What are the current challenges and updates regarding visa extensions at Tak Immigration in Thailand?

Sep 30, 2020
4 years ago
Doug **********
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Just to let people know, I went to Tak Immigration today (Wednesday, September 30th) with my "under consideration" stamp.

Unfortunately, I only got until October 26th for my official extension of stay stamp.

The clerks in that office don't speak a lot of English, so I couldn't get much information out of them. However, my sense is that they are waiting for official instructions from the central immigration office .

The national authorities may have announced this new policy, but the actual nuts and bolts about implementing it haven't reached the regional offices yet. At least, this new policy is not official in Tak/Mae Sot as of September 30th.

I tried to find out when it might become official, but, again, we ran into the language barrier. Nobody could answer any of my questions.

Hopefully this confusion will be straightened out by the time other people return with their "under consideration" stamps, but I don't know when that might be.

DETAILS:

Canadian passport

Tak Immigration Office (Mae Sot)

- Entered Thailand on a 30-day visa exemption

- Received one 30-day extension

- On amnesty since the extension expired

- Applied for 30-day extension with embassy letter

- Received "under consideration" stamp with instructions to return on September 30th.

- Returned on September 30th and was given an extension of stay stamp until October 26th.

-No information as yet if/when I will be able to return and get a new stamp dated for November 30th.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
A Canadian citizen visited the Tak Immigration Office on September 30th to inquire about their "under consideration" visa status. They received an extension until October 26th but noted the lack of English-speaking staff hindered communication about ongoing immigration policy changes. It appears that revisions to visa policies are still pending official confirmation from the central immigration office, causing confusion among expats in the Mae Sot area. Other commenters shared similar experiences and offered insights on possible solutions for foreigners, particularly those with Thai spouses, amidst the ongoing COVID-19 situation.
Philip **********
How did you get a letter from the Canadian Embassy? They refused me twice. Told me to go home or apply for a long term visa. Marriage, retirement etc.

They also lied to me about Thailand immigration. They told me they had a meeting with immigration and that they were not requesting any letters!
Doug **********
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@Philip *********
I'm not entirely sure why they were willing to make an exception in my case. They initially informed me that they were not issuing these letters to any Canadian citizens, and they advised me to return to Canada or somehow convert to a long-stay visa for Thailand, such as a retirement visa.

But a short time later, I learned that the American embassy had begun issuing such letters, and I wrote to the Canadian embassy a second time to ask if they were going to follow suit and change their policy.

They informed me that their policy had not changed, and they were not issuing these letters. However, something in my email describing my situation must have caught their eye, because they made an exception for me and issued a letter.

I don't know for sure, but I believe the deciding factor was that I had not maintained a residence in Canada for nearly three decades. I've lived almost my entire adult life in other countries. And with no home to return to in Canada, it would be difficult to comply with the self-quarantine measures. I supplied other reasons and arguments, probably no different than those of other people, so I'm not entirely sure which argument swayed them. I was grateful, however, to receive the letter.

What eventually happened in your case? Since you could not get this letter, I assume you had to leave Thailand or apply for a different type of visa?
Philip **********
@Doug *********
I applied and received a non o 90 day visa.
John-Paul ******
Wait... the system is still trying to get sorted out. Not every office in the loop regarding the new measures being arranged.
Doug **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@John-Paul *****
Good advice. I'll wait for a week or so and check for news, and then I'll head back out to the immigration office. Luckily, going to the office here in Mae Sot is not a big deal. And the office is small and personal and not so busy. On my visit yesterday, I was the only person there.
John-Paul ******
@Do**
I live in Maesot and the IM office is easy and these days there are very few of us still here. The staff has always been nice as well and easy to talk to.
Austin *******
Alright, the question has now been answered. I'm shutting it down. Commenting closed.
Doug **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Austin ******
And just like that, we're done. πŸ™‚
Av **********
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Av **********
Dominic ****
For the amount they charge (1900 baht for a few minutes work) why do they not have staff that can speak English? I'll never understand that...
Jimmy ******
Not all foreigners speak English. Remember that the biggest group of tourists are the Chinese
Dominic ****
@Jimmy *****
historically English was the predominant international tourist language in Thailand. And IOs couldn't speak English back then either
Michael *********
@Jimmy *****
in America we go out of our way to accommodate foreign guests
Michael *********
What about foreigners with Thai spouses
Brent *******
@Michael ********
I am waiting to get back to Thailand from Canada to register our marriage as she is still there! There is only one repatriation flight on October 15 and no others planned yet according to the Thai embassy... so hard to get to Thailand and then the quarantine... I think it would be easier for her to come to πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦
Ivan ************
William there's really not a lot you can do legitimately in the long term with borders closed. In the short term, you should be able to get a 60 day "visit Thai family" extension. This is only once per entry, but it has no financial requirements.

Other things you could consider would be an education visa or volunteering. These can be totally legit if you are actually studying or volunteering, while much abused some people do actually use these visas for their intended purpose.

There may also be options with an agent that are less legit.
Ivan ************
You have two options:

(1) if you have 400,000 in the bank for the last two months, you can get a 1 year extension of stay based on marriage.

(2) if you don't, put it in now, and then get a 60 day "visit Thai family" extension. At the end of that, the money will have seasoned long enough for you to get a 1 year extension.
Michael *********
@Ivan ***********
I'm still working in Afghanistan I'm waiting to retire. I don't have bank account or health insurance yet always visited wife when off. Never expected this wuflu mess
Ivan ************
@Mic****
this post is about extensions. If you are outside Thailand, you can apply for repatriation at your nearest embassy on the basis of having a Thai spouse- that is one of the categories that has been allowed back since early on.

You would need $US100k Covid cover, but that is the same for everyone.
Michael *********
@Ivan ***********
thanks I guess this is mainly for tourists with no Thai connections
Bobby ********
@Michael ********
. What
@Ivan ***********
has explained is for foreigners with a Thai spouse, not for tourists. As you have a Thai spouse you can apply for a COE at your closest embassy. You would need to do the 14 day quarantine in addition to the insurance. However, you will get back in.
Bizkit ******
Patience and wait for the batch 1 extension stamp...i believe the memo still in the progress. Wait another week and try make a call to 1178 or ur local bureau and enquiry!
Stuart *********
Although the powers that be have approved to extended amnesty it has not been signed off by the PM nor published in the Royal Gazette so it’s not law yet. It’s expected to appear in the next couple of days.
Doug **********
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@Stuart ********
From the last visa amnesties, I became familiar with this whole process of the prime minister having to sign things and then have the policy or law published in the Royal Gazette before they become official. But, for some reason, I completely forgot about all that. The way all the articles online read, it sounded like this new policy was just there and ready to go. It all sounded finalized. So it took me by surprise when the Tak immigration office didn't seem to know anything about it.

I did wonder originally if I should delay returning for my official extension of stay stamp until the dust settled. I wanted to wait until Friday at least. But my under consideration stamp said I needed to return on September 30th, and people advised me that it was wiser to follow those instructions than to delay. So I went in.

I'm not sure how I can figure out when it will be possible to go back and have my October 26th stamp changed to a November 30th stamp, but I guess news will start to trickle out about that.
Charles ****************
@Stuart ********
It has since become official.
Stuart *********
@Charles ***************
yes so I have seen.
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Greg ********
Someone posted a very similar experience to yours. Probably as you say. Information not communicated out from centre yet.
Doug **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Greg *******
I should have anticipated that, but I honestly didn't. All the articles online and even the commentary from people like Richard Barrow made it sound like a done deal. All the articles even said that if you already had your 30-day extension of stay, you should just go in and get the date changed to November 30th. So I went into the Tak office with the expectation that they would be up to speed with everything I had read online.

I totally forgot that that isn't how it works here. The immigration authorities had made the announcement about the new policy, but I guess it still had to be signed by the prime minister and then published in the Royal Gazette (which I believe just happened), and THEN the official documents and directives have to be communicated out to the immigration offices.

So it was obviously going to take some time and they just weren't ready when I visited the Tak office. But I had no choice. My "under consideration" stamp required me to return on September 30th, so I did.

I'm seeing posts now from people that have flown out of Thailand in the last few days, and they were surprised to be fined for overstaying. They assumed they would be covered by the new visa amnesty until October 31st. But I guess that wasn't official either, and as far as the airport immigration officials were concerned, each day after September 26th was an overstay.

I guess I'll just keep my ear to the ground and wait until I hear news that the Tak office is changing the extension of stay stamps from October 26th to November 30th and I'll return to get that done. Fingers crossed. πŸ™‚
Greg ********
@Doug *********
Good luck. Hope you get it sorted. It is in Royal Gazette now
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