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What are the important considerations for obtaining a visa to live in Thailand?

Mar 28, 2025
4 days ago
Jeffery *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hi all

I have only recently joined this group and to be frank I am amazed at the level of questions being asked every day. It appears to me that the visa process is an absolute minefield or am I being somewhat naive.

I would suggest that a lot of questions could be answered by contacting the Thai authorities in the home countries of those asking. I am about to embark on a 3 week fact finding mission to Pattya to check out locales etc with a view to perhaps returning full time. In that instance I will be sitting down with my local Thai consulate and finding out from them what my responsibilities are.

Any thoughts appreciated as I am nervous about the whole process given what I read here on any given day.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
A new member expresses concern over navigating the visa process for Thailand, referring to it as a 'minefield.' Members offer various insights, emphasizing the importance of consulting official sources and using the online e-visa system instead of in-person visits to consulates. They suggest gathering information from immigration offices while in Pattaya and warn against misinformation. The conversation highlights the different visa types and requirements based on personal circumstances like retirement or work, advising thorough research and adherence to rules to avoid issues.
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Chang ******
Chang ******
I totally agreed with but people need Dialogue among the humans

Communication and talking each other is important between people .

Just be help

Everyone is not high educated like you sir, I have low IQ myself so please forgive me
Paul *******
Good luck to you attempting to get any kind of communication with your Thai embassy/consulate
Jeffery *******
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@Paul ******
thanks Paul...looks like online is the only way these days...the way of the world it seems .....
William ******
Exactly.
David **********
Thai embassies typically have completely wrong or out of date information.......
Erhardt *********
I hope you understand the if you are a person on a pension from NZ which is what I assume, you will lose your pension after 3 months
Jeffery *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
Fully understand that (6 months actually) and has been factored into my spreadsheet !!!😃
Erhardt *********
@Jeffery ******
My wife also a NZ’er has a friend which wanted to go to Australia. She mentioned it. It’s certainly not fair but I guess they want to keep people in New Zealand. A British government will pay their pension, but they are frozen at the time they leave so there won’t be any increases over the years.

I’m planning on moving to Pattaya in the fall.
Jeffery *******
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I am yet to phone the govt to get clear understanding as people hgave differing views. As fas as I am aware you have to return after 6 mths and then wait for another 6 until you can go again but others tell me that they wait a month and they go again...I think it has something to with how many years you have paid tax in NZ..personally I am not hopeful as I spent 19 years out of the country...we shall see...
Dwayne ********
Best just come using Thai embassy website. I never sought fb until Covid because the rules were changing so much. Just ignore groups and just come. Pattaya is more for either a certain type of tourist or a weathered foreigner that wants beach relaxation, same with Phuket.
Stuart ***********
It seems bewildering when you are at the planning stage, but when you start the process you realise it is quite simple really.

Get a non O visa based on retirement before you come to Thailand online from the Thai Embassy.

Travel to Thailand, open a bank account and transfer 800,000 baht immediately.

Go to immigration and get a list of their requirements to extend your stay.

Wait until your money has been in your account for 2 months then go to the immigration office with everything on their list of requirements. You will need to complete one A4 form with simple questions like; name, passport number, date of arrival etc. Pay 1,900 Baht and that's it for a year.

You do the immigration office part each year to extendyour stay for another year. Good luck.
James ******
All areas and visa can be different with different levels of acceptance so those who have already experienced and have first hand knowledge can be very valuable for help.
Tom ********
Pattaya is a cesspit. go to Hua hin instead, less crowded and a more relaxed vibe.
Julian *******
What you have to understand is each immigration office has different policies and requirements based on numerous factors , the man in charge , if the individual officer got laid that morning and which way the wind is blowing. It sounds ridiculous but it’s actually true.
Paul *******
@Julian ******
i can believe that , amazing thailand eh
Andy ******
Always best to go to immigration than to ask on Facebook.
Dany ********
Many thai embassies are nearly impossible to contact.
Allan **************
Hi Jeffery don't get a visa at home when you're in Pattaya go to immigration and talk to them or look up visa agents and talk to some of them good luck and enjoy.
Stuart ***********
@Allan *************
why make it more complicated and be forced to use an agent?

Much easier now to get the visa before coming to Thailand, since they made it virtually impossible to open a bank account without a long term visa.
Ruth *******
Honestly, the Thai consulates and embassies know very little about immigration. I was given misinformation that cost me greatly by talking to a consulate after my passport was stolen while out of the country.

Your best resources are actually groups like this, but you’ll need to learn who to trust or who not. Reading through the history here will give you your sea legs. You could also stop at immigration while you are here and ask your questions if you’re still nervous, although you may get different answers depending upon region or even officer.
Mikkel *******
You didn't say anything about what you plan to do in Thailand full time. Retirement? Work in Thailand? Remote work? Study?

That's sort of important as your "responsibilities" (read; requirements) are very different for the different kinds of visas available. So without knowing anything about what you might qualify for or what your aim is, nobody can give you any usable advice.
Brendon ******
@Jeffery ******
The Thai Embassy in Wellington will direct you to their website and the e-visa process. From experience they do not do face to face meetings.
Tony **********
It's not really a minefield. There are rules and processes to follow. Can be a bit tedious, but very doable. All the minefield you hear are about people trying to circumvent the process, bribe officials through agents and not understanding what's required.

While your in pattaya, go to an immigration office and ask for handouts on requirements for visas and extensions of stay based on your age or martial status. There's a lot of noise in here and lots of repeat questions. If you read you will learn whose answers to rely on....

Be wary of "offers" that circumvent the rules. You're only exposing yourself to greater risk down the road.
Mark *******
just some basic rules to follow, some documents to prepare. its generally the visa applicants on the fringe of compliancewith the most problems. yes inconsistencies among immigration offices exist, but go into the office and get the details first hand, or if you dont want to do that hire an agent. there are many countries with a much more onerous visa process than thailand
Jeffery *******
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Cheers Tony - good advice.
Stephen ********
Yes there are 'wrinkles' and Inconsistencies- in interpretation at different offices - and sometimes with different officers.

But maybe much of what you read is from people trying to game the system. Finding ways to stay beyond 'design' of their visa.

Most people just stay within the rules with no problems.
Brandon ************
I'll agree with you that many questions can be answered with a little research, especially with the relevant embassy or just searching through past posts in the group.

But I can assure you, that you will not sitting down with your local Thai consulate. All visa matters are now handled through the online e-visa system, and foreigners are no longer allowed on the property of Thai embassies or consulates. Everything you need to do, you will be directed to the online system. You would never make it past the front gate.
Chang ******
Chang ******
@Brandon ***********
good answer brandon
Rick *********
@Brandon ***********
hey Brandon I wanted to let you know I submitted my Non-O marriage visa application last week. Then today I received an email from The Consulate asking for an “INVITATION LETTER” from the family or spouse, etc, that I am going to stay with in Thailand. Do you know if there is a standard form letter or the best format to reply to increase the chance of them accepting the letter from my wife? Thanks again for all your help!

Btw I did look online to try and answer this question myself and the reason I’m asking is there are 347 different answers out there. 😎🙏😎 Hoping you know the best shot.
Robert ********
@Rick ********
There is no standard as far as I know. She should just write in her own words that she invites you and that you will stay with her.
Ken *******
@Rick ********
, hey, not to be take another’s thunder but I have done multiple Marriage Non 0 visas, and I just had my Thai wife write a short free hand letter in Thai, where we are living, address etc, it’s helpful to just include an extra copy of her Thai ID ( Thai immigration lives more paperwork), and Thai phone number too.

That was all I did, no real form.

Plus all your photos.

Good luck.
Jorge ****
@Rick ********
I had the same happen to me. Wrote the letter myself in English as if I was my wife stating name, address, ID, that we were married, and that she wanted me to come home. Had Google translate it into Thai. Sent it to my wife. She corrected some minor things, signed it, scanned it, and E-mailed to me. Sounds convoluted, but the Thai consulate gave me the Non-O visa. That was 4 years ago. Good luck. (Don"t forget the marriage cert, her ID, and house book)
Brandon ************
@Rick ********
There's no standard. You just ask your wife to write in a letter in Thai saying you will be joining her in Thailand. Possibly see if she can also scan her ID to include with it
Rick *********
@Brandon ***********
ok that seems to be the consensus to that’s what I’m gonna do. 🙏🙏🙏
Jeffery *******
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Not so sure that would apply to NZ..one will find out I guess..
Brett **********
@Jeffery ******
if you're over 50 and have the cash the process is actually pretty simple, if a little confusing at first
Lennart **********
@Jeffery ******
thank you, grammar is not easy for us who Are a little bit stupid!
Ian *********
@Jeffery ******
@Brandon ***********
is the man - he knows what he is talking about, do listen to him! 🙏
Lennart **********
@Jeffery ******
If you read old topics, you can see that is

Many different answer ,after a while you understand Who knews what they are talking about.

Loads of false information.

But
@Brandon ***********
knews what he talks about!

Good luck.
Kim *********
@Lennart *********
sorry Carlsson but for your information - if you are interested - it is know (present tense) not knews - that word doesn't exist. He knows - they know. It's not a typo since o and e are on the opposite side of the keyboard.
Wayne *********
@Jeffery ******
you will need a bank loan for a visa if NZ passport, NZ known to be most expensive to get a Thai visa in the world
Stuart *********
@Jeffery ******
100% it will apply to NZ. Also you really don’t want to be applying for any type of visa from NZ. They charge up to 5 times the price of any other embassy/consulate worldwide.
Brandon ************
@Jeffery ******
It applies to every Thai embassy. They all went to e-visa as of January 1st. But do beware NZ is a special case. They tripled the price of every visa more than every other Thai embassy in the world last year. It's never advisable to purchase a visa through the Thai embassy in NZ anymore. They charge 300 NZD for a simple tourist visa!
Jeffery *******
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@Brandon ***********
so where do you suggest I undertake the process ?
Brandon ************
@Jeffery ******
There's a lot of options really. You could use an agent along with your own money in Thailand. You could go to a neighboring country in SE Asia and apply through e-visa while you're inside the country. I would just avoid applying through NZ as it's highway robbery.
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