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What are the requirements and recent experiences for converting a tourist visa to a Non-O retirement visa in Thailand?

Kevin *******
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A couple of questions about doing an in‑country conversion to a Non‑O retirement visa.

I’ll be entering Thailand on a tourist visa and hope to convert it to a 90‑day Non‑O based on retirement. I already have an active Thai bank account.

I understand that getting the Non‑O from my home country is preferred, but my challenge is that my retirement funds won’t be liquid until January 2027 and then the money would need to season for three months in my US account before I can apply. I’m hoping to arrive sometime in late 2026 and then convert to the Non‑O early 2027 once the funds are available.

My understanding is that for the initial Non‑O in country, the international transfer does not need to season in the account — is that still correct?

Also,has anyone recently done this conversion at Pathum Thani immigration?

Appreciate any recent experiences or advice.
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The user plans to convert a tourist visa to a Non-O retirement visa upon entering Thailand but faces challenges due to the liquidity of retirement funds. They seek confirmation on whether international transfers require seasoning and share concerns about immigration office policies. Comments provide insights into the varying requirements at different immigration offices, experiences with conversions, and alternatives to applying for the Non-O visa in neighboring countries.
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Martin *******
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I did it twice in country after different work assignments, albeit many years ago. Jomtien immigration told me to make sure money had been seasoned for 2 months before applying for the non-0. As I said, it was many years ago, so things may have changed.
Bob **********
Bob **********
You may have a problem with your Thai bank as you can’t have an account in a tourist visa you’ll need the 800k here why don’t you apply at home the funds can be in any bank
Curt **********
Curt **********
It depends on which office you go to but in Ubon going from tourist to retirement requires a letter from your embassy verifying your income and if you’re from the US, that embassy quit doing that 4-5 years ago.

The solution is go to Lao, (Savanakhet for example) and get a 90 day non-o retirement. They only require bank statements and proof of income for the 65K method, I’m not sure how long you would need 800k in the bank if you went that way.

After the 90 day you can can do a renewal and extend for a year. No embassy letter required for that.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
I believe Jomtien is the only office that requires the funds to be seasoned for a conversion from tourist to non-O visa.

You would need to check with Pathum Thani immigration to see if they support conversions from tourist to non-O visa. Not every immigration office supports this.

The other issue you may run into is that you need at least 14-21 days left on your stamp at the time you apply for the extension, so depending on when you enter Thailand and when you'll have your money in place, you might not have enough time. You should definitely apply for a tourist visa to maximize and get up to 90-days to get everything done, if that immigration office allows conversions.

You do need to make sure that the transfer of your funds shows as an international transfer as that's a requirement for in country conversions.
Kevin *******
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@Brandon ***********
Thx, Brandon. I'll definitely work out the timing, and I'm using Wise so I think i can label the transfer as "funds for long term stay". Although I think I may have an issue at immigration in Pathum Thani. An option I'm considering is booking a stay in Bangkok, getting a TM 30 from the hotel, and then using the Chaengwattana immigration office to file the TM.87 where they seem more likely to do in country conversions. Any roadblocks you can see if I try that route?
John **********
John **********
@Kevin ******
if you have an issue getting the Non-O at Pathum Thani it's probably easier just to jump over to Laos and apply for the 90 day Non-O there
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Kevin ******
they could request a lease, I just don't know. Not many people do conversions anymore.

Nothing preventing you from going to both immigration offices and asking for their handout showing requirements to do the conversion.

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