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Can you be denied a tourist visa or entry to Thailand while owning a motorbike?

Mitch *********
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Here’s an interesting scenario which i’ve never seen discussed….

I own a thai-registered motorbike (with all ownership documents in my name) which I purchased on a tourist visa last year.

For reference, my first ever entry to Thailand was 16 months ago. Since then i’ve stayed for 10months using two 60-day tourist visas (+ extension) and two 30-day visa-exempt entries by air (+ extension).

I’m not working and simply traveling throughout SE Asia with most of it in Thailand.

My next exit will be riding the motorbike to Cambodia or Malaysia and staying between 2 - 6 months. I also just returned from a 3-month Laos trip with the motorbike and re-entered Thailand with a tourist visa.

Is it possible to be “stuck” outside Thailand while owning a Thai motorbike? I.e realistically can i be denied a tourist visa (when applying in neighboring countries Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia) if i meet all the requirements?

Technically I do have to return the motorbike to Thailand so not sure how that would work.

As a backup option, are visa-exempt land border entries guaranteed up to 2x per calendar year (i.e almost like a no questions asked policy)?
Answer summary
The discussion revolves around the complexities of holding a Thai-registered motorbike while frequently traveling in and out of Thailand on tourist visas. It highlights concerns about potential entry denial at Thai borders, especially if someone has spent significant time in Thailand on tourist visas. The community points out that visa approvals are not guaranteed, and past entry history may affect future visa applications and border crossings. The consensus suggests that owning a motorbike does not influence visa chances, and caution is advised when attempting cross-border travel.
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Bill ********
Bill ********
Why are you making life so complicated/difficult? Buy a motorbike for each country and border hope from motorbike to motorbike when you cross borders.
Bart **************
Bart **************
The two land border entries are a maximum, and certainly not guaranteed. Your travel history is weighed just like with any other method. Owning a motorbike also isn't going to guarantee you anything. That would be easy enough right, rent something, a motorbike, or a condo, and just tell the immigrations that despite clearly long term staying on tourism-purposed allowances you still need to be admitted. That would be too easy.

You said you want to spend 1-5 months in other countries now first. Now, that does matter. One month away and I'll bet a bottle of wine that your next entry fails. But make it 5, and I would happily bet the opposite.
Graham ******
Graham ******
Real tourists don't own motorbikes in Thailand so good luck with that arguement
Bart **************
Bart **************
@Graham *****
it's possible though. It's just that most don't. But my argument would be: real tourists do not stay 10 months out of 16 in Thailand.
Graham ******
Graham ******
Michael **********
Michael **********
it's highly possible that next time you try to get into thailand, you'll be pulled apart and questioned. It's also possible they'll deny entry the country.
Bob **********
Bob **********
Nothing is guaranteed it’s up to the IO officer and most consulates will not do back to back TV if you want to stay in Thailand get a proper visa and no country cares if your motorbike needs to get back to Thailand
Terary **********
Terary **********
I wouldn't know anything about the motorcycle. However, I have applied for on gotten a Thai tourist eVisa from my home country (US) while in Thailand. Of course I had to leave and come back to activate it. When I applied they requested I show proof of my arrival. They were specific about flight details. It turns out the Thai Embassy in the US is kinda flexible about where you are when you apply.
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@Mitch ********
I would ask your questions in another group. And there is one, that s called something like "Foreign motorcycle riders in South East Asia" (sorry I can't remember the correct name) . . . . . and there of course is the Webseite "gt-rider dot com !!! A big bulk of info! Wish ya well, ride safe sober always!
Daniel *****
Daniel *****
Not sure what makes you think that the bike has to go back to Thailand?
Steve *******
Steve *******
If you do get refused entry the bike isn't going to help you. It'll just be impounded.
Casey ******
Casey ******
@Steve ******
who would impound it? Thai immigration impound the bike parked on the non-thai side of the border or local authorities impounding a bike of a tourist traveling through their country?

Getting denied at the border doesn’t make your current tourist visa/exemption invalid nor does it give Thai immigration authority outside of Thailand.

So who is doing this impounding?
Steve *******
Steve *******
@Casey *****
You'll be in no mans land. If you get refused entry then Thai Immigration may impound your bike or send you back to Cambodia with your bike. The bike won't be a reason for Immigration to let you in the Country.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
There's no such thing as a guaranteed entry at any border, or any method.

If you just got a tourist visa, I'm not sure if you'll be successful getting another one as most of the Thai embassies in the region are now limiting you to one tourist visa in a rolling 365 days.

You qualify for 2 visa exempt entries via land border per year, so you can try entering that way if you're not able to get a tourist visa. But it's certainly not guaranteed. Definitely avoid the Poipet border if you decide to go to Cambodia as they love to deny entry to people, especially visa exempt.
Mitch *********
Mitch *********
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@Brandon ***********
thanks for the response. Interesting about the rolling 365 days for the tourist visa. I received a tourist visa in Cambodia last September (used same month), and one from Laos in January (used in March). No questions asked in Laos.

But it seems I might have issues getting a 3rd tourist visa if it’s before September.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Mitch ********
Most of these new policies have gone into effect within the last few months, so there's not a lot of reports about how they actually work.
Kev **********
Kev **********

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