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What is the best visa option for a family entering Thailand with a child who may need a Thai passport?
Non-O VisaNon-B VisaThai PassportVisa Options for ChildrenFamily VisaExtension of StayThai Nationality
Feb 17, 2022
4 years ago
Mauricio ******
ORIGINAL POSTERHello,
Before the question here below, just want to say thank you for all the clever advice that we can find here. I think we don't say thanks enough to the admin from this page.
Back to the point :
I have a similar situation from the one exposed by Brain Barton few months ago although in my case is slightly different:
- I have a work assignment in Thailand that will kick anytime soon.
- Miss cutie Canadian mix toddler and her Thai Mom are following.
The question is strictly for miss cutie:
- I still haven’t determined under which Visa approach I will enter Thailand. Would it make more sense to enter under the Non O with the whole family instead of going through the process of the non-B. What would be the less painful way for miss cutie?
- In the case we’re going to the path of having Thai ID/Thai passport for miss cutie once we’re in Thailand, will she need travel out after 90 days with her entry passport and re-enter with her Thai passport? (we believe that doing it while we're in Canada might take too long)
Before the question here below, just want to say thank you for all the clever advice that we can find here. I think we don't say thanks enough to the admin from this page.
Back to the point :
I have a similar situation from the one exposed by Brain Barton few months ago although in my case is slightly different:
- I have a work assignment in Thailand that will kick anytime soon.
- Miss cutie Canadian mix toddler and her Thai Mom are following.
The question is strictly for miss cutie:
- I still haven’t determined under which Visa approach I will enter Thailand. Would it make more sense to enter under the Non O with the whole family instead of going through the process of the non-B. What would be the less painful way for miss cutie?
- In the case we’re going to the path of having Thai ID/Thai passport for miss cutie once we’re in Thailand, will she need travel out after 90 days with her entry passport and re-enter with her Thai passport? (we believe that doing it while we're in Canada might take too long)
TLDR : Answer Summary
The user is seeking advice on the best visa approach for entering Thailand with their family. They are considering whether to enter under a Non-O visa as a family or deal separately with a Non-B visa for work. Additionally, they inquire about the process for their child, who may need a Thai passport and whether a re-entry will be necessary after 90 days.
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Robert *******
Just comment in stead of editing your text.
What ever VISA you use has NO effect on the the visa needed for your daughter.
Each and every person has their own visa.
IF she enters using a foreing passport she will get an Admitted to Stay according her own visa.
She can than apply for a 1 year Extension of Stay based on being a Thai National waiting their Thai ID and passport.
Once she has the Thai passport she needs to leave Thailand after cancelling her Extension of Stay and re-enter using her Thai passport.
What ever VISA you use has NO effect on the the visa needed for your daughter.
Each and every person has their own visa.
IF she enters using a foreing passport she will get an Admitted to Stay according her own visa.
She can than apply for a 1 year Extension of Stay based on being a Thai National waiting their Thai ID and passport.
Once she has the Thai passport she needs to leave Thailand after cancelling her Extension of Stay and re-enter using her Thai passport.
Mauricio ******
ORIGINAL POSTER@Robert ******
sorry, I realized some typos while reading me back, that's why the edit and thanks for all the valuable informations. I really appreciate it. Cheers.Reply to
Mauricio ******
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Robert *******
Best and easy solution to your problem:
For yourself:
Travel alone:
The Non Immigrant B visa if you travel alone an family stays behind and pick up the work permit
Travel as family
The Non Immigrant O visa based on marriage OR the Non B
For wife and child: Use their Thai Nationality and Thai passports
If the kid does not have a Thai passport arrange one at the Thai Embassy before departure.
Good luck.
For yourself:
Travel alone:
The Non Immigrant B visa if you travel alone an family stays behind and pick up the work permit
Travel as family
The Non Immigrant O visa based on marriage OR the Non B
For wife and child: Use their Thai Nationality and Thai passports
If the kid does not have a Thai passport arrange one at the Thai Embassy before departure.
Good luck.
Robert *******
If you need to work the only option you have is the Non Immigrant B visa in combination with the Work Permit.
Mauricio ******
ORIGINAL POSTER@Robert ******
I think the ask is clear, I'm not asking for myself. But thanks for the advise.Mauricio ******
ORIGINAL POSTEROnce we enter, do we have to exit before 90 days under Non-O or it's just matter to have the 400k baht in that bank account. If we deposit a month after we arrive so we have to do a visa run? (I realize now that my question might be redundant from for the non-o questions)
Robert *******
@Mauricio *****
Would it make more sense to enter under the Non O with the whole family instead.You can apply for the Non O visa based on marriage with a Thai Nationa and get the work permit,
For the toddler it does not matter as she will follow your granted stay as a dependent using the Non O visa and Extensions of Stay.
OR the toddler applies for her Thai ID and Thai passport and use that.
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Benjamin ******
1. how old is the half-Thai child?
2. How long will you be in Thailand?
2. How long will you be in Thailand?
Mauricio ******
ORIGINAL POSTER@Benjamin *****
1- 19 months. 2- Min 1 year.Benjamin ******
@Mauricio *****
And does the child have legal citizenship in Thailand?Mauricio ******
ORIGINAL POSTER@Benjamin *****
not yet, that's why we're exploring the option here. Since the tight schedule we might proceed with the paper work while we're in Thailand.Benjamin ******
@Mauricio *****
Regarding overstay and children:A child under 15 years of age can not be fined or deported for being on overstay, and a child under 18 years of age can not be deported and only fined 20K THB.
My opinion: Have the child enter on a tourist visa/ visa exempt/ or whatever valid visa, get the child's Thai passport, border bounce (by air only!) out of Thailand with the child and return on the Thai passport.
Mauricio ******
ORIGINAL POSTER@Benjamin *****
lol!! I'm looking for 'Thai Visa Advice' and not looking how to get around the system. I'm not even travelling and we talk about deportation!!! 5555Back to the track : Would be great if your idea can be confirmed by the community here. That would be great and again, you guys are great!
Benjamin ******
@Mauricio *****
ANOTHER option you can try if you want to go on the completely legal route (AND assuming the immigration office will let you since the child's a minor) is to acquire a "one year extension of stay based on being a Thai citizen" for the minor child at the immigration office. This requires proof of Thai citizenship, including a housebook, or other proof that the child is a Thai citizen. The fee is 1,900 THB, and will be renewed once a year.
I expect the immigration office will simply tell you to keep the child on overstay though.
Benjamin ******
@Mauricio *****
I'm not talking about "getting around the system". I'm saying the most efficient solution would be to let the half-Thai child to enter Thailand and go on overstay until you receive the child's Thai passport. Once the child has the Thai passport, bounce out with the child and have the child return on the Thai passport. It's the most simplest, cost effect solution without any punishments or penalties .
1. Schools may not allow a child to enroll if they are currently on over stay.
2. The child's only 19 months old. The child won't go to school for another two years at the earliest.
3. It does not take two years to get a Thai passport (for a Thai citizen).
4. The bordering countries are reopening by air and should be completely reopen within two years.
Keep the process simple and cheap. Let the child go on overstay, and bounce out when the borders reopen by air with the child.
Don't make the process more complicated than what it is.
Mauricio ******
ORIGINAL POSTER@Benjamin *****
Thx!! That's well noted and very appreciated. I wasn't aware about the 'efficient way'. Once explained it's pretty clear. I have option now. Cheers!!Reply to
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