copy of passport and entry stamp or visa stamp.

* Picture without glasses.

* If your landlord isn't know by immigration, you need to apply for the landlord's information by the "DBD" in the basement of the immigration office.

* As much as possible documents to prove your assets or income.

I guess that's all.

I live on the outskirts of BKK. You can rent in this neighborhood easily a condo or apartment for less than 10.000 a month. I pay 8000.

Opening a bank account you need a document of immigration + retirement visa + year contract Renting + ( for some banks even a contract with a telecom company.) easiest is "K-bank"

If you want a rental car or scooter. Bring an international driving licence. A simple British is not sufficient.

I hope this info is useful. If you have more questions. Feel free to pm me.

One advice. It looks complicated. But it is easy. So don't use an agent. They are expensive and not worth the money you spend.
Rick *******
@Marc ***********
thanks for all the good advice that’s a lot of detail. I keep seeing mention that it’s 800,000 in a bank account OR 65,000 per month pension.

I will have a pension of approximately 70,000 baht , 2200 USD starting next May 2026. I plan to move there in June. Will a letter of approval from the Social Security administration be adequate to prove my income when applying for a visa?

I also will be moving with my wife and eight year-old son so I will need dependency visas for them as well

Does it make more sense to apply for the OA one year visa before I get there, or just do the O for 90 days an extend once I get there. I know that’s a lot of questions. I appreciate any information you can provide.
Tom ********
It's best if you apply for the retirement visa from your own Country then you will have no problem opening a bank account here, You can not open one now with just a tourist visa.
Gary ***********
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@Tom *******
Yes that was my plan, just wondering whether to do it a 90 day retirement for my Nov holiday to sort bank ot leave until we arrive properly in March
Tom ********
@Gary **********
Probably better when you come here in November to save having to get exit visa's
John **********
No reason you can't get Non-O visas for both trips. Set up your bank account on the first trip and apply for the extension of stay on your second. Money doesn't have to be in your UK bank for any time to get the Non-O but it does need to be in a Thai bank for 2 months before applying for an extension of stay based on retirement. It's pretty easy to do yourself, forget the agent
Gary ***********
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@John *********
Its just what would be required to open the bank account on the first trip ~( 15 days VRBO rental in a villa)
John **********
@Gary **********
go to immigration and get a residence certificate. Go to a mobile provider and get a SIM card in your name and get a receipt from them. Go to a bank with the above and your passport showing the Non-O visa and ask to open an account
Max *************
@John *********
He's staying in an Airbnb for 15 days. That's not normally what a residence certificate is for and not even possible at some immigration offices.
John **********
@Max ************
not sure where you got Airbnb from, a rented villa is quite different
Gary ***********
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@John *********
Cheers, I assume I need something from villa owner for residence certificate
John **********
@Gary **********
yes they would need to file a TM30 for your stay and give you a copy of the receipt to take with you
Christopher *******
Talk to Robert Jackson in Bangkok, he's here on Facebook great guy. Visa's and bank accounts.
Marc ************
@Christopher ******
don't use agents
Gary ***********
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Jeremy *********
I am from UK and arrived one week ago on a non o visa. I already have a bank account and now waiting to extend for a year retirement visa. To make sure you are ready , you will need a copy of you E-visa your passports and non o stamp inside and your TM30. ( certificate of residency ) I would recommend that you start with Kasikorn Bank. If you have all the correct paperwork , it's a doddle. I have not used an agent yet Try speaking with the bank and ask their requirements and go from there
Max *************
@Jeremy ********
The TM30 is not a certificate of residence. It's your registered adress in your province. The certificate of residence is something else and you apply for it at immigration.
Gary ***********
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@Max ************
its technically not an Airbnb but thought it was best way to explain, its a villa we have stayed at before , seems best we just treat this as a holiday and get a new plan for March, the 3 hotel weeks are the first part of the March trip which was also a holiday before I got an early retirement package from work, these aren't cancellable and we ha e paid a lot from them
Maitin *******
@Max ************
make sure you get the property version of the certificate of residency... Tell immigration why you want it and they will get your the correct one
Max *************
@Maitin ******
Why tell me?
Gary ***********
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@Max ************
would they give me that when Im only in that villa for 15 days?
Max *************
@Gary **********
First, staying in an Airbnb less than 30 days is officially illegal in Thailand. Second, 15 days is way to short for both immigration and for most banks. You're wasting 15 days + those 3 weeks in a hotel. You can't apply for a certificate of residence, and banks will not accept 15 days in an Airbnb or a stay at an hotel. You haven't thought this through. When arriving on a 90 days Non-O, finding a place with a long term contract and open a bank account is the two most important things to accomplish. If you're not going to apply for the 1 year extension during these 90 days, you must find a place to stay with a long term contract,open a bank account and transfer the money within these 90 days. It's normally no problem. Arriving in Thailand on a 90 days Non-O and going away after 15 days instead of finding a place to stay and open a bank account is imo pure stupidity. That's NOT how it should be done. You might need an agent,but wasting a lot of money because of not having a plan is not very smart. If you'd done it the correct way, you could easily have accomplished everything for free in a very short time. I hope you understand what I mean.
Gary ***********
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@Max ************
We didnt intend doing anything during these 15 days other than a holiday, we are moving there in March, I was just wondering if I could use some of the time to make things easier
Brandon ************
@Max ************
Staying in an AirBNB is never illegal. It's renting out your property for less than 30 days in certain cases that's illegal. The person doing the renting is doing the illegal thing, not the customer.

Though every time I've used Airbnb I always message before I book asking if they'll do a a TM30 for me.
Jeremy *********
@Gary **********
My apologies. Had a few today. Yes you are right Max
Gary ***********
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@Jeremy ********
Brilliant thanks, did you have a long term property in advance?
Len *****
The main difficulty in opening a bank acct is to show that you have a permanent residence.
Max *************
@Len ****
He needs a certificate of residence from immigration,and most banks don't accept a hotel. Some banks wants at least a 6 months contract if staying in a condo or house as a tenant. Requirements differ between banks.
Gary ***********
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@Max ************
I would be in a rented villa on the first visit, albeit only for 15 nights
Max *************
@Gary **********
How long is the contract?
Gary ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Max ************
its just an airbnb type for 15 days, thats November, when we arrive in March to stay we will be in hotels for 3 weeks min and then look for a 1 year contract but we will be short of time on the seasoning of the funds I imagine
Jay *******
Come on your 90 day Non immigrant O. Get a thai sim card and the paper you need from them to register your phone number with the bank. Take those and open your bank account shortly after arriving in Thailand. Transfer your money.

Traveling while you are trying to get set up may cause you problems because you will get a new tm30 everywhere you stay. Not sure how immigration will look at that.

I was able to do everything within a week including getting my one year extension, but I used an agent. I did bank my own 800k. I was able to get the bank letter quickly because I agreed to freeze the money for 4 months. Hope that helps
Gary ***********
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@Jay ******
Thanks, so if we arrive in March with a 90 day Non O and our money ready to transfer do you have any idea what an agent would charge?
Marc ************
@Gary **********
don't use an agent. It's a waste of money.
Mark ******
@Gary **********
Just to give you an example I'll be arriving next month with a Non O and as a precaution I e-mailed an agency in Khon Kaen and was quoted 15,000 Baht to open an account and depositing my own money. That's expensive to what I've seen quoted as the going rate in the past but presumably it's because of the current situation. It may be cheaper in a city such as Pattaya with a bigger expat population and more agencies.
Gary ***********
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@Mark *****
Great info, very helpful, thanks
Jay *******
@Gary **********
I don't remember because I was paying for multiple services and the rates are changing often with all the banking changes. It wasn't enough to change my mind and I had an account in 45 minutes, no shopping around.
Max *************
@Jay ******
So,just because you didn't manage to do anything on your own, everybody else has to use an agent. Where's the logic in that?
Jay *******
@Max ************
where did you read that? Want to borrow my glasses? He's asking what his options are.
Max *************
@Jay ******
He doesn't need an agent to open a bank account. He's got the correct visa. You just didn't manage.
Jay *******
@Max ************
I managed exactly the way I wanted to cheap Charlie. Just because you're broke doesn't mean everyone else is
Max *************
@Gary **********
If you arrive on a 90 days Non-O, just concentrate on opening a bank account. Apply for a certificate of residence at the local immigration office,and go bank hunting. You don't need an agent. Just a waste of money. The correct type of visa and the certificate of residence are imo most important.
Henrik *****
Expect being hard to get a bankaccount straight after arriving in Thailand, even for retirement.

Banks in Thailand are like everywhere in the world, interested in having good stable customers, that have a permanent address, a steady easy traceable income, and use the account all year round.

That is why the banks are reluctant to give accounts to people on short time ( read: tourist ) visas, and who only spend part of the year in Thailand.

Don’t expect to get a residence certificat, until you have stayed at a permanent adress in at least 3 month, since that is what the residence certificat should confirm.

Furthermore the added attention on whitewashing of money, is an added burden on the banks, so reluctant depositing large amounts isn’t a guaranteed way to open an account.

The value of a resident certificat, had gone down, since Immigration Officers are giving them to people that are not on a longterm visa, or have stayed severel months at 1 adress in Thailand, so even if it is a formal requirement, the bank make up their own assesment of the stability of the want-to-be customer.

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Be aware there is a error in the start of the article ( and several other copy - paste media with the same article )

A Thai Bankaccount has never been a requirement to get DTV, on the contrary it has been one of the big advantage over other visa, that you could get DTV as long as you could show 500.000 Baht equivalent in any bank anywhere in the world.

It has never been the intention that DTV visaholders should be in need of a Thai bankaccount.

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Gary ***********
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@Henrik ****
Thanks, a lot of useful information, the shame is that all this affects people like us who are coming for several years and intend doing it all by the correct rules
Henrik *****
Thai Bankrules have been tightened, because too many people has misused the Thai Banks, laundering money, and trying to hide money away from their homecountry.

But it is not only Thailand, where money needs to traceable etc. it is going in tha direction in many countries.

Been coming in Thailand for close to 30 years, different lengths of stay ( 2 weeks - several months) and never needed a Thai bankaccount, since I have my income outside of Thailand, and that’s where it is needed to have a bank, customers can pay to.
Melissa *********
I found my one year rental on a fb site for rentals in the town I was choosing for my first year. I had my contract in hand when I landed in Thailand.
Eric ***************
I messaged you pms me
Marc ************
@Eric **************
no info but invitation. That sounds like an agent. Don't use agents.
Eric ***************
Pete *******
Many banks require a certificate of residency and a long term lease / ownership to open an account. You will struggle on hotel bookings.
Maitin *******
@Pete ******
you need a long term visa to open a bank account. It's not like it uses to be
Gary ***********
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@Pete ******
Thanks, was just wondering if we could on earlier visit in Nov when we have a short term villa rental
Roland ********
Pffft
Tom ********
@Roland *******
What sort of answer is that, remember this is Thailand Visa Advice | DTV | Retirement & More if you can't answer probably best you don't!
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