What Are the Latest Updates on Visa Extensions and Immigration Procedures in Chiang Mai?

Apr 2, 2020
5 years ago
Mike ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hello World.

A small (long) update in regard to some immigration issues I feel like need to be reiterated, explained, and expounded upon. Also, I've attached the handy-dandy CM Immigration examples of the TM-7 (Extension form), TM-8 (Re-entry Permit), and TM-47 (90-Day Report) from the board outside the door. Also, if you need any documents available to print at home, see this link (All these are available at the office, though):

[members only]

Caveat: I AM NOT AN IMMIGRATION OFFICER. I am a volunteer with access to immigration officials and a decent understanding of current processes and policies at CHIANG MAI IMMIGRATION.

Rumor mill:

1) CM Immigration has no current plan to close

2) Automatic 30-day extensions FOR TOURISTS is in deliberation by Parliament. This will have NO EFFECT on the long-stay visa holders as of now. ([members only]).

3) Only Non-OA Retiree visa holders are required to have health insurance when they extend their visa. Non-O retirement extensions DO NOT require current health insurance coverage (IN CHIANG MAI).

4) YES, you MUST have two copies of EVERYTHING when you apply for the COVID-19 extension (even the embassy letter).

Local CM Immigration office Info:

First, the new queue system. Due to social distancing attempts, they don't want people crowding. To stop that, people are screened at the entrance on the facility and asked what they need. SOMETIMES, a volunteer will try and catch you before you get to the temperature section. We aren't being nosy. We are trying to help direct traffic. I can tell you what/where you need to go with a cursory glance at the paperwork as opposed to the explanation. Sometimes we need it. If so, I'll ask for elaboration. The officers won't. You'll be given 4 options (I wrote a long post about that. Maybe someone will link to it....). THAT queue number is the number IN LINE to get to the desk, NOT the visa appointment. We volunteers are keeping track of numbers and usher you from the seating areas to the desk for document review. Additionally, we provide a free-of-charge document review to advise on any missing pages, signatures, ink colors, or bad copies that the officer will flag and reject your application. This is completely optional. However, and I cannot stress this enough...if there is a queue for doc review and you are missing anything and need to come back, YOU MUST RE-QUEUE. Sorry. Now, if there is no line, no problem. After you get your docs reviewed BY THE DESK OFFICER, they will give you your REAL queue number to get your immigration issue looked at. At that point, the only thing I can do for you is show you the bathroom and get you some water if you need.

Ok, so next thing is the new entry procedure. I wrote a long post about this, so I won't go into huge detail. But, I will say this...if you tell the officer taking your temperature ANYTHING with the words "90 days....", you will be given a 90-day report (TM-47) queue number. I mentioned the other day about the difference b/w 90-day report and 90-day extension. As of now, you cannot get a 90-day extension of your tourist visa here. 90-day extensions are on Non-O visas of varying flavors. Use your terminology wisely. I'll write up specific procedures again, as needed.

A few outliers, though, based on some unique cases I've seen.

1) Renewing your Non-O visa in-country....BRING EVERYTHING IN SUPPORT OF YOUR VISA!!! Retirees, bring financial. Marriage/Guardians, bring marriage licenses / birth certificates...there is no "I just need a 30 day stamp." They want to see everything. This includes Non-B visas as well (Which is very, very painful).

2) This border situation is upsetting the apple cart on many retirees/family visas that no longer meet the financial requirement to maintain their visa. I have NOT YET HEARD OF OR SEEN the Consulate letter work to extend a Non-O any flavor visa. If you need to extend, see #1, OR.....cancel the visa, revery to a tourist visa, and use the COVID-19 extension policy to extend that tourist visa ad infinitum until further policy comes into play.

3) Family/Marriage visa holders who no longer meet the requirement can apply to extend their tourist visa (after cancelling Non-O) for 90 days at a time by providing all family-related documentation MINUS FINANCIAL INFO when they extend.

4) Dual citizens can extend their visa for one year by showing Thai ID card, birth certificate, parent info, etc.

5) If you applied for an extension elsewhere (Not in CM) and your extension is under consideration, CM Immigration CAN NOT extend you! You MUST return to the office you extended at to receive final determination (Saw this one today).

6) You can switch tourist visa to Non-O retirement while in country as long as you have 21 days on your visa, meet all the requirements, and have $$$ in the bank for at least 3 weeks prior to applying (or whatever time the officer wants.)

7) DO NOT CANCEL YOUR VISA until you speak to an immigration officer or one of the volunteers by the main building!!! Many people are being told to cancel and apply for the COVID-19 extension policy when they can extend their non-O! Please find me or another volunteer before you do.

My plan is to work mornings daily and afternoons as needed. If you send me a PM, I'll do my best t get the answer for you.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
This post provides detailed updates on immigration and visa extension procedures in Chiang Mai, Thailand. Key points include the current status of 30-day extensions for tourists being deliberated, health insurance requirements for Non-OA visa holders, documentation needed for various types of visa applications, and specific tips for navigating the local immigration office during COVID-19. The post also addresses common issues faced by expats and highlights the importance of terminology when communicating with immigration officials.
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Benjamin ******
Since the thread is getting sideways about airline prices, I'm closing comments.
Gru *****
Is that Robert Downey Jr.s pic? 😆
Aminul *******
No that's Tony Stark. 😂
Milan ********
Again great info, but you haven't really mentioned most common extensions - 2nd (covid) extensions (for people who already did 1st extension on their visa exempt or tourist visa).

Especially how about the people WITHOUT consulate letter? In your previous post from 26th March you said covid extensions are given to people with or without letter - is it still valid info? You replied to my comment it has changed - but now you don't mention it in your post at all, so I am.a bit confused. Thanks for clarifying and great work :)
Milan ********
Thank you, my visa expires 7th April and I have no place to stay in Germany nor interest to go there (situation there is much worse and I'm not a citizen). Thanks for your effort
James ********
@Milan *******
may I ask why you would beef a second COVID extension? Flights out of Thailand are still available.
Ian ****************
You are a ray of sunshine in these dark times, thanks.
Murray ********
Thank you
Tod *********
AFAIK, IF you are on a year-long, multi-entry Non-Immigrant visa OF ANY KIND (where you bounce out and back in to get another 90 days) but you can't do it now, you CAN get the "unable to travel due to covid-19 extension and as long as the visa is still valid once the borders open back up you can use it like always.

Thai immigrations cannot cancel a VISA issued by a thai consulate from another country. All you're doing is getting that "embassy request" extension until you can travel again. It's no different than the 60 day extension that people get to visit thai family on 90 day entries from year-multi-Non-O's based on marriage, after that 60 days is up they bounce again to get a new 90 day stamp
Bobby ****
@Tod ********
and if you had that visa (non o ME thai spouse), the actual visa is now expired and you are on a 60 day thai family extension? What happens in June when my 60 day thai family extension is up and traveling is still restricted? I have a WP for teaching in language school as well. I planned to get a new visa last month but my flights got cancelled the day before I was to travel. Can I get an extension based on teaching on top of this? I do not have the finances to do the marriage extension. I am well aware June is two months away but this needs to be a thought in my head.
Romain ******
@Tod ********
hi sir. I’m exactly in this situation with a one year non-O marriage. I’m supposed to do my 90 days border run (visa run) the 23rd of April.

Could you give me the list of the documents I need to provide? I understand I need the embassy letter, but what else? Thanks a lot
Gregor **********
thank you for clarifying this. Yes, you cannot cancel any Non-Imm inside the country. However this is what Mike Gaudet recommends, to "cancel your Non-O"
Gregor **********
Mike Gaudet . .. very good info, however you haven't mentioned the possibility for those on marriage visa to apply for the 60-days based on visiting family in number 3) . . . instead, only recommend converting the marriage Non-O to a tourist visa . . . .??
Gregor **********
. .and to me, one thing remains unclear: How do you "cancel your Non-O visa" while you are still inside the country? By going into overstay? By applying for a conversion? I thought conversions can only be done from tourist or exempt visa towards a Non-O and not vice versa ?
Gregor **********
for a 60-days extension of stay based on visiting family, yes you have to prove that you are married and bring your wife along. No financial proofs needed, though
Mike ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Gregor *********
I addressed that in an earlier post. If you renew marriage visa, you’ll need all supporting docs.
Iman ********
Terminology is very important in addition to a healthy dose of patience 🧡🧡🧡

Even after all your coaching I still got the wrong ticket after temp screening because I said 90 day check in when I meant 90 day extension 🤣

This is why I went after 2pm to avoid the crowd and limit my wait time in case of any confusion and it paid off 🧡🧡🧡

This was the most efficient trip to immigration ever and I truly appreciate everyone we encountered 🧡🧡🧡
Luboš ***********
PM sent :)
Tod *********
keep the comments ON the group OR get ready to leave the group :/
Rob *********
Thanks. What ink color? Blue?
Tod *********
it's been blue ink for many many years. Let's try not to make it any harder than it is
Kurt *********
Sorry for not knowing, what does NON-O mean?

I’m near the end of my 90 day tourist visa here on the island of Koh Pha-ngan on April 20th and looking to get an extension and not have to travel anywhere.

Any advice? What documents will I need now? Will this potentially change in the future? Thank you 🙏🏻
Robert *******
Sorry but you are in a different part of Thailand, please make a new topic with your question as this post is about Chang Mai.
Sean ********
You're a good man, Mike. The world would be a better place with more people like you. CM Immigration is fortunate to have you volunteering there. Likewise the foreigners in CM are thankful for your assistance.
Phil ******
That's the best explanation I have seen. A great help. Thankyou.
Paul *******
Mike great post thanks, so I can come and get my re entry permit to my Non Imm OA visa done their ?

Thanks v much
Rob *********
Thanks ever so much for all your efforts at the present time - it is greatly appreciated 👍👍👍
Brandon *****
Great information. Thanks...
Hoan ********
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