Is it safe to use a high-wattage extension lead for multiple appliances in a kitchen in Thailand?

Jul 23, 2024
4 months ago
Tony *********
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One for the electricians or bright sparks excuse the pun in Thailand or elsewhere.

I am using an extension lead in a kitchen due to poor building design in a relatively new building. I am running it from one double socket obviously utilising one of those 2 sockets. Recently the extension lead keeps tripping so I am thinking of buying a new one with a larger capacity in terms of amps and watts. At the moment we are plugging into the extension lead various high power appliances one kettle, one microwave, one air fryer and one electric wok. We don't use them all at once but any 2 or more combined and it's tripping.

Although a higher capacity extension lead may work I'm worried about the potential draw from the wall socket, basically it frying and burning out and the potential of an electric fire starting at the wall socket. I am also concerned that the high draw on the extension lead even if it's capacity states it can handle the wattage may have the same effect with the extension lead catching fire.

So any advice much appreciated regarding whether the wall socket is able to handle multiple high power appliances all at once and also possibly using a higher wattage extension lead?

Worse case is getting an electrician in to install another socket (should have been done when it was built!) but obviously I would rather avoid this if possible.

Many thanks

Tony
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Tony is concerned about using a high-wattage extension lead in his kitchen due to poor electrical design in a newer building. His extension lead trips when using multiple power appliances like a kettle and microwave. Despite considering a higher capacity extension lead, he fears this may lead to risks such as electrical fires from the wall socket or extension lead. The community advises him that using multiple high-power appliances on a single socket is unsafe, and suggests hiring an electrician to install additional sockets, as this is a safer long-term solution.
Diane **********
Kettle is often the problem, my stove trips when I have the kettle plugged in to the same point. Try & see...
Tony **********
Are they 220v appliances? Heating devices (high amperage) that are designed for 110v but running on 220v will draw more current than you expect. Verify that the plug is the round 220v plug. Do not buy and use an extension cord that is rated higher wattage than the socket.
Tony *********
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@Tony *********
- yes they are all Thai purchased devices just too many high powered off the one socket on an extension.

Looking back I think I must have been crazy but at least I have realised now my stupidity before it was too late. We only have one double socket that side hence my own silly decision making. God knows how the original builder got away with 2 double sockets in a kitchen? πŸ™„πŸ™πŸΌ
Jens *********
Just get an electrician to set up a new socket. Cost 3000 to 5000
Ron **********
Do I have any options to extend my non immi O with 30 days in Thailand, without doing the retirement or marriage ones ?
James *********
@Ron *********
best advice to start your own new post for answers to your unrelated questions
Ron **********
@James ********
new to this so sorry to intrude
Kev **********
Please check it is all earthed. Plenty of other safety advice in these posts.

But you need to get a Qualified good electrician.
Tony *********
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@Kev *********
- thank you. Yes going to go see Homepro as I don't know what I will get otherwise πŸ‘πŸΌ
Frank-Steven ***********
If you go the extra socket route, I would just advice to make sure that socket gets a separate wiring to the fuse box. Just having an extra socket installed serially connected to another socket won't solve the problem.
Tony *********
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@Frank-Steven **********
- thank you yes this makes perfect sense I think I will work out how many extra sockets I need probably just need 2 more πŸ™πŸΌπŸ‘πŸΌ
James *********
I have the same issue with a lack of electrical outlets in a new home (Where I come from there's a code that for every 8 feet of wall there needs to be an outlet). I just "bit the bullet" and hired an electrician to install more, as it's horrifically unsafe to use extension cords for some applications.
Tony *********
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@James ********
- yes I will definitely also bite the bullet better than frying to death.

As I said to Declan above there are just 2 double sockets πŸ™„
Declan **********
Better and much safer in both the long-term and short-term to just have a spark put in some new sockets.
Tony *********
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@Declan *********
- thank you Declan yes I have come to this conclusion. I checked again earlier and there is just 2 double sockets and one of those is the other side of the kitchen for fridge freezer leaving you just one double socket...madness πŸ™„
Steven *********
Make sure if it's a reel that you reel it all out to prevent overheating and the cable to melt.

Edit just read the full post and you would be better off paying the spark and getting a new socket added .. running high wattage equipment from an extension lead is definitely not recommended and make sure the lead is suitably sized to carry the load you are using ...and 100% reel out the extension lead..
Tony *********
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@Steven ********
- thank you Steven based on other replies it looks like we need to get an electrician in but thank you for your help and advice πŸ‘πŸΌπŸ™πŸΌ
Steven *********
@Tony ********
no problem mate, I understand your dilemma but it's seriously not worth it..

I've seen reels melt and go bang when not fully extended and a big current drawn through it.

All the best πŸ‘πŸ»
Tony *********
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@Steven ********
- yeah for sure definitely a job for a decent electrician. May go to Homepro as if I try to find one I'll be worried about who might show up 555 πŸ˜³πŸ™„πŸ˜‚
Frank-Steven ***********
I have personally seen wall sockets burn up in flames several times when used to draw too much power out of them by means of extension cords. Particularly at Shabu Restaurants, even. If you must use a single socket, then better don't use several higher power appliances concurrently. Sure, a higher quality extension will prevent from that one going up in flames, but still the socket could.
Tony *********
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@Frank-Steven **********
- thank you so much you have pretty much confirmed what I thought that we need to get an electrician in and another socket installed. Been using it this way for a while but it's only recently started tripping so probably been lucky so far. Thanks again πŸ™πŸΌπŸ‘πŸΌ
Frank-Steven ***********
@Tony ********
I am not an electrical engineer. Can just share my observations. I find it a bit concerning. In Germany, if I were to try to draw too much power out of a socket, the "FI" fuse in the fuse box would just cut the electricity. As an extra layer of security, we even install separate sockets with extra fuses in the fuse box for high power appliances. In Thailand, I have seen fireworks coming out of the socket instead on more than one occasion. Getting a high quality extension cord is one thing you can influence - I would never buy one of those from the 20 baht shops or something (if only to protect my devices). But what you cannot simply control is what wires are used in the walls and if everything is installed properly on that end. So yes, if you want to be on the save side, maybe add another socket with a new connection to the fuse box. Sorry for the laymen terms. πŸ˜ƒ
Tony *********
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@Frank-Steven **********
- thanks again. Yes I have pretty much decided to play safe and get an electrician in...it's just not worth it over a few baht to get it done properly.

The UK is also very strict these days on everything electrical I think a lot of fires are still caused by electrical appliances and definitely extention leads are not recommended especially for high power appliances.
Frank-Steven ***********
@Tony ********
Agreed. Just remember that the wires inside of your walls are also kind of extension leads. So, make sure they install you a new / separate wire all the way from the source (the main fuse box) to be on the save side for high power electrical appliances.
Tony *********
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@Frank-Steven **********
- thanks again. We have recently used Homepro a lot and I have been very impressed with the electricians they have sent around. They have always run new cables back to the fuse box and put them into sheaths to protect from rodents. When we had a new air conditioner installed they also upgraded the fuse. πŸ‘πŸΌ
Chris ************
You can only use as much as the cable cross-section, the cable length, the fuse and your electricity meter allow.
Tony *********
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@Chris ***********
- thank you a little technical for me but it sounds like I probably need to get another double socket installed. I wouldn't even know how to make such a calculation πŸ€”πŸ˜³
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