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What are the best options for obtaining a visa in Thailand after a short overstay?
Thai Visa RegulationsOverstay IssuesDigital Nomad VisaVisa Application ProcessWork PermitVisa RunsCOmpany OwnershipSelf-Employment in ThailandExpat Advice
May 1, 2025
a year ago
Anonymous *************
ORIGINAL POSTERTrying to find out whats the best way forward:
I've been in thailand for 5 months (1 visa run with short overstay). Tried to open a company and get a wp but got scammed (hence the overstay).
im considering going for a few months to bali, applying there and coming back on DTV.
i have the money in the bank, but my income is very unstable as i do some group coaching twice a year and thats where most of my income comes from
i have my own company, could pay myself a salary
any advice or things i should read on? would be greatly appreciated. im a south american national but also have european passport if it makes any difference.
I've been in thailand for 5 months (1 visa run with short overstay). Tried to open a company and get a wp but got scammed (hence the overstay).
im considering going for a few months to bali, applying there and coming back on DTV.
i have the money in the bank, but my income is very unstable as i do some group coaching twice a year and thats where most of my income comes from
i have my own company, could pay myself a salary
any advice or things i should read on? would be greatly appreciated. im a south american national but also have european passport if it makes any difference.
TLDR : Answer Summary
The individual is exploring their visa options after a recent overstay in Thailand, caused by a scam while attempting to establish a company. They are considering traveling to Bali to apply for a Digital Nomad Visa (DTV). There are mixed opinions on the implications of their overstay, but some suggest that having financial means and a company to back their application may mitigate potential issues. Additionally, there are comments about alternative routes involving courses such as Muay Thai, but consensus leans towards applying for the DTV directly considering their self-employment status.
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Artur **********
You have money is account and even twice a year You have an income to support Yourself thru the year. You have abroad company where You can provide Your own letters proving You can work remotely. You have everything You need to apply for remote work DTV . I had overstay stamps in my passport and get DTV without problem as even they didn’t check it. Try to input Thai departure and Bali arrival stamp on the different passport page than Your overstay stamps and good luck.
Anonymous ******************
Apply as digital nomad and use your company details it's easy, don't try winging it you will fail
Travis ********
Use a soft power method
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@Travis *******
the problems is that he overstay.. And probably has a red flag on his passport.Travis ********
Anonymous participant 117 right.. so using his sketchy business on top of the overstay would be more likely to be rejected compared to a soft power activity where he already paid someone in Thailand. Though maybe he still could get rejected on soft power and lose the class tuition also
Anonymous *************
ORIGINAL POSTERAnonymous participant 117 i do have double citizenship and could use another passport but wonder if they figure that out
Stéfan ********
Anonymous participant your overstay isn’t tied to your passport… it’s an offense. Just like you can’t get out of a trafic infraction because you have a new driver’s license or lost it. An overstay is tied to the person. That said, taking classes is a very small requirement to have access to a long stay visa. The only other options are the elite visa (but your overstay could affect your chances), a retirement visa if your overstay 50, or getting married.
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@Stéfan *******
impossible to get Elite Visa (Thailand Privilege) with overstay. They will deny you immediately, it's in their terms and conditions. And you will loose so much money because have to pay part of the visa when you apply.Stéfan ********
Anonymous participant 117 I've applied and no money was required. Only when approved that you make the transfer.
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@Stéfan *******
it's a new rule since late 2024 I thinkAnonymous ******************
Anonymous participant better to be honest in this case. They will not like someone trying to deceive them.
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Travis *******
the thing is I have no interest in actually participating in any classesTravis ********
Soft power is more likely to be approved than using your sketchy business
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Anonymous ******************
Recent overstay can be a problem for obtain the visa. So keep in mind that you have possibilities to have a denied visa and to loose the fee.
Yen ***
Hard to apply for DTV if you have a recent history of overstay
Muay *************
Muay thai course soft power combined with a few good bank statements should succeed in Indonesia
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Muay ************
I don't intend to actually do any Muay Thai tho. How does it work for longer term stay? Do they test you?Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant you can't work with soft power so ignore that, need digital nomad DTV
Muay *************
Anonymous participant we sell a course in good faith and your classes go in the book as available
But we are not required to monitor or report on attendance to anyone
But we are not required to monitor or report on attendance to anyone
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@Muay ************
why tell people to sign up for the wrong reason, he has company he can use online working DTVMuay *************
Anonymous participant 993 I'm not telling him to do anything...just relaying our customers experience in Jakarta. He has options to consider.
Mel *********
@Muay ************
so can I sign up and just not go? I’m too old and too fat to be doing Muay Thai lol 🤣 what is course price?Reply to
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Anonymous participant Yes they are building boxing rings at immigration where you fight a Thai professional fighter
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ORIGINAL POSTERAnonymous participant 883 if you lose you get deported? Makes sense (and a genius idea for reality tv..fight for your visa haha)
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