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What can I do if I was denied entry to Thailand due to immigration rules regarding my family situation?
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Jun 19, 2025
10 months ago
Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTERHello guys sorry for my bad englisch
Just an bad expérience 3days ago in suvarnabhumi airport .
I am french citizen , 50 years old.
Came for m'y yearly hollidays there as since 15 years already done.
Done thè online arrival qr digital .
Immigration (very angry ) woman stop me and i follow her on a dark room filled with i believe illégal migrants (.....)
She saied that i not allowed enter in Thaïland anymore if i not do visas before departure.
Anyway i had a onward ticket show i will left thailand before thé legal tourists visa 2 month période actualy allowed
2024 i stay Thaïlande 2 month +1 month extension 1900 thb then 180 days in 2024
Never been oberstay , never done wrong .
She find all my history entering in Thaïland and say that " Sir you come to'much in Thaïland "
I have a 7years old son here , but cant afford visa with 400K deposit , i just want spend maximum time with him , as all father should do .
Not all of us are retired with solid pension , or sold home or buiseness in Europe for sho bank deposit .
I am sad to see that Thaïland turn as this and dont care about familly health .
Anyway if some of us have tips or had the same trouble recently , share it !
God bless you all
Chris
Just an bad expérience 3days ago in suvarnabhumi airport .
I am french citizen , 50 years old.
Came for m'y yearly hollidays there as since 15 years already done.
Done thè online arrival qr digital .
Immigration (very angry ) woman stop me and i follow her on a dark room filled with i believe illégal migrants (.....)
She saied that i not allowed enter in Thaïland anymore if i not do visas before departure.
Anyway i had a onward ticket show i will left thailand before thé legal tourists visa 2 month période actualy allowed
2024 i stay Thaïlande 2 month +1 month extension 1900 thb then 180 days in 2024
Never been oberstay , never done wrong .
She find all my history entering in Thaïland and say that " Sir you come to'much in Thaïland "
I have a 7years old son here , but cant afford visa with 400K deposit , i just want spend maximum time with him , as all father should do .
Not all of us are retired with solid pension , or sold home or buiseness in Europe for sho bank deposit .
I am sad to see that Thaïland turn as this and dont care about familly health .
Anyway if some of us have tips or had the same trouble recently , share it !
God bless you all
Chris
TLDR : Answer Summary
A French citizen shares a troubling experience with Thai immigration at Suvarnabhumi Airport, where he was told he could no longer enter Thailand without a visa due to his frequent visits. He discusses his desire to spend more time with his son, who resides in Thailand, but struggles with the financial requirements for obtaining the necessary family visa. The community responds with advice about different visa options, including applying for a NON-O visa before arriving in Thailand, and some express concerns about the changing immigration policies in Thailand. There are also discussions about the responsibilities of expatriates regarding immigration laws and the impact of such regulations on families.
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Since you do not have the 400k Baht to get the Thai Family Visa, then contact a Thai Visa agent about what they can do and how much they charge....
Gordon *******
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Steve *******
Philippines has 3 year tourist visa. Move there. Yeh Yeh I know , just a suggestion 😁
Wilsonti ***********
This page. Is a bunch of drama queens 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Marc *******
So Tourist numbers are going down and what do swampy immi? Give hard time....
Everybody should stop go Thailand, watch the shitshow and come back after they realize the earth is not moving around Thailand.
Everybody should stop go Thailand, watch the shitshow and come back after they realize the earth is not moving around Thailand.
Andy ************
@Marc ******
Why? Because a few morons trying to live in the country on free visas are melting down?Reply to
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Tom *****
Investis 175€ dans un visa touristique à entrées multiples et ton problème est résolu
Peter **********
get a proper visa, stop moaning
Wayne *********
I ask why do you have criticism for Thai immigration?
Look at your own country rules will they allow you to have your son with you because as you keep saying your a dad they should have compassion. Your govt don't care either same as Australia govt don't care. You must do relevant paperwork for an issue you sadly have in all countries.
Look at your own country rules will they allow you to have your son with you because as you keep saying your a dad they should have compassion. Your govt don't care either same as Australia govt don't care. You must do relevant paperwork for an issue you sadly have in all countries.
Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Wayne ********
in fact bring m'y son in France is easy more.Dont need to show 400K on bank account .
I'mean in Thaïland lot of father abandon them familly thai just because immigration is hasseling .
Stupid question....why they not allow any father staying with son without heavy visa ?
Wayne *********
@Chris ****
my point was you need to do paperwork for every country. Not just assume because your a dad you can do what you want.Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Wayne ********
yes i believe that .But 7 years ago everything was possible and easy in Thaïland .
Today isnt .
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Alain *******
Wayne Robertshe's French. People can break the law as they want in this country 😅
Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Alain ******
are you talking about Macron ?I am not Macron 😉
Just a french citizen white color skin.
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Ruud ******************
You were lucky for years, don’t complain when European expats want to take there relatives to France, look at the trouble they have ; in Europe we don’t have visa free arrivals.
Luc ************
Just get a tourist visa next time 🙄
Toon *********
My first question would be why are you having children in another country when you don't have the financial means to stay there? Seems fairly irresponsible :/
Ian *********
@Toon ********
a very stupid comment!Toon *********
@Bent ************
@Ian ********
Why is it nonsense? Why is it a stupid comment? Let's hear some actual arguments. I am an open minded person..Bent *************
@Toon ********
Don’t waist my time!Reply to
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Bent *************
@Toon ********
Nonsense!Reply to
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Kenny **********
Guys Brandon is only answering the questions raised in this forum with cold hard facts. Yes everyone has unique situations where they want things to pan out their way and sometimes some people get lucky with the rules and some people don’t.
When I first started planning my move here I asked a number of questions and some of the responses I received I didn’t like but the rules are the rules and Brandon is simply quoting them.
When I first started planning my move here I asked a number of questions and some of the responses I received I didn’t like but the rules are the rules and Brandon is simply quoting them.
Diane ********
@Kenny *********
thank you making it hard for us who are trying to enter the country and doing our researchReply to
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Nongnuch ********
@Chris ****
Brandon is right. You cannot stay in Thailand on a tourist visa or on a visa-exempt any longer than 180 days within a 365 days period.
An Immigration officer has the right to deny entry if he/she thinks that you are misusing the visa-exempt entry as a means for a longstay in Thailand.
They will, at some point after they see the many entries and extension stamps in your passport, tell you that you are supposed to "get the right visa for your purpose of stay".
At this moment, you are standing in front of the officer as a wannabe "tourist", NOT as the father of a half Thai child, because you are NOT entering Thailand on the purpose of being a legal father to a half Thai child. Brandon wasn’t judging you – he just explained correctly how the Immigration officer sees you. You being not married to a mother of your half Thai son, “doesn’t cut any ice”, as we use to say. It doesn’t count!
You must get the right visa that fits your purpose of stay. There is a visa based on being a father to a half Thai child. Why don’t you apply for it before you travel?
WHY do you not apply for it on the E-visa system of the Royal Thai Embassy in Paris? This visa category would be a "90-days Non-Imm-O Visa based on supporting a half Thai child". With this visa, you can get a "1-year stay permit" for Thailand. You earn more than the required 40,000 THB you need to be able to apply for this visa.
So, GET OFF YOUR LAZY BUTT and check out your visa-options, instead of trying to enter without a visa and risking to get denied entry because Immigration sees it as “you have been in Thailand without a visa too long”
Jay *******
@Nongnuch *******
interesting, thanks..didn't know about fingerprintHaven't been in Thailand for 12 years
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Jay *******
@Nongnuch *******
does that also apply for people with 2 passports??dual citizens?I assumed I could bounce in and out using visa exempt on my 2 passports and stay longer than 180 days?
Nongnuch ********
@Jay ******
two different passports, this doesn't work, because you give your fingerprints. If your method is detected, you are risking a denial of entryReply to
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Andy **********
Contact agents in Pattaya, enquire about the multiple entry retirement visa, they will explain everything.
Alex *********
tbh going to that airport was your first mistake. if youre a regular theyll turn you away. there's also no limit on visa exempt so idk why everyone so mad. If its so frown upon put a limit on it then, not just when immigration trying to look like a tough guy and at the same time the government complaining about foreigner revenue
FYIAnony********
@Alex ********
actually it is a very fair policy, allowing "tourists" to come and go without issue. You can come in and out unlimited, as long as you are not trying to live in Thailand as a "tourist". At some point an IO will suspect or decide you are trying to live and will warn or deny entry. For example if you came for 30 days and left for 30 days multiple times a year(as some workers do) no problem. They may let that go on for who knows how long.But of you enter and extend for 90 days and then bounce out and back again... they think you are trying to live in Thailand and probably are.Reply to
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Stephen ******
I think you're confusing a holiday with living here that's why they're questioned you
Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Stephen *****
yes maybe.But since last years it was possible as i do.
Then that why i décide make familly here.
Today rules change ....not m'y familly
Not fair
I
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Giovanni **********
I'm only planning on staying in Thailand 6 months of the year. I got a non O Visa....... No headaches
Terary **********
Travel by land - if they turn you away its easier to come back the next day.
Every immigration officer is different. If you talked to a different IO you would likely have a different experience. Choose your IO wisely.
Every immigration officer is different. If you talked to a different IO you would likely have a different experience. Choose your IO wisely.
Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Terary *********
what IO ?Thanks
And yes all agents are différents .
Next time i will maybe fly for Vientiane and come Thaïland by land .
Thanks !
Terary **********
@Chris ****
IO - Immigration OfficerReply to
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FYIAnony********
The OP cannot stay that long in Thailand on tourist entries anymore.
At some point an IO decides that's enough.
If he has a child in Thailand this is his cheapest option:
90 day non-o visa based on Thai family e-visa .
Then apply for a 60 day visit Thai family as it comes to an end at his local immigration office.
This will give him 5 months no problem.
How many times in a row they will allow it who knows.
But some do this multiple times with no issue.
As it is the correct entry visa.
The cannot afford it doesn't excuse anyone from the rules.
The rules are in place to ensure we can afford to live here on the correct type of visa.
At some point an IO decides that's enough.
If he has a child in Thailand this is his cheapest option:
90 day non-o visa based on Thai family e-visa .
Then apply for a 60 day visit Thai family as it comes to an end at his local immigration office.
This will give him 5 months no problem.
How many times in a row they will allow it who knows.
But some do this multiple times with no issue.
As it is the correct entry visa.
The cannot afford it doesn't excuse anyone from the rules.
The rules are in place to ensure we can afford to live here on the correct type of visa.
Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@FYIAnony********
5 month a year its ....good .I believe that i must stop dream live withy son in Thaïland .
Only 5 month .
Thanks you Thaïland
FYIAnony********
@Chris ****
NO thats not what I said. You would then go home (or wherever)and apply again for another 90 days and then repeat the process. You could then likely get as close to a year ata time as you can. This method breaks no rules and is appropriate. But ends up costing for flights and visas. The smartest way to do this is for you to beg and borrow the 400k and get setup correctly in Country with yearly extensions. Possibly an agent can arrange at a cost of course. I would do the the 90+60 method as long as you can and during that time find a permanent solution.Reply to
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Nick ************
Staying in a country for 9 months is not tourism. Secondly, respect a country's immigration laws. EU is not any better.
Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTERGarrett ***********
@Nick ***********
If he's never overstayed then he has respected the lawsReply to
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John **********
You know what the solution is, you even mentioned it yourself. You are not a genuine tourist so get the visa that applies to your situation, 400k baht is not a huge amount of money and you don't even need to maintain it in the bank for longer than a couple of months. I'm sure you'll easily spend that in a year in Thailand
Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@John *********
yes sure .But in France is not easy thing to do .
I will learn about that right now.
Thanks
Andy ********
@John *********
he did state he can't afford that at the momentThomas *******
@Andy *******
that's his problem then, not anyone else's. He has a child in Thailand but can't afford the proper visa to see said child and now Thailand is the bad guy because he wants to come and go as he pleases, and the IO said not anymore. Granted, without black and white on paper rules as far as entries go it doesn't make it any easier to know if the next trip is the one that he'll get hung up on.John **********
@Andy *******
I read that but I'm sure he could find a way round that if he really wanted to, even borrowing the money for the 2 months he needs it for.Reply to
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Alain *******
So did you have to go back to France or did they let you go in ?
Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Alain ******
after all another agent let me go in after two hours .Alain *******
@Chris ****
you can find some agents on fb that will come pick you up in the airport so you won't have to worryChris *****
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Jack *****
I applied for the Non O visiting Thai family on line with the Thai Embassy in Los Angeles.. only thing they asked extra was a letter from the family accepting me as their guest... cost was approx $80... 90 days... same day uploaded the letter and was approved same day..
Ron ******
So the immigration officer was doing her job.
Braulio *********
@Ron *****
Yes she was!! God bless her!Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Ron *****
you angry bird mate 😉Michael *******
@Chris ****
you are suffering the consequences of the thousands who manipulate visa rules and Thailand like many countries are clamping down hence people crossing the English Channel from your country to find refuge in the UK in rubber dinghies - world is a screwed up place hope you find a solution to spend time with your kid, too many have been abandoned here….Reply to
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Ter ******
Use an agent to get you safe entry service. This is a simple solution for your situation
Ernesto ********
Shameful to leave your child in the first place.
Steve *******
Ernesto Galvanthe cock head has spoken. You are a total nob jockey. I bet you took 17 covid shots just to be safe. What sort of an ass hole would say that to a guy wanting to see his kid. Ernesto the gaybo is your new name. Bet you Chock into the lady boys on a regular basis. Least he can reproduce not like your " girl " friend with a sausage 🌭 between her legs ..queer cunt
Mark ********
@Ernesto *******
you’re a horrible little twat!! Someone block him.This page is meant for advice, not to kick people while they are down!!
Glen ********
@Ernesto *******
idiot.Ernesto ********
@Glen *******
is that the best you got ?Reply to
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Farang *********
@Ernesto *******
I going to very blunt. You are an a**hole for saying something so mean. We do not need your hateful input. You have no idea what a person personal situation is.Ernesto ********
@Farang ********
he’s dug the hole. He has abandon his child and has someone else raise his kid. He knew the consequences. It’s affecting his holiday visa and now he’s upset. Quit coddling peopleErnesto ********
@Farang ********
don’t cry to me . Dude abandoned his kid like a lot of farangs have done. Cowards don’t speak about it.Farang *********
@Ernesto *******
abandoned his kid. So why does he want to visit.Not everyone is as fortunate as you. Posting everywhere you have been to say look at me.
You dig a hole and just keep digging.
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@Ernesto *******
unfortunately for some of us it is not smooth sailing, especially if you do not know the choices he had to makeErnesto ********
@Paul *******
i know the one choice he made.Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Paul *******
hard choice yes.Beeing séparéd from a familly member because stupid rules is crazy .
My son Ask me frequently "why you cant stay with me all days as my Friends thai dads ?"
Or "Why you like stay in France better than play with me ?"
What can i reply him....
Anyway i earn 50.000 thb of my soldier pension
Nongnuch ********
@Chris ****
if you earn 50,000 THB pension monthly, you can apply for the 90-days Non-Imm-O Visa based on supporting a half-Thai child. You need a Thai family court order that says that you are the legal father of the child. Based on this income and the fathership, you can apply for the "90-days Non-Imm-O Family Visa" in France. You enter Thailand on this visa, get stamped in for 90 days. As soon as 30 days are left from these 90 days stay permit, you can apply for the "1-year Extension of the stay permit based on supporting a half-Thai child". For this application you need to prove your monthly income of 50,000 THB by an "income affidavit" issued by your French Embassy in Bangkok. Thai Immigration will issue a one-year temporary stay permit. Every year, you can apply for the next "1-year Extension of the stay permit", until your son is 18 years old, from then on, you will need a different solutionReply to
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Paula *********************
@Tony ************
What is the world coming to, that gives everyone the right to be judge and jury????!!! Live and let live and stop judging others!!!!😡🤬Peter ***********
@Ernesto *******
bit rough to say that pal he says he hasn't the money .why you say crap like that hope it never happens to you.sorry yes I do.Ernesto ********
@Peter **********
I was brought up better. My father stayed with our familyDid *****
@Ernesto *******
you're a lousy moral apostle, patheticPeter ***********
@Ernesto *******
should have taught you some manners then.Reply to
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Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Peter **********
some guys act as they are boss farang .They think they do better than anybody .
I am just a father want stay with familly .
I am army soldier retiréd.
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Ernesto ********
@Tony ************
don’t care about personal circumstances when it comes to abandoning a child. I’m sure he didn’t care when he got the lady pregnant. He doesn’t even do 90 day family visa. He doesn’t seem to care about the child just the holiday.Jordan *****
@Ernesto *******
One reason why someone can’t bring their family home is immigration laws, like in the UK where the spouse can’t immigrate unless they have a high paying job waiting for them, so this is one reason why in many cases the child has to stay in Thailand with the mother. What you are doing is just assuming things in bad faithErnesto ********
@Jordan ****
that’s fine I suppose. Just go out and impregnate, abandon and then blame immigration. Brilliant plan.Jordan *****
@Ernesto *******
as long as they visit them several months a year and financially support them you can hardly say they are abandoned. I guess by your criteria the millions of parents on this planet who have to work in another city have abandoned their families.Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Jordan ****
exact .In France they allow africains people easy .
Anyway they will only take money from social helps.
But make things easier for my thai wife and my son come in France is....not possible .
Then only one choice is my son stay with my gf in Thaïland and doing my best for accept it
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Gilles ******
@Ernesto *******
Ernesto Galvan you are sure of nothing calm down a bit 🙏Ernesto ********
@Gilles *****
what does that even mean ?Reply to
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Ernesto *******
hey buddy ... this is your case ??How are you for talk as this ?
All father will telling you that its a Big pain cannot stay with son.
Maybe more than you can imagine with your limited brain
Ernesto ********
@Chris ****
I call a deadbeat when I see one. It’s everyone’s case when you cry on Facebook. I ain’t your buddy. Abandon your child and only see him on YOUR vacation. Don’t even have the balls to get proper visiting family visa.Reply to
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Tony *************
@Ernesto *******
how do you know what his personal circumstances are goody two shoesTony *************
@Andrew ************
I haven’t got a problem. She’s the one with the problem making comments on peoples lives and she has no clue what the circumstances are. But I can guess she’s a Bible basher and I can guess that you’re a bellend.Andrew *************
@Tony ************
WTF is your problemReply to
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Steve ***********
It's Africans in general, all over Bangkok.
Men and women, harassing tourists and intimidating pedestrians
Men and women, harassing tourists and intimidating pedestrians
Av **********
@Steve **********
u r just rac-stSteve ***********
@Av *********
no, the point of the post is people being denied visa or discrimination against good people entering the Country. While prostitute and drug dealers of foreign countries roam rhe streets.Av **********
@Steve **********
excuse me Mr I know everyone's business....stfu and go back to ur brown girlfriend and tell her I only love u because ur the shade of brown I like.....any darker then she'd be a criminal too....u r disgustinnnnggggLoraine ***********
@Av *********
wow bitch, harshReply to
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@Steve **********
wow that's a bit much. It was the Africans in bangkok who came to my aid when I was being attacked. It was the Africans in bangkok who helped me during the red shirt time when we couldn't get food to our building......Alex ********
@Steve **********
I have seen that In Spain alsoMarcus **********
@Steve **********
You never been to Paris? Or many other European cities? 😀Braulio *********
@Marcus *********
Go to Paris and be a victim of an African pick pocket.Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Marcus *********
yes in France Paris ....soon no white mans.Reply to
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Stuart ***********
I think immigration are only doing their job, but I hope there is a way you can continue to see your son.
As Anna suggested, can you get the 'visiting family' visa or failing that, what about getting a non-OA visa as that doesn't require a deposit in Thailand?
As Anna suggested, can you get the 'visiting family' visa or failing that, what about getting a non-OA visa as that doesn't require a deposit in Thailand?
Stuart ***********
Yes it is a requirement, but if someone is coming to Thailand that doesn't have a sum of money for an emergency, it makes sense to have it. I don't know how much it costs as it will depend on the individuals background (age, existing medical conditions etc).
Stuart **********
@Stuart **********
is insurance a requirement for ao visa,and if so what does insurance costChris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Stuart **********
non OA ok i will check that right now .Problem is France dont share many posts about visa .
Englisch , usa , share more tips 🙏
Thomas *******
The OA requires proof of insurance and money in his bank account. If he doesn't have the 400k to show to apply for the non-o in his bank account in France, wouldn't it be the same result for the OA visa?
Nongnuch ********
@Thomas ******
for the O/A visa, the deposit in the account must be 800,000 THB equivalent in Euros. Or proof of a monthly income of 65,000 THB equivalent in Euros. @Stuart **********
He has neither the required money in the bank, nor a sufficient income - he said he earns 50,000 THB. He can however apply for the "support of half Thai child" visa - the Non-Imm-O Family visa, based on his income. In France, he can use his original pernsion documents, and on the Immigration in Thailand for the application to the "one-year extension", he can use the "affidavit of income" from the French Embassy in BangkokReply to
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@Chris ****
good luck, I hope you get what you need.Reply to
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Doug ********
Try to get 90 day non o visa from within France before you leave. The financial banking requirements are not so high. It only costs 1900 baht and will know before.you leave that you will probably be allowed entry. That is still however up to the immigration officer you are in arrival
Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTER@Doug *******
yes i believe have to do that .Sadly in France now agency for help do that .
DIY can be a nightmare for a newbie as me
Doug ********
Chris TorI promise you don't need agent in France to get 90 day non o.
I am not skilled in computer use etc. The retirement non o 90 application really is very very Easy to complete. Just go to the thai official e visa website. Very few questions and very easy to complete. Just do it
I am not skilled in computer use etc. The retirement non o 90 application really is very very Easy to complete. Just go to the thai official e visa website. Very few questions and very easy to complete. Just do it
Did *****
@Chris ****
franchement c'est super simpleChris *****
ORIGINAL POSTERDid *****
@Chris ****
Vu que Facebook traduit les posts (bon ok c'est parfois pas top) pourrais même demander de l'aide/conseils sur ce groupe si tu patauge pour ta demande de Visa. J'ai déjà vu plusieurs francophones faire des demandes en français et recevoir pas mal de réponses en anglais en retour ;) Le plus important pour le visa "Non-O" (90j) est que ton enfant soit reconnu comme étant le tien.
Voici les infos et documents nécessaires au point 2 sur cette page
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La paperasse ennuyante c'est pour prolonger un Visa.
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Mike **********
Thailand seems to have lost it’s formerly status as
The Land of Smiles
The Land of Smiles
Andy ************
@Mike *********
So anyone who wants to abuse the immigration system should be allowed to? HmmmmEgger *********
@Andy ***********
yes and we could get free hotels accommodation , food and money to live on ?Wait that’s what we do in Europe .
Mike **********
@Andy ***********
that’s NOT what I said. You are good at putting your words in someone else’s mouth.Andy ************
@Mike *********
You'd best read the original postReply to
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Jordan *****
@Andy ***********
there is no abuse unless a law has been violated, or attempts were made to circumvent it.Since there is no limit by law on how many days per calendar year you can spend in Thailand on visa exempt status, or tourist visa, we can’t say that he abused anything
Andy ************
@Jordan ****
Living in a country supporting a child is not exactly tourism is it? I live here legally on the proper visa - I still get the smiles!Reply to
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Tommy *******
Salut chris. Fait une demande de visa touristique avant ton départ. Sinon t'es un peu con et très raciste. Aurevoir.
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regle tes problèmes avec Israël Iran...ou le racisme est omniprésent au niveau supérieur .Gilles ******
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en Quoi il est raciste trou du cul 😁Andrew ********
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Chris *****
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non détrompe toi 😅Je dis juste que certaines personnes ne devraient pas être ici je'peux aussi dire les indiens qui bosse tnpartout sans visa , les cambodgiens. ,et j en passe , et effectivement je ne comprends pas.piurquoi ces filles nigeriennes arrivent à rester ici et moi...pas .
Les thai sont racistes .
Moi je constate simplement
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Av **********
First off, those Nigerian girls have nothing to do with your case - so let's not throw other people under this imaginary bus. Second, if they are telling you to get a family visa because of your son, then contact some visa agents..or since ur 50 get a retirement visa.
Cruise ******
@Av *********
isn't retirement visa freeDiane ********
@Cruise *****
no I’m doing that currently you have to show money in the bank if not you can show what you receive monthly as another option. That’s what I doing and that visa is 80.00. You also have to show the new card they are doing 3 days before you get there. Doing all this before I leave and praying I won’t have any problemsMarcus **********
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no.Cruise ******
@Marcus *********
I meant you just need to show proof of funds in bank account 800k THBbut you do not need to pay for the visa other than the processing fees. Is my understanding not correct?Marcus **********
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by definition process fees (b2k) at 3 +12 months means not free.Reply to
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Anna *********
Can’t you get a visa for ‘visiting Thai family’ next time you want to visit your son.
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he’s not visiting his son, he’s on holiday. He may “run”into his son on accident.Christopher ******
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you don't know that.Ernesto ********
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he said it himself.Reply to
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not true or helpfulErnesto ********
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Brandon ************
180 days in 2024 is not a holiday. That's living in Thailand. The fact that you have a son here is not relevant. You are not entering on that basis, you are entering as a tourist and trying to live here as a tourist, which is abusing the system. They've told you now that it's unacceptable. So you either need to find another option, or you need to act like an actual tourist if you want to enter as one.
Stephen **********
@Brandon ***********
Well anybody with an American tourist visa can stay for 180 days, others too probably, so the length of stay wouldn't automatically classify any tourist as living in the host country. 180 days doesn't mean you are trying to live anywhere - if you establish a homestead (rent long-term, build a house, have a job with your contact being in said country, etc. would indicate living there.
I would think putting your life on hold and visiting family for 6 months wouldn't automatically declassify anybody from being a tourist.
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yes right .But 10 years ago rules was easier that made me think was possible doing plan in Thaïland and make familly.
Today with new rules by new Girl PM ....make things harder.
In France migrants come illégaly get home , phone , clothes , food for free.
In Thaïland migrants anyway can spend 60.000 /monthly are not welcome anymore .
That's a pity but yes i understand that must follow immigration rules.
Not all of us can show 800K in bank account .
If you get money by online marketplace , its not accepted for money deposit show
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@Stephen *********
Firstly there is no 180 day rule, that is up to the IO, secondly, the OP doesn'y apply for a visa but uses visa exempt entries and thirdly, staying 6 months a year in Thailand with 2 entries is not seen as typical tourist behaviourReply to
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Braulio *********
@Brandon ***********
Solid advice! OP needs a Visa.....Paul ********
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Brandon if you haven’t walked in some else’s shoes don’t Judge, you really don’t know the choices he has had in life.Brandon ************
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I'm not judging. I'm being blunt and telling it like immigration sees it. Coddling is not going to help this person get into Thailand and will only result in them getting denied entry and possibly losing thousands of dollars.Reply to
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God I bet your fun at parties 🎈Chris *****
ORIGINAL POSTERBrandon Thurkettle you look like boss in Thaïland ??
Are you doing rules there ????
Who can say "you are inacceptable "
180 days is actually ok in Thaïland .
I didint do border run or something like this .
I just share a expérience mate 😉
And i am sad that Thaïland dont look case by case .
Have a familly its the most important thing in the world , and let a son griwing without father its inacceptable anyway what country is it
Are you doing rules there ????
Who can say "you are inacceptable "
180 days is actually ok in Thaïland .
I didint do border run or something like this .
I just share a expérience mate 😉
And i am sad that Thaïland dont look case by case .
Have a familly its the most important thing in the world , and let a son griwing without father its inacceptable anyway what country is it
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You are legally retarded.Nongnuch ********
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Brandon is right. You cannot stay in Thailand on a tourist visa or on a visa-exempt any longer than 180 days within a 365 days period. An Immigration officer has the right to deny entry if he/she thinks that you are misusing the visa-exempt entry as a means for a longstay in Thailand. They will, at some point after they see the many entry and extension stamps in your passport, tell you that you are supposed to "get the right visa for your purpose of stay". At this moment, you are standing in front of the officer as a wannabe "tourist", NOT as the father of a half Thai child, because you are NOT entering Thailand on the purpose of being a legal father to a half Thai child. However, there IS such a visa, so WHY do you not apply for it on the E-visa system of the Royal Thai Embassy in Paris? This visa category would be a "90-days Non-Imm-O Visa based on supporting a half Thai child". With this visa, you can get a "1-year stay permit" for Thailand. You earn more than the required 40,000 THB you need to be able to apply for this visa. So GET OFF YOUR LAZY BUTT and check out your visa-options, instead of trying to enter without a visaReply to
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@Brandon ***********
wow! Get off your high horse telling him what he can or cannot do, or what is relevant or acceptable. The guy said hes visiting his son, why do you say it’s irrelevant? Hes legally allowed 180 days in the country, it didn’t say he spent all that time there, why do you challenge that? How do you know how a tourist is expected to behave when they have family in the country? He already stated he could not afford a specific visa, so what’s it to you to be judge juror and executor?
You need to act like an actual passive human being and not be so vindictive(?) and nasty. 💁🏼♂️😳🫤
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@Anthony *********
You have very thin skin, and I don't think you've understood the true concept of the system. Brandon is talking about. Would you tell an immigration agent it was inhumane? Think again.Jared **********
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there’s no high horse or need for you to be melodramatic, also there is no “he’s legally allowed”, he can stay and enter as long as thailand immigration lets himHis son and family is irrelevant on tourist visas or visa exempts
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@Anthony *********
the OP stated when asked that his main purpose was to visit his son, not tourism. He did not have the correct visa for that purpose.Nongnuch ********
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having a half Thai child doesn't cut any ice with Thai Immigration, as long as the OP continues to enter visa exempt. The OP however always had the option to apply for the right visa on the purpose "supporting a half Thai child", and change it into a "1-year stay permit". I don't know why he never made any attempt to get this visa and the subsequent extension, since the birth of his son he is free to use this option. He said he is making 50,000 THB per month on a soldier's pension, this income is enough to get him the 90-days Non-Imm-O family visa, and the 1-year Extension of stay based on supporting a half Thai child. Brandon is VERY correct in telling him that for the Thai Immigration, to have a half Thai child born out of wedlock, there is NO reason to allow him multiple visa-exempt entries, and that's whats to itBrandon ************
@Anthony *********
because it's literally not relevant to the immigration officer. They won't care. So it doesn't matterJo **********
@Brandon ***********
you are right of course. he should get a dependent visa, or whatever it is, my friend has visa based on having a sonMark *******
There are no limits on arrival and departure from Thailand by air! Endex!
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@Mark ******
There has always been a limit.Mark *******
Not on flying in and out there isn't! Doesn't mean that will be acceptable, but that fact is stated!
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@Mark ******
clearly there isMark *******
That is the issue,they should care! After all they're professionals are they not...?!
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@Anthony *********
Lighten up. Brandon has always offered solid advice.Ar *******
@Braulio ********
I totally agree , Brandon is correct , his way of stating it makes it clear, it’s just hard for some people to hear the truth my friend was in similar position, no child but he visited twice , he was nearly refused entry second time , so when he returns with us in September he is going to get a vip entry to get hi. In safely and then hopefully a retirement multi entry visa so he can come and go easier. It’s well documented that immigration are clamping down. I sympathise but I agree with everything Brandon says, he’s not being nasty just direct.Reply to
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@Anthony *********
he stated that he stayed 60+30 then another 180 days in 2024 that’s definitely trying to live here as a tourist,if he has a son and he’s on the birth certificate then apply for the proper visa to many people trying to stay long time without a visaChris *****
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@Anthony *********
apparently we are supposed to determine ourselves how many days we can stay as tourists on visa exemptions since the Thai law cares not to limit it, and it your subjective notion of what a tourist is happens to not align with the immigration officers, then you will get berated for “staying in Thailand too much”.Tracy *********
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right on! So many here like him. Always try make like he’s better.Reply to
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