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What are the key requirements for opening a bank account in Thailand with a Non-O visa?

Jul 13, 2025
2 days ago
Scott ***
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My wife and I are from the USA and we received our Non-O (over 50) visas this week, with different dates because I had to resubmit my application. We have a flight to Thailand in just over a week, and we plan to settle in Pattaya initially.

My big concern now is how to open Thai bank accounts, and particularly in how to open them quickly enough for our visas not to expire before the 60 day seasoning period is over.

As I understand it, we need Thai sim cards, passports, visas, etc. to open the accounts (preferably with Kasikorn bank), but I'm unclear on the residence requirement.

If I have it right, then the TM30 form will be done initially by our hotel upon arrival, but it seems that's not enough for the bank to open an account.

Rather, it seems we need a Thai Certificate of Residence (TM13) from the Thai Immigration Office to open the bank account, which if I understand correctly, requires a rental/lease agreement (along with a new TM30 from the owner).

To complicate things even further, it seems that it might not even be possible to get a Certificate of Residence without living in said residence for several months, unless you are in a particular jurisdiction where the immigration officer might break the rules, possibly with the encouragement of an agent.

Assuming you get a TM13, it seems that it takes two to three weeks to actually get it, (by mail only ?).

Maybe I have this wrong, but that's why I'm asking. That said, I have a few questions:

1) Do our 90 days start with what's on our visas or do they start upon our arrival in Thailand?

2) Is a TM30 from a hotel enough to open a bank account or is a TM13 from Immigration required?

3) Can you get a TM13 from the Immigration Office with a TM30 from a hotel or is a signed rental/lease agreement required?

4) Can you get a TM13 at the Pattaya (Chonburi) office without living in a rental for an extended period of time, or do you need the assistance of an agent to avoid the waiting period in a residence (if there even is one)?

5) Must you get theTM13 by mail, and does it actually take two to three weeks to arrive?

5) Assuming a hotel TM30 isn't enough for the bank (as discussed above), then what's the fastest (recommended) way to quickly obtain a signed rental/lease agreement?

6) Am I missing anything regarding how to open our Thai bank accounts as quickly as possible?

Thank you everyone!
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The discussion revolves around opening a Thai bank account with a Non-O (over 50) visa upon arrival in Pattaya, highlighting concerns about residency requirements. The crucial points include the necessity of a Certificate of Residence (TM13), which typically requires a rental agreement, and the complications of obtaining it quickly. Various community members shared experiences, clarified that the TM30 (hotel registration) alone might not suffice for opening a bank account, and highlighted the possible need for assistance from agents or alternative solutions to expedite the process.
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Linda *************
How long will it take to get the one year extension after applying?
Lance ********
Probably a moment where A Thought on Thai Immigration and the Future of Expats in Thailand are heading if things are not looked at differently...your problem and confusion is just a tip of the iceberg

It’s becoming increasingly difficult to understand the policies and decisions coming from Thai immigration. Even the officers themselves often seem uncertain, and regulations appear to shift without clear communication or consistent rationale. In a country that depends heavily on tourism and foreign partnerships, one would expect policies to encourage—not discourage—long-term visitors, retirees, and business contributors.

Many expats, particularly those on Non-O retirement visas, spend the majority of their income within the Thai economy—supporting local businesses, services, and communities every single day. Just look at cities like Pattaya, where the local economy relies significantly on this demographic to remain stable and prosperous.

Thailand has long been admired for its culture of warmth and hospitality. Historically, foreigners were welcomed and respected. It’s disheartening to see that spirit fading, replaced instead by inconsistent rules and a growing sense that unless you’re extremely wealthy, you’re not especially welcome.

Most expats have chosen Thailand as their home, not just for the beauty, but for the people and values. Many feel a deep sense of loyalty and would stand by the country in times of need. It’s not about asking for special treatment—but rather fairness, clarity, and a recognition of the positive role foreign residents play. These are not unreasonable expectations. And frankly, it’s not rocket science.
Scott ***
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Lance *******
Totally understand
Matthew *********
@Lance *******
well said
Michael ********
I opened one with the same bank (different province) I took passport, phone for proof of sim address and printed photo of me at the address showing name of address 30 mins later I had a bank account

I was told by bank to make two deposits and a withdrawal so when I go for a renewal visa it shows use of account

Hope this helps

Pattayays a hell of a starting point my friend I have holidayed there but now am more rural (That phanom)

Good luck my friend
Scott ***
ORIGINAL POSTER
Thank you so much for the information and kind words Michael.
Michael ********
@Scott **
I think it may have been a fraudiant slip calling it patta ya ay ya but it suit the city

It's interesting
Patrick *********
In Jomitien they issue the certificate of residency on the same day (300B fee) and will accept a hotel as address, actually many hotel in Pattaya offer monthly long stay rates.

- when checking in at hotel ask them to register you right away online and print out the confirmation

- Get a Thai SIM Card at a 7-Eleven

- take the printout from hotel to immigration and get a TM30, in low season that should take less than 30 minutes and is free.

- with the TM 30 you can then immediately apply for the residency certificate, usually issued in less than 1 hour, unless it's before lunch or closing time.

Bring 2 passport Photos, and you need a Thai phone number (Hence, the step above to get a SIM first)

The Immigration information counter in the left building on the parking lot will give you all the required forms, tell you what passport pages you need to cooy

and finally hand you Q number once they checked if all your documents are in order.

Photocopies can also be made there for just 3B per page.

I recommend to go to Immigration around 9:30am, the initial opening rush should have cleared by then.
Erik ***********
@Patrick ********
You do not get a TM30 at immigr. You bring the TM30 which your landlord is obliged to register within 24 hrs. I might have misunderstood you, but with this you get your certificate of residency and in Chom Thien they will produce a letter to the bank stating that you are good to go. Paid B1.000, to have this expedited.
Patrick *********
@Erik **********
that's partially correct.

The online form (done by Hotel) is not sufficient to get a Certificate of residency in Jomitien.

One first needs to get the paper TM30 (example is attached) from immigration.

I don't understand why you paid 1000B, unless you paid an agent to do it for you.

The paper TM30 is free and the certificate of residency 300B. Both can be obtained in about 1-2 hours.
Scott ***
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Patrick ********
Thank you so much Patrick. That's exactly the clarification I was looking for.
Tony **********
You'll have 30 days to get bank account. Getting bank account is a 1hr process. Surely you can find a permanent place to live in 28 days, get a residence certificate and take copies of everything to the bank. Easy peasy. I think you're adding more stress than you need to but are on the right track. A month is a long time....
Scott ***
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Tony *********
Thank you. Thats encouraging.
John **********
I think you're looking for TM18 which is the form you complete to request a certificate of residence from immigration. It's easy enough to complete when there but you'll need a photo, along with TM30 and passport
Colin *********************
@John *********
I tried this in Jomtien last winter. They also wanted ID of the condo owner and documentation that they owned the condo. Will try again next winter to get the residence certificate
John **********
@Colin ********************
would they not get that from the TM30?
Colin *********************
@John *********
no. Wanted more documentation and unfortunately the condo “renters” turned out not to be the owners
Scott ***
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Colin ********************
Yikes! Good luck to us both.
Ian **********
Banks have certainly tightened up on who they grant accounts to and staff are bound to following refreshed account opening guidelines. Having said this, and from experience, there are variations from one bank to another, one branch to another, and one member of bank staff to another on how they apply the refreshed rules. Some documents seem to have become mandatory though: Passport, Visa Certificate, Certificate of Residence (to obtain this from a local immigration office needs: Passport, 2 x Passport Photos, Proof of Residence - (Rental Agreement), Copy of Visa, Complete a Form, Pay 500THB). If you are unable to provide all of these documents due to your circumstances, try to visit a local immigration office and explain your situation.
Scott ***
ORIGINAL POSTER
Thank you for the detailed response Ian. That definitely helps.
Shauna ******
@Scott **
If you can afford it, use an agency, some want to do it on their own and others would rather use the time on other things. I am older and use an agency for everything. Easy peasy.
Ian **********
@Shauna *****
Lawyer for Expats (Thailand) - Brian Ramsden and his business colleague, Mint
Ian **********
@Scott **
welcome
Bernard ************
Je suis, j'arrive en octobre
Pete *******
1) On arrival

2) TM30 will not open a bank account. You need a certificate of residency.

3) Why are you asking about a TM13? Irrelevant.

4) Irrelevant

5) irrelevant

6) Need Certificate of residency, Thai phone number, rental agreement, non immigrant visa.
J **************
@Pete ******
#2 not true with all visas
Pete *******
@J *************
the question is about Non O visa based on retirement and NOT about other visas.
Scott ***
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Pete ******
Thank you Pete. As I mentioned, I'm quite confused. I thought the TM13 was the same as a Residency Certificate.
Ning ******
if 1 bank rejects you, go to the next one. Even the same bank with diff branch might give you a diff answer.
Scott ***
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Ning *****
Okay. Thanks Ning.
Jamie ******
Visas start the day you arrive ,that’s day 1
Graham ******
@Jamie *****
Visas start from the date of issue, the 90 days stay permitted starts at day one one the day of arrival
Jamie ******
@Graham *****
a non o starts from the day you arrive ,,you have 90 days from the issue date to activate it ,,meaning to travel to Thailand ,,,so I don’t know why your trying to confuse the OP as you verified what I had said with regards activating / starting the visa
Graham ******
@Jamie *****
Your Visa is used the day you arrive, it starts the day is it issued and you have 90 days to use it
Jamie ******
@Graham *****
.and when you get stamped in ,,how many days do you get ..90 days ,,that’s what the op wants to know
Graham ******
@Jamie *****
Agreed but you got the terminology wrong. The visa starts (is valid from) the date it is issued.
Robert ********
@Graham *****
He confuses the visa and the allowance of stay (stamp).
Scott ***
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jamie *****
Thanks Jamie. That will definitely improve the timeline.
Jamie ******
@Scott **
just to be 100% clear ,, ,.. you both get 90 days when you arrive and are stamped in
Brandon ************
I don't know the specifics of Jomtien, but I've gotten residence certificates in 3 different provinces, and none of them required a lease. They just wanted a copy of the TM30. And in 2 of those provinces I politely asked if there was a way to get it faster when they said it would be 1-2 weeks, and they offered an option to pay for same day or next day pickup.

Specifically for Jomtien/Pattaya, you might also be able to find an agent that can assist in getting it quickly. Maybe focus on one of the agents that advertises for Drivers Licenses, I think Tiktok and MOTS offers that? I'm not 100% sure though.
Scott ***
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Brandon ***********
Thank you Brandon. That really helps.
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