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Should I apply for a retirement visa in Australia before moving to Thailand or apply once I arrive?

Garry ********
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Hello

I am currently in Australia I can officially retire in November do I apply for retirement visa in Australia or come to Thailand and apply also I am thinking of purchasing a condo should I waite and get visa first really would appreciate your advise

Garry
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Garry, currently in Australia, is seeking advice on whether to apply for a Thai retirement visa before relocating or after arriving in Thailand. He is also considering purchasing a condo. Suggestions from the community recommend applying for the Non-Immigrant Type O-A (Long Stay) visa at the Thai Consulate in Sydney or Canberra before making the move. It's advised to wait on the condo purchase until the visa is secured, as it could simplify the purchasing process.
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Garry *********
Garry *********
Re condo purchase...Wait...wait...wait and wait some more
James ********
James ********
Very very very very good advice. Rent... No need to buy. Renter's paradise.
Garry *********
Garry *********
I applied to the Thai Sydney Consulate for my retirement visa before I moved to Thailand.
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Shayne **********
Shayne **********
Rent for a year and invest and you will make more money with less hassle and "lost" money.

There are so many options for AUD$600 per month and test a few out.
Tod *********
Tod *********
What he said
Moonjanda ********
Moonjanda ********
Should wait until you get visa
Tod *********
Tod *********
Sorry about posting all that stuff, I just didn't want the O/P to get off on the wrong foot visa wise.

If you can get the Non-O-A visa that's the one for you (y)

Good Luck
Tod *********
Tod *********
Okay, let's all take a minute and understand how the year-long, multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type O-A (Long Stay) visa works.

It is valid for a year from the date it's issued. It is unlimited entry meaning you can come and go all you want for the validity of the visa and each time you enter you will be stamped in for a completely new calendar year.

This is what that visa looks like
Tod *********
Tod *********
Using this visa as an example

It was issued on May 13 2013 and it has an "Enter before" date of May 12 2014 <- one year from the date it's issued.

The holder can exit/enter the country all they want for the validity of the visa and as long as it's on or before the 12 of May 2014 they will be stamped in for a completely new calendar year
Tod *********
Tod *********
If your profile is to be believed and you're in Melbourne you can't use the thai consulate there for the visa I mentioned.

You'd need to use the one in Canberra or Sydney
Tod *********
Tod *********
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Tod *********
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Tod *********
Tod *********
The "retirement visa" is really a visa based on being over 50 years old and has nothing to do with whether you're retired or not.

Be that as it may, I'd say get a year-long, multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type O-A (Long Stay) visa from a thai consulate in Australia BEFORE you wing your way here.

The visa does require a police background check and a medical certificate but you can use the money in your bank there to meet the financial requirements.

That visa lets you come and go all you want for a year and every time you enter the country you'll get stamped in for a whole new year.
Garry ********
Garry ********
OP
Thanks Tod
Tod *********
Tod *********
@Garry *******
, you won't need to do anything on that visa for almost 2 years..
Garry ********
Garry ********
OP
Thank you Tod

And can i renew that in Soi 5 Jomtien
Tod *********
Tod *********
You want the Non-Immigrant Type O-A Long Stay (retirement) visa
Tod *********
Tod *********
@Ga***
You use the links to the Thai consulate in either Sydney or Canberra I posted further down and follow their requirements to get the visa BEFORE you wing your way here
Garry ********
Garry ********
OP
So fo i apply for visa here in Australia or when i get to Thailand
Tony ********
Tony ********
@Tod ********
it was more than the officers mood.it was an interpretation of something that is not defined in the legislation and Joe accused me of spreading false information and threatened to kick me out of the room for spreading false news! lol.
Tod *********
Tod *********
@To**
, when it comes to thai visas, extensions and immigration officers no one is perfect. At best it works like it's written and at worst it's a totally grey area (dark grey at that). You just never know what an immigration officer's mood is going to be when you get in front of them..
Tony ********
Tony ********
@Tod ********
well he aint perfect. I had an event happen to me at the chong saenam crossing and he was adamant that it was impossible that it happened and when I insisted he threatened to turf me!
Tod *********
Tod *********
what you do on that visa
@Ja***
is. Just prior to the "enter before" date on the visa you exit/re-enter the country. This gets you stamped in for a completely NEW calendar year (giving you two years in country on that visa.

Then when that year runs down you either go back to your country and get another O-A visa OR you go to the immigration office and start getting yearly extensions of stays (like you have now)..
James ********
James ********
@Stan *********
comparison of opinion. Especially from Ubon Joe
Tod *********
Tod *********
@Stan *********
He was mentioning that Ubon Joe (one of the moderators on there) is very knowledgeable. He is super knowledgeable about visas an extensions.
James ********
James ********
@Tod ********
yes Tod. And I assumed incorrectly I gather that the OP was retiring to Thailand fm AU. With the O-A is it renewable each year? Does one have to be back in AU to get it renewed each year?
Stan **********
Stan **********
James Miller , why would the OP need to pose his question on TV when he has already been given the definitive answer .
Tod *********
Tod *********
@James *******
I would bet dollars to durian you have a stamp like this in your passport. You get it from the immigration office every year. It is NOT a visa, it is a yearly extension of stay and costs 1900baht, AND you also buy a multi-re-entry permit every time you get an extension and it costs you 3800 baht.

I can tell you have an extension and NOT a vsia because when you exit the country you are stamped in for the same date when you return.

Please feel free to help offer advice on the group, and know I meant no disrespect, it's just really really hard to fool me about visas or extensions of stays to thailand.

An extension and a re-entry permit looks like this.
Tony ********
Tony ********
@Tod ********
amen to that! and a LOT of insults as well
James ********
James ********
Whatever.... I solely tried to be of assist with sharing my personal experiences with the retirement visa... Extension of Stay. I'll pass on further comment. Good luck to him. Enjoy Thailand!
Tod *********
Tod *********
@James *******
Ubon Joe is a smart guy but that forum is pretty sucky and you have to wade thru a LOT of b/s to get good answers
Tony ********
Tony ********
@James *******
tod knows as much or more than those guys
Tod *********
Tod *********
@James *******
unfortunately you are confusing a VISA that you get from a thai consulate outside the country with an extension of stay you get from the immigration office inside the country
James ********
James ********
Not true... The visa is issued for one year! If you have a multi-entry permit each time you reenter the date of expiration will be the same as the expiration date for the visa. I do this many times... Even this week.
Tod *********
Tod *********
@James *******
That visa is valid for a year, It can ONLY be gotten from a thai consulate in a country your passport comes from or a country you hold legal residence in.

It is sold as a year-long multi-entry visa meaning you don't need a re-entry permit. As long as you enter the country before the visa itself expires you will be stamped in for another year
Garry ********
Garry ********
OP
Unfortunately i am over 50 lol
Tod *********
Tod *********
David Bonas Hang about, Let's not get ahead of ourselves :O

The visa is valid for a year from the date it's issued and is multiple entry meaning you can come and go as many times as you want during that validity and you will get stamped in for a new year every time you enter as long as it's prior to the "enter before" date on the visa
Tony ********
Tony ********
David Bonas no, it has an expiry date
James ********
James ********
@Tod ********
if he comes and goes out of Thailand he DOES NEED a multi-entry permit. 3,800 Thai baht annually for the permit.
Philip *********
Philip *********
Tod There are so many levels of police in US I wonder who I would have issues police report . Sheriff , city , state FBI takes for ever ?
Tony ********
Tony ********
@Tod ********
even if u go out?
Tod *********
Tod *********
@Tony *******
he wouldn't need a re-entry permit on that visa for a year :/
Tony ********
Tony ********
remind him of re-entry permits!!

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