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What challenges do DTV holders face in residing continuously in Thailand?

Anonymous *************
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So the DTV has been out for about a year and a half now. Has anyone who received it had difficulty staying in Thailand continuously on it (doing extensions, border runs etc.)? I have seen people online claim that the DTV is not "intended" for living here for its full duration, but nothing in the official guidelines seems to imply that. Wondering what the reality has been with peoples' Immigration touchpoints.
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The Digital Nomad Visa (DTV) has been available for about a year and a half, with mixed experiences reported by expatriates living in Thailand. While some users express satisfaction, citing successful border runs and ongoing residency, others highlight potential challenges, such as changing immigration policies, the necessity of extending each 180 days, and difficulties in securing extensions without a Thai bank account. Discussions reflect a prevailing sentiment that while the DTV grants significant freedom, its long-term viability is uncertain, and its rules could become stricter in the future.
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Luit *****************
Luit *****************
When you say nothing official implies it is not for continuous stay, then you must have missed it has a stay of 180 days.

Why should they implement a 180 days stay for a visa meant to stay full time.

Of course you cal legally use the loophole of back to back stays, just as with visa exemption.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
I got an LTR instead. It’s much better option. Skip lines at customs. No reporting. No leaving unless you want to. Issued by the Bureau of Investment so it’s highly regarded and you can get a FREE work permit with it. Honestly was a no brainer.
Robin *********
Robin *********
I think many people dont know this (source Gemini)

Do Lawyers Receive Commissions for "Recommending" the Elite Visa?

The short answer is yes. It is standard industry practice in Thailand for law firms and agencies to receive commissions for successful applications to the Thailand Privilege Card (commonly known as the Elite Visa).

1. The GSSA System (General Sales and Services Agents)

Many prominent law firms in Thailand act as official GSSAs. These are licensed sales agents authorized by the Thailand Privilege Card Company Limited (a state-owned enterprise under the Ministry of Tourism).

How it works: When a lawyer assists you in purchasing a membership, they receive a payout from the company.

The Cost to You: Because the commission is paid by the state-owned company, these firms usually offer their application services to you for free. They make their money from the backend commission, not from your consultation fee.

2. Referral Fees for "Sub-Agents"

Even smaller law firms or independent consultants who are not official GSSAs often benefit.

Referral Payouts: They act as "referral partners." If they point you toward a specific agent or help you sign up, they receive a "referral fee."

Estimated Earnings: Commissions typically range from 5% to 7% of the total membership fee. For a "Gold" membership (900,000 THB), the commission is roughly 45,000–63,000 THB. For the "Reserve" tier (5 million THB), the commission can be as high as 250,000–350,000 THB.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Robin ********
the elite visa is outdated and pointless. No one who knows about the LTR visa would ever consider getting the Elite visa
Daniel ***********
Daniel ***********
No drama at all
John *********
John *********
No, so stop spreading nonsense
John *********
John *********
More anonymous bitter ramblings, if you have a DTV correctly obtained you can come and go as often as you like and stay up to 6 months at a time, it’s only for 5 years, make the most of it!👍
Claire ********
Claire ********
No

It's easy to live here and travel with it.
Andrew *******
Andrew *******
it is intended for whatever the terms of the visa are, staying here 6 months at a time for 5 years is one of them. Dont listen to the weirdos in these groups
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Andrew ******
and they are just that, weirdos. They must feel very small inside.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
DTV is a great visa for some people who didn’t fit other categories before, definitely. But when it launched, it was marketed by some people in the group here as the ultimate flexible visa with easy extensions, bank accounts, 5-year driving licenses, etc. The reality is that things have moved toward restriction, not flexibility. Bank accounts are hard or impossible to open, some are even being closed, extensions are nearly impossible (and requirements got published months AFTER the issuance of the first DTVs), and now they apparently require a bank account you can’t get. Driving licenses can be limited to 2 years instead of 5 (depending on office). So yes, good for some flexible people, but far from a full benefits guaranteed long-term solution. Be aware of that and play it safe.
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
Anonymous participant 186 Exactly. Introduced by Taksin to troll his oppo. Letting in all the people his oppo have been weeding out for years.

Call in favours and change rules until they are back in power after the election.

It will either be made impossible to maintain, money in Thai bank whether at the border or immigration or amounts raised as they did with the elite visa or just plain scrapped.

Anyone that can't see what's happening is clueless about the politics behind it or living in cloud cuckoo land.
Peter ********
Peter ********
For sure they will be changing it in the future. A 5 year visa for a cooking class is nuts
Andrew *******
Andrew *******
@Peter *******
they are still approving people for that, one guy posted a few days ago he got a DTV for a 30 day cooking class. I doubt they have plans to change anything, anytime soon
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
@Andrew ******
If it changes it will change after the election when the people ot was introduced to troll get back in power.
Chris **********
Chris **********
Under Thai law, visa categories and their conditions are created and amended through Cabinet policy and subordinate legislation issued under the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979), including Ministerial Regulations and Immigration Bureau Orders.

The Thai authorities therefore possess the legal power to amend or discontinue a visa category such as the Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) on a prospective basis. However, as a matter of administrative law and long standing practice, amendments to visa schemes are not applied retroactively so as to invalidate an already-granted permission of stay without notice or transitional arrangements.

Historically, where Thailand has altered visa programs or imposed new conditions (for example, retirement visas, elite visas, and COVID-era entry permissions), such changes have applied to new applicants or to future extensions, while existing visa holders were permitted to complete their current period of authorized stay or were granted transitional or “grandfathering” provisions.

Although an individual visa may be revoked in cases of fraud, misrepresentation, or violation of conditions, the blanket cancellation of an entire visa class for holders already lawfully admitted would require an express legal instrument and would ordinarily be accompanied by formal notice and transitional measures.

Accordingly, while the Thai government retains the legal authority to modify or terminate the DTV scheme in the future, there is no basis to assume that an existing DTV holder would be rendered unlawful solely by a policy change absent express retroactive effect and implementing regulations.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
The extension requirements were published months after the issuance of the first DTVs so changes (in the form of added rules) can also be applied to existing holders (MFA Vs Immigration); and we all know how these made an extension almost impossible. Yes they would probably not reconsider the 5 years granted but other changes are possible. While this is not common for older visas it is possible for newer ones such as the DTV.
Chris **********
Chris **********
Changing extension procedures is not the same as retroactively cancelling visas. Thailand may regulate future extensions, but lawful DTV stays are not voided without express legal instruments and transitional measures.
Chris **********
Chris **********
Anonymous participant 186 absolutely mate, and I've highlighted that in my comprehensive post on this page.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Chris *********
Definitely. And they will surely not cancel the DTV for an active holder (except misbehavior). What they can do is issue additional regulations (those not already covered by existing rules).
Hunter ************
Hunter ************
There have been reports of immigration requiring a Thai bank account in order to receive and extension. The easy work around is obviously to just take a holiday for a few days in a neighbouring SEA country by air.
Toni *******
Toni *******
@Hunter ***********
thats great news, because if its true, you can make assumption they are going to allow DTVers open bank accounts soon. But I think its false info, fearmongering gone wrong, because can think positive like this 😊
Chris **********
Chris **********
Someone was granted an extension recently without a Thai bank account in southern Thailand. The report of the bank account issue came from someone in Chiang Mai I believe.
Hunter ************
Hunter ************
Ya it could be dependant on the immigration office for a while before it becomes wide spread
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Hunter ***********
Yes, and things tend to move more toward restriction than flexibility here.
DTV_Be*******
DTV_Be*******
Mr doom and gloom dies clickbait titles for his videos

It’s a 5 year multi entry visa with 180 day segments

As of Jan
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nothing has stated you can’t live here for 5 years

So carry on and enjoy the visa and benefits that come with it
James ********
James ********
Correct 💯%
Toni *******
Toni *******
I have been here since sep '21. And with DTV since aug '24 done 3 sameday border runs, so yes living here fantastic life. No problems with dtv, only jealous anonymous trolls make up stories, dont worry about them, we with dtv are priviledged 🥰
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Toni ******
Please describe privileged!😅 No bank account, extensions with immigration are almost impossible (in the most recent news, they now require a bank account that you can’t even get?!), you must exit every 180 days, only a 2 year driver’s license in some office. And we have been discovering more and more limitations over time, not the other way around. I mean, yes, it’s a great visa if you want to stay here for some time, but presenting yourself as a privileged, well yeah not really. 😅
Derek *****
Derek *****
I see you’re the glass is half empty kind of person. It’s a great visa that lets you work in Thailand! What else could you ask for. There’s plenty of limitations in every country, even for Americans living in America.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 186 I have DTV and bank account
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 197 And used to have a long term visa, the probabilities you can open a new one with your DTV are almost inexistant.
Toni *******
Toni *******
Anonymous participant 186 you can give a better option for people under 50, which is not the elite visa. For
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thb, no paperwork for 5years is great, from pattaya its 3hours drive to get a new 180day stamp (when they stop playing wargames again). I have bangkok bank. 5year license is for only few visa types nowadays (and renewing takes less than 2hours total). I havent experienced any limitations in the past 16months with dtv here, only anonymous people who cant get dtv seem to have problems
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 638 You can't anymore.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
Participant anonyme 186 how you can have Bangkok bank ????
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Toni ******
Yes agree, that's what I say in my direct reply to OP. You're flexible. 👍
WhiteRa********
WhiteRa********
It’s really too early as like your mentioned it’s only been a 1.5 years since it got rolled out.

Better to see when we start to approach 3 to 5 years down the track.

Remote working stream wouldn’t have any issues for the full duration - soft power stream “potentially” shaky ground.

E.g Will immigration have issues with people doing a 6 months Muay Thai course which then finished and then live out the remaining 5.5 years in Thailand without any course to attend on the DTV - who knows!

On paper looks like you can but in reality we have to wait and see
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
WhiteRabbit7966 Remote working is exactly what they have been trying to weed out for years while allowing the soft power activities on Ed visas......
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
Anyone saying the DTV is "not intended for living in Thailand" is very light on brain cells.
Luit *****************
Luit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer 162 And anyone saying it is intended for living in Thailand is not only light on braincells, but does not have them at all.
WhiteRa********
WhiteRa********
Anonymous participant 162 it’s a great visa and avenue for those that want to live short to medium term. But it’s not a long term visa demonstrated by no pathway to Thai citizenship or Permanent residency, no eligibility for a Thai bank account etc

Your not eligible to be on the tabien (yellow house registration book) or receive your pink ID card

Assume some ppl on here probably won’t even know what those are - both essential for long term living in Thailand (I’m taking lining here and settling down) and being part of Thai society

Otherwise essentially your a forever tourist.
Derek *****
Derek *****
why would you want a path to citizenship. I just want to work remotely on the beach with a cocktail.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Derek ****
this. And why on earth would 10k thb just magically grant you a path to citizenship. People have spent 15 years investing in Thailand and still aren't citizens. The point about no path to citizenship is totally moot and just used to downplay a visa which drastically improved Thailand as a medium term destination for a lot of people.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 162 it’s a tourist visa
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 437 so is the elite visa , who cares , obviously you can live here with both
Andrew *******
Andrew *******
Anonymous participant 437 so is the elite visa, incredibly misinformed you seem to be
Nick *******
Nick *******
Anonymous participant 437 it isn't - it is in its own category. People saying 'its a tourist visa' as a way of scaremongering are a bit dim.
David ******
David ******
@Nick ******
Immigration class it as a tourist visa
Toni *******
Toni *******
Anonymous participant 437 for tourists who want to live here 5years without paperwork ❤️
Nick *******
Nick *******
@Andrew ********
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
@Nick ******
Classic personality disorder passport bro. Can't understand his own insults thrown back at him.
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
@Nick ******
you are dim.
Nick *******
Nick *******
@Andrew ********
do you need some help to understand what I meant when I said it’s a great visa? Is that too negative for you? Who is dim exactly? 😂😂
Nick *******
Nick *******
@Andrew ********
😂😂😂classic troll deflection. People can make their own minds up when they read the comments. Have a great day champ
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
@Nick ******
Youre a bit dim, bitter and negative about everything
Nick *******
Nick *******
@Andrew ********
so basically you make judgements and say I have no understanding of politics because we have different opinions. Right. Carry on.
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
@Nick ******
So basically you have no understanding of the politics behind this but want to shout down anyone that does.
Nick *******
Nick *******
@Andrew ********
or sad trolls trying to sound clever. Take your pick
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
@Nick ******
Or people who actually have a clue about Thai politics.
Andrew *******
Andrew *******
Nick *******
Nick *******
Anonymous participant 186 it's a fantastic visa. The only people that knock it are the ones that get rejected, or are in the bitter expat camp and are negative about everything.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Toni ******
And no bank account, very low chance to renew it with immigration, almost compulsory 180 days exit, etc. That's a global package 😜
DioPar******
DioPar******
It's good until now, I won't bet 10 baht it would last 5 yrs before the gove chsnges something
Toni *******
Toni *******
DioParco3474 can you imagine even 1 reason for them to do changes?
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
@Toni ******
Because the whole thing was a troll by Taksin.
Toni *******
Toni *******
@Andrew ********
many thai businesses offering soft power made a good money tho :)
DioPar******
DioPar******
@Toni ******
too many folks with DTV have ended up on the news cuz doing illegal stuff here.
Toni *******
Toni *******
DioParco3474 stuff they could have not done with other visa types?
Mark ********
Mark ********
@Toni ******
Yes,because of all the people that are abusing the intent of the DTV.
Toni *******
Toni *******
@Mark *******
you mean softpower? Well, thats true in a way... its true if the government meant them to continue their classes etc, but nowhere it says its requirement
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
DioParco3474 are you able to understand how many people are currently staying in Thailand on a DTV compared to the total number who visit each year? All the workcation DTV holders have been deemed low risk for a period of 5 years. The need to change it doesn't exist. They could stop offering it but current holders are definitely grandfathered in. Soft power is of course more fragile.
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
Anonymous participant 162 Man. Do you not understand it was bought in as a troll by Taksin/PT to troll his old rivals giving a ridiculous long visa to all the folks they hate and have been weeding out for years.

PT have been disposed and Taksin is supposedly in a jail cell.

They most likely are the ones who called in favours with the banks and immigration to make it less desirable until they get back in.
Mark ********
Mark ********
Anonymous participant 162 Grandfathered in🤣🤣How little of the real Thailand your rose tinted spectacles let you see. They will do what they want,when they want,because they want with no concern for anyone. Grandfathered,i nearly spat my beer out laughing🤣🤣
Mark ********
Mark ********
Anonymous participant 162 Glad you have so much experience of the Thai way,it must be awesome for you🤣 At what point did i mention "workcation? Your in fantasy land,its you that needs to sober up imagining i said things🤣🤣
Nick *******
Nick *******
@Mark *******
there are many examples of changes that have been made, where existing holders are protected. You sound like a 5 year old laughing the way you are at it.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Mark *******
another Thailand expert speaking in vague circles. You can't make a coherent point to explain why they'd even need to cancel people's workcation DTVs. "Just because they want too mate". Sober up and think about it.
DioPar******
DioPar******
Anonymous participant 162 Thailand has a strange way of making things and then the exact opposite. I wouldn't be any surprised if they suspend all the DTVs and come out with something different and more strict
James ********
James ********
Doubtful if any issued valid DTV visa is suspended. Thailand is known for its grandfathering re Thai Visas if and when changes are made to the Thai Visa in question.
Khun ******
Khun ******
No problems. Ignore the clowns on here who want it cancelled.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
No one has had anything like this.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
You will be fine until you are not😂 this is Thailand and anything can happen at any moment, there are no guarantees so enjoy it while it lasts
Chris **********
Chris **********
Yes there are legal guarantees mate
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Chris *********
Entry is not legally guaranteed regardless of the visa you have. Immigration can reject you based off of vibes if they so choose.

That being said, actually cancelling your visa is a different ordeal.
Chris **********
Chris **********
“Random enforcement” is a story people tell when they don’t know what the law says. There is such a strange mentality with old expats spreading complete crap Facebook😂
Chris **********
Chris **********
People can laugh, but that shows a lack of knowledge of Thai law and how it is used
Chris **********
Chris **********
Ok buddy 😂
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Chris *********
it takes a few years but you'll get there.. Boy, are you in for a paradigm shift 😁
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
@Chris *********
Thats sweet.
Chris **********
Chris **********
@And***
Thailand changes rules through law, not vibes. Discretion exists, but visas are created and amended by statute and regulation, not randomly cancelled overnight.
Chris **********
Chris **********
Anonymous participant 171 And I guess you've been here since the mid 90s and still think the systems stuck there with you 😂 read the law buddy
Andrew *********
Andrew *********
@Chris *********
Foreigners are nothing but pawns in the elites games which is exactly what the DTV is. Its the other sides turn after the election. They played their first move with immigration and the banks while waiting for that turn.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Chris *********
it shows how naive you are and how little you actually know, that's why they laugh. You are obviously quite new around here and soon will come to realize the way things work in this universe

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