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Can my father return to Thailand and secure a new retirement visa despite financial limitations and health insurance issues?
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Feb 4, 2026
3 months ago
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERLong post, but please help a stressed but caring daughter out 🙏🏼
My dad (73) has been living in Thailand on various visas and using agents for about 6 years, so he's not new to it all.
He let his retirement visa go well over a year ago (maybe more) and has been on 90 day runs in and out, plus 6 months in the UK last year.
When he went back to Thailand at Christmas he had a warning (I think) about too many trips in and out. He's since left for a bit and travelling about but doesnt like it and wants to get back to Thailand.
Can he at some point soon or end of the year go back and start the 90 days visa trips for a period of time?
Also he thinks he can start again with getting a new retirement visa with an agency BUT he doesn't meet criteria of lump sum in the bank (I know theres companies).
Also he doesn't meet criteria of minimum income of £1500 a month.
Also he has no health insurance and probably cant afford it.
Is he flogging a dead horse, so to speak? 😂
Can he navigate around everything to continue living in Thailand if he takes a 6 or 12 month break away?
Thanks if you've got this far, I just don't want him to eff it up and leave me sorting it all and housing him back here in UK
My dad (73) has been living in Thailand on various visas and using agents for about 6 years, so he's not new to it all.
He let his retirement visa go well over a year ago (maybe more) and has been on 90 day runs in and out, plus 6 months in the UK last year.
When he went back to Thailand at Christmas he had a warning (I think) about too many trips in and out. He's since left for a bit and travelling about but doesnt like it and wants to get back to Thailand.
Can he at some point soon or end of the year go back and start the 90 days visa trips for a period of time?
Also he thinks he can start again with getting a new retirement visa with an agency BUT he doesn't meet criteria of lump sum in the bank (I know theres companies).
Also he doesn't meet criteria of minimum income of £1500 a month.
Also he has no health insurance and probably cant afford it.
Is he flogging a dead horse, so to speak? 😂
Can he navigate around everything to continue living in Thailand if he takes a 6 or 12 month break away?
Thanks if you've got this far, I just don't want him to eff it up and leave me sorting it all and housing him back here in UK
TLDR : Answer Summary
The post discusses a daughter's concern for her 73-year-old father, who has struggled with maintaining a proper visa status in Thailand after letting his retirement visa lapse. He has been making 90-day runs in and out but received warnings from immigration. The daughter is seeking advice on whether he can return to Thailand and navigate the visa requirements, highlighting his inability to meet financial conditions for a new retirement visa and the absence of health insurance. Multiple comments provide insights on the complexities of Thailand's visa system, suggesting it may be difficult for him to get back to Thailand without proper funds and insurance.
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Collywobble **********
no fun getting old with only state pension and not enough savings...I know at 75 !!.....visa exempts was handy but no more...probably will get tourist visa 60 days and 30 days extension will have to suffice.... usually 6 months Thailand 6 months UK.... endure a couple of months UK winters!!! so be it
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Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTER***Update time***
First of all thank you to everyone who has replied, even the ones who have misunderstood my reasons and think I'm a horrid 🐮 😂
My dad has thought things through and has decided on coming back to the UK for around a year as his main health issue is knee replacement surgery is desperate. He's already on list for it. So we (me and siblings) are sorting him an apartment, making all the arrangements and doctors appointments, sorting furnishings and finances. We will take him to all necessary appointments, support him back to health after knee surgery. After all that he plans to go back to Thailand for good. May take a little more than a year, he might get lucky and take less time. We will fully support him with return to Thailand. I'm even looking into seeing if we can get his Thai partner over for a few months on a visit. We'll probably help with flight costs too.
So yes, what a self centred selfish daughter I am 😂😂
Also I'll be running my business, looking after my young children with additional needs, trying to find time for my husband and maybe even sticking a brush up my arse whilst Im at it 🤣
Thank you to everyone for helping me understand that he can definitely, for the right price, pick up his retirement visa again when he's back 🙏🏼♥️
PS, I'll likely be asking at some point how I can get his Thai partner over for a few months, so strap in hahaha. She's cared for my dad for a long time and I think it would be lovely if we could repay that by having her visit England
First of all thank you to everyone who has replied, even the ones who have misunderstood my reasons and think I'm a horrid 🐮 😂
My dad has thought things through and has decided on coming back to the UK for around a year as his main health issue is knee replacement surgery is desperate. He's already on list for it. So we (me and siblings) are sorting him an apartment, making all the arrangements and doctors appointments, sorting furnishings and finances. We will take him to all necessary appointments, support him back to health after knee surgery. After all that he plans to go back to Thailand for good. May take a little more than a year, he might get lucky and take less time. We will fully support him with return to Thailand. I'm even looking into seeing if we can get his Thai partner over for a few months on a visit. We'll probably help with flight costs too.
So yes, what a self centred selfish daughter I am 😂😂
Also I'll be running my business, looking after my young children with additional needs, trying to find time for my husband and maybe even sticking a brush up my arse whilst Im at it 🤣
Thank you to everyone for helping me understand that he can definitely, for the right price, pick up his retirement visa again when he's back 🙏🏼♥️
PS, I'll likely be asking at some point how I can get his Thai partner over for a few months, so strap in hahaha. She's cared for my dad for a long time and I think it would be lovely if we could repay that by having her visit England
Doug ********
Stressed_daughter_123getting her to UK could be very easy or a pain, every circumstance is different but go for the six month tourist visa. Approval is mainly based on being funded whilst here and the UK govt being happy that she will return and not overstay. The more reasons she has to go back to Thailand the better the chance, so own house,job,kids,parents etc are all a help.
Proof of accommodation here in the UK and enough money to stay is crucial.
Good luck and your dad is a lucky man to get so much help.
Proof of accommodation here in the UK and enough money to stay is crucial.
Good luck and your dad is a lucky man to get so much help.
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Deanna *******
I have friends that do 6 months in their home country and 6 months in Thailand. It works for them. But in reading your post, the biggest issue is staying in Thailand with no insurance. This is a terrible plan. If something happens, hospital bills could wipe out all of the family's money. I see it happen more than you would think.
If the money runs out, I've heard they will put the patient under "minimal care".
If the money runs out, I've heard they will put the patient under "minimal care".
John *******
Cant believe i just read that story an elderley man has apparently effd up with his efforts of living in thailand his daughters words not mine and now this daughter of his wants advice on how to help him stay away from her because she doesnt want take him in and take care of him or wanting him to be living with her really doesnt matter how many times one effs up he is still your father he probally worked his arse off to provide for you growing up so you could have some sort of decent life and now she wants to burn him because of his mistakes in life what a fkn piece of work this daughter is
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERJohn Roche 😂😂😂😂 Honestly please read it all again thoroughly. I'm doing all I can to help him get things right.
This is EXACTLY me taking care of him. If I wasn't arsed then I wouldn't have spent hours on here knowing I'll get a roasting for essentially asking if her can get around staying in Thailand illegally.
What i don't want is him rocking back up at the airport and getting denied entry. If he CAN get away with getting back in then I'm over the moon for him. What I don't want is him effing it up and landing back home because he'll be devastated and also obviously it will be difficult for me too.
Just to add, my decent life that I have has been completely self funded from myself being self sufficient in my own house from the of 17 without any financial support.
I knew I'd get replies like this at some point and still here sticking my neck out to help my dad enjoy his retirement 🙂
This is EXACTLY me taking care of him. If I wasn't arsed then I wouldn't have spent hours on here knowing I'll get a roasting for essentially asking if her can get around staying in Thailand illegally.
What i don't want is him rocking back up at the airport and getting denied entry. If he CAN get away with getting back in then I'm over the moon for him. What I don't want is him effing it up and landing back home because he'll be devastated and also obviously it will be difficult for me too.
Just to add, my decent life that I have has been completely self funded from myself being self sufficient in my own house from the of 17 without any financial support.
I knew I'd get replies like this at some point and still here sticking my neck out to help my dad enjoy his retirement 🙂
John *******
Stressed_daughter_123 ok thats not how i read it and by many other comments they read it similar to myself in short he probally has zero to no chance getting around the situation he is in at present with his entry record he will be flagged with red and will most likely end up on your doorstep anyway chokh di you are going to need it
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERJohn Roche this was my worry! Not that I can't be arsed dealing with him 😂 I fully expected that not everyone would read it as intended, as it's quite a ramble. Ive just written a seperate comment with an update on our plan of action ♥️
John *******
Understand his passion for thailand love the place been there 23 times and lived there for 2 years udon thani and bangkok ive changed my tact now have vietnam in my sights may you could research cambodia its in my sights aswell good luck
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Bob *****
so at the end of your post you say basically this is all about you. the father that raised you and and spent an awful lot of money sending you school clothing you feeding you and worrying about you now has a daughter that doesn't really care about him really just wants him to go away easily so she doesn't want to have to deal with it anymore. that's what this world has come to.
sounds like he cannot afford to live in Thailand. He's better off than Laos or Vietnam. that's advice to him not you.
sounds like he cannot afford to live in Thailand. He's better off than Laos or Vietnam. that's advice to him not you.
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERBob Fom please read the reply I wrote to John Roche above.
I've clothed myself from the age of 14, had no financial support from any parent since age 16 and had my own home and bills from the age of 17. I absolutely adore my dad and will do anything to help and support him. Thats why I'm on here asking you lot. I dont want to trip him up, I want him to be happy. Currently his knees are fked, he's messed up his finances and he needs whatever support works for long time 🙂
I've clothed myself from the age of 14, had no financial support from any parent since age 16 and had my own home and bills from the age of 17. I absolutely adore my dad and will do anything to help and support him. Thats why I'm on here asking you lot. I dont want to trip him up, I want him to be happy. Currently his knees are fked, he's messed up his finances and he needs whatever support works for long time 🙂
Bob *****
Stressed_daughter_123 then let him be him I guess? unless he's mentally unfit in which case he will probably prove that here quickly enough and be on his way back to the US.
so it's up to you to decide whether or not you owe him anything. if you do then do. if you really don't then walk away and let him do himself what he needs to do.
so it's up to you to decide whether or not you owe him anything. if you do then do. if you really don't then walk away and let him do himself what he needs to do.
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Donald **********
Unless he sorts out some sort of visa or fast track entry via an agent before he goes to Thailand, he’s in danger of being refused entry and being forced to return to the UK, if he tries to enter visa exempt. Will he have 20,000 baht or equivalent in cash to show Immigration and a also a return ticket?
If he won’t listen to reason, you need to draw a line in the sand for your own sanity. Give him a reality check and start calling him ‘Cheap Charlie’ when he mentions Thailand. Mention ‘No money. No honey!’ How much can he save over 6 months on a state pension? Does he have private pension income? You mentioned that he has health issues too? What are they? Thailand has no obligation to take care of chronically ill expatriates and they won’t.
I imagine from what you say that he’s going to be a nightmare to the end and will play the tug at your heartstring’s card constantly. In the UK he’d eventually end up in a care home whether voluntarily or through medical and legal process. Much cheaper to sort out the Power of Attorney option now than wait until it has to be decided through legal process!
If he won’t listen to reason, you need to draw a line in the sand for your own sanity. Give him a reality check and start calling him ‘Cheap Charlie’ when he mentions Thailand. Mention ‘No money. No honey!’ How much can he save over 6 months on a state pension? Does he have private pension income? You mentioned that he has health issues too? What are they? Thailand has no obligation to take care of chronically ill expatriates and they won’t.
I imagine from what you say that he’s going to be a nightmare to the end and will play the tug at your heartstring’s card constantly. In the UK he’d eventually end up in a care home whether voluntarily or through medical and legal process. Much cheaper to sort out the Power of Attorney option now than wait until it has to be decided through legal process!
David **************
So when he falls and breaks a hip who's gunna pay for it?
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERDavid Nunyabizness not you, so don't worry yourself about it 😂
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Rob *******
It is possible to get a 'retirement visa' without the 800k but will cost 20-30k each year... Some immigration offices will do this without an agent.
Donald **********
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and you assume this child pensioner will have the wherewithal to go through those hoops?Rob *******
Donald Campbell good point 🤔
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cp**
Just a suggestion but if he has low funds then wouldn't Cambodia or Vietnam be a better option.
Steve *********
If you need help on getting a non o visa , and need to show savings in Uk. Message me I can assist with this
Eoin *******
He needs to become a a YouTube volloger, aka professional e-begging wanker, just like Trevor types in Pattaya
David *******
He needs to get back onto a ‘Retirement Extension’. Given his financial situation, that means paying an agent each year. Lots of people do exactly the same.
Cost will depend on if he has a Thai bank account and which bank it is with. Bangkok Bank is no longer an option for agents.
Assuming he is allowed in at the airport on Visa Exempt he can then go to an agent and they will sort things out.
If he doesn’t have a suitable bank account then the initial cost will be
Subsequent years will be much cheaper. Maybe
Many, many people living here do this.
Cost will depend on if he has a Thai bank account and which bank it is with. Bangkok Bank is no longer an option for agents.
Assuming he is allowed in at the airport on Visa Exempt he can then go to an agent and they will sort things out.
If he doesn’t have a suitable bank account then the initial cost will be
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baht each time.Many, many people living here do this.
Ken *******
I don't blame him for keeping trying to stay, I would be doing the same.. but better if he went down the agent path to get an 'o' visa then an extension for retirement. There are some good agents that will help I'm sure..good luck to him. As for health protection pay as you go at a government hospital I have found is a very good option.
Frank **********
From your own words of your dad "effing things up", Southeast Asia is one of the worst places to be if you are not a responsible adult. Perhaps he should go back home and if he can afford it just visit Thailand twice a year or so on the appropriate visa.
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERFrank Shevchuk he doesn't take it seriously, all I get is a shrug of the shoulders and the says T.I.T this is Thailand 🤷
Honestly I've got a child for a father 🙈😂❤️
Honestly I've got a child for a father 🙈😂❤️
Frank **********
Stressed_daughter_123 I am sorry for you having to sort this all out. All I can say is good luck.
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERFrank Shevchuk thank you 🙂 I'm happy if he's happy but also if he's safe. He's a pain in the arse
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Tony *********
He could try cambodia. 300 usd for 1 year retirement visa, no money in bank or income requirement.
Stephen ********
If he has savings in the UK, he can apply for the OA visa which will effectively give him almost two years with one border bounce
Richard ********
Stephen Howell but then he would need health insurance and at that age it wouldn't be cheap
Donald **********
Richard Hutton and a criminal record check.
Stephen ********
Richard Hutton He has to weigh up the cost benefits. He can go to Thailand and pay an agent 40k baht or get an insurance or an insurance exemption
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Todd *********
Come back as a tourist on TV or visa exemption , then sort out vith Thai visa center for long term visa
Jeff *************
As long as he doesn’t keep doing free Visas he should be ok
Paul *******
Contact Grace from the Thai visa centre.
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Michael **********
DTV soft powers is the answer but he needs half a million baht in the bank. The application costs 10k and can be done in England. 5yrs visa
Peter *******
Michael Bramieri he can’t afford health insurance so I doubt he’s got half a million in a bank
Michael **********
Peter Riley if u got no money for health insurance then it'd be better to stay at home
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Christer *****
Maybe try Vietnam
Scott *******
You should support him, he can live with you for a while and save up money so he can apply properly in the next year. Team effort
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERScott Kufus we did last year for 6 months 😂 Kept, fed and watered. Now a few months later we are back to the same scenario because he's got back to Thailand and found the visa price has changed apparently.
I'm all for team effort but I'm not looking after him for 6 months out of every year so he can fund sangsom and shagging all winter 😂😂
I'm all for team effort but I'm not looking after him for 6 months out of every year so he can fund sangsom and shagging all winter 😂😂
Steve *********
Lol I wish my daughter was as understanding as you: he’ll have to start all over again with agents/visa but need to rustle up 40-50k baht
No need for money in bank they take care of everything
No need for money in bank they take care of everything
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERSteve Bilbong he's absolutely blessed with me as a daughter 😂 I've been over to Pattaya myself solo to spend a week with him so I'm under no illusions hahaha.
He's done his bit, we are all grown up now, so happy for him to enjoy himself 😄
So if he's good for the 40 - 50k baht fee then he can get a visa sorted and it won't matter that he doesnt have the £1500 a month income, or health insurance?
Thank you for replying ☺️
He's done his bit, we are all grown up now, so happy for him to enjoy himself 😄
So if he's good for the 40 - 50k baht fee then he can get a visa sorted and it won't matter that he doesnt have the £1500 a month income, or health insurance?
Thank you for replying ☺️
Rae ******
You will be even more stressed setting up the GoFundMe page for the old reprobate. The child becomes the parent. This is the best he will ever be and he is totally hopeless now. Step away and let him end up getting deported. It will happen anyway
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERRae Wang I need someone to go fund bloody me, never mind him 😂
We've ended on the agreement of if he wants to come back then he can present as homeless and elderly and knackered. Get housed, sort himself out and if he can save to go back again then thats his choice. (We will of course sort him out when he gets home, but also if he wants to come back again for 6 months then he needs accommodation and to take some responsibility).
Yes I am now the child parent 😂
We've ended on the agreement of if he wants to come back then he can present as homeless and elderly and knackered. Get housed, sort himself out and if he can save to go back again then thats his choice. (We will of course sort him out when he gets home, but also if he wants to come back again for 6 months then he needs accommodation and to take some responsibility).
Yes I am now the child parent 😂
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Emma ******
Could he go down the DTV route soft power maybe?
Nick ************
Sounds like he never bothered to put together any sort of long term plan. Well now it has caught up with him and there are not many options.
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERNick Cartwright you are 100% correct. He has spent 73 years winging it and failing to plan anything. He's not going to change either unfortunately. Hence me on here sorting 💩 out. Ideally I'd like to be able to confirm He's no chance of staying 😆
Robert *****
Stressed_daughter_123 have him move to Vietnam.
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ORIGINAL POSTERRobert Eeg he's there at the minute and hates it 😬
Bazaar******
Has he tried Cambodia?
Tell him to go to Phnom Penh Cambodia for a couple of weeks and try that out..
Not a great deal different to Thailand and they have some better long term visa options..
He may even be able to get a 12 months business visa or even retirement visa much cheaper than Thailand...
But he needs to go and look at his options..
Cambodia slightly better value than Thailand as well if he is getting tight on money..
Tell him to go to Phnom Penh Cambodia for a couple of weeks and try that out..
Not a great deal different to Thailand and they have some better long term visa options..
He may even be able to get a 12 months business visa or even retirement visa much cheaper than Thailand...
But he needs to go and look at his options..
Cambodia slightly better value than Thailand as well if he is getting tight on money..
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Fred ******
This is exactly what Thailand Immigration does not want anymore. Basically go home for 8 months and then visit for 4ish months as a tourist.
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERFred Aker he has no home, he buggered off to Thailand over 6 years ago on his state pension and has been winging it ever since 😬
Rae ******
Fred Aker he has no money. How is he going to do that?
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Keith ************
New news, rent or own an appartment or house, no visa.
Wallace ******
Keith Stephenson post a link. That is not true.
Chris *******
False news.
Visa always required.
There is no new visa.
Visa always required.
There is no new visa.
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ConfidentR***********
Needs 800k in Thai bank account or find an accent that can help
Night *******
If he is short of money, he should stay in his home country, as he is more than 70 years old. This period is when a man is likely to experience many health issues. In Thailand, most individuals of this age are married.
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ORIGINAL POSTERNight Rider I completely agree with you, unfortunately my dad thinks he's invincible and will last forever. What I'd really like to hear is everyone saying it can't be done so he can admit defeat and come home and watch bargain hunt 😂
Stan ******
Stressed_daughter_123 it shouldn’t be done.
Kate *******
Stressed_daughter_123 Honeatly, maybe he’s rather live his later years in a place that makes him happy even if it means it comes to an end sooner. I know my dad would rather go out with a bang than get old in an armchair with a newspaper, can’t think of anything worse for him.
If he can in some way pull it off (he will need an agent to fiddle the visa requirements for a retirement visa again but they exist and they will do it) then let him go.
We can’t judge how anyone should live their last years.
If he can in some way pull it off (he will need an agent to fiddle the visa requirements for a retirement visa again but they exist and they will do it) then let him go.
We can’t judge how anyone should live their last years.
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very true I thinkStressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Kate ******
thanks for your reply. I'm honestly not judging him. I've been over solo to spend time with him there and I totally get it.The point of my post is to see if he can wangle getting his retirement visa again as he's ballsed it up and coming home again to re plan.
He thinks he can get back in and everything I've seen says differently. So thought I'd b3st ask those with a real world working knowledge 🙂
Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERI do think he would be better at home, but also want him to be safe and secure and happy
Harry ********
Stressed_daughter_123 would he be lonely at home? I think he has made his decision like many before him Thailand still offers a life and friends I’m not saying that family don’t matter just suggesting people have different perspectives as they age and are aware that they won’t last for ever anywhere IMHO
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ORIGINAL POSTERHarry Hihope I'm happy for him to be in Thailand, just so long as his safe, healthy and financially stable. Much as I joke about him being at home watching bargain hunt, I'd rather him he having a ball in a tropical country and living his retirement to the full
Kate *******
Stressed_daughter_123 He can’t do the visa runs thing any more, if he wants to be there for any long term period he will need a long term visa. It probably can be done though. So long as he already knows somewhere he can stay cheaply enough to make it work.
A lot of less wealthy elderly people do it without health insurance u fortunately. It might not be wise but again, they’d rather be there and accept it might come to an end at some point than be here and miserable for a few years longer so I can get it. It’s far from ideal but I get it.
A lot of less wealthy elderly people do it without health insurance u fortunately. It might not be wise but again, they’d rather be there and accept it might come to an end at some point than be here and miserable for a few years longer so I can get it. It’s far from ideal but I get it.
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good luck to him. The point is that he is dragging his daughter down with him. She has her own life and own commitments. Sometimes you have to walk away for your own sanity. Or when does it stop? 75, 85, 95, still bring a chancer and an idiot. Let him go under the radar until he gets caught. Unless he brings you more joy then grief.... Cut him loose.Stressed_d***********
ORIGINAL POSTERRae Wang he's got by on being a chancer all his life, unfortunately he can't see that he's knocking on a bit and in poor health mobility wise. Love him to bits and want him to be happy and enjoy his life, but he's not in the real world 😆
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Kate ******
it's the visa runs that hes messed up with I've now realised. Seems things have changed and he's not up to date with exactly what's best, hence me delving into everything. He's happy to live a budget lifestyle, he's been in Thailand for 6 years, 8 in total if I include the 3 month stints before he went for good. I'd rather have him at home now but that's mainly because his health is bad and he's just been over for 6 months to live with us and save money to go back. He returned to Thailand in Nov, now he's in Vietnam and asking to come home and live rent free for another 6 months to re fund his dream.
Fine as a one off but we cant support his lifestyle for him
Kate *******
Stressed_daughter_123 oh yeah I can totally understand that and would put a hard boundary on the whole living with you to ‘save’ for his travels thing. That would be a resounding nope from me. He needs to pull this off on his own merit if he wants to make it happen. A bit of help to figure his visa out if fine but the rest should be up to him.
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Kate ******
this is it. We can't have a 73 year old teenager saving up his pocket money for 6 months of the the year whilst we fund and provide for him xReply to
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Stressed_daughter_123 im76 and the price of health insurance is ridiculous so my days in Thailand are now over 😭I’m back in the uk now😭
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ORIGINAL POSTERPeter Riley he's been there for 6 years full time, 8 years in total and he's never had health insurance. Honestly don't know how he's got away with it legally. Also from a safety point 😅
Sean **********
Retirement Visa there is no requirement for insurance. I am considerably younger and just started my retirement in Thailand a few years ago. . My wife is Thai but she uses the Government insurance. I have been uninsured for 3 years now. I plan on getting insurance shortly but have been fairly healthy Thank God. I heard many stories about having insurance and the Insurance companies not paying. This makes me leary about getting it. I have a friend from my hometown who lives here and asked him about it. He is self insured . He has been here way longer than I have. I hope all goes well for you.
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Jason **********
With all due respects - Sounds like he is a liability waiting to happen…If he can’t afford the essentials, then getting old in Thailand really isn’t the place. It’ll end in disaster like it has for so many others. Sort out the basics and then consider staying in Thailand.
Peter *******
Jason Wheatley if he can’t afford health insurance it’s a disaster waiting to happen 🫣🫣
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ORIGINAL POSTERPeter Riley honestly I say he can't afford health insurance. The truth is he's never had health insurance the entire time he's been there. Also I've no idea how much it even is
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Stressed_daughter_123 I was quoted £1900 for a 3 month visit 🤬🤬 high bp, high cholesterol and aged 76
Phil ******
For a Non O visa based on retirement he needs ฿800,000 for the first year. He a look needs to show ฿65,000 per month deposits for the first year so he can apply fot the 2nd year extension. You say he doesn't have the money to do this. Then its an agent may help. Try
My question is
What income per month does he have?
@Mots *********
or Tik tok services, both in Pattaya. My question is
What income per month does he have?
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ORIGINAL POSTERPhil Beer hi, thanks for replying. He's about £1100 a month 🙈 He's managed fine for ages on it but messed things up and ended up on border runs
Abu ********
The best option for him to get back to UK if you and him want to avoid anxiety. Best wishes.
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Ok the 1100gbp = ฿47,640.78 currently. A visa based on married requires ฿40,000 per month in the first 12 months for a 2nd years extension.
That's an opportunity.
Or tries the ฿800,000 agent pathway. So he needs to make contact.
That's an opportunity.
Or tries the ฿800,000 agent pathway. So he needs to make contact.
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ORIGINAL POSTERPhil Beer thank youuu!
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John **********
It's very unlikely he can get away with just leaving and returning every 90 days on visa exempt entries, especially considering he's already had a warning. Even if he could show the £1500 per month to apply for a 90 day Non-O visa outside Thailand and then return he would need to show 800k baht in a Thai bank to get a 12 month extension. If he can get himself back into Thailand on a visa exempt stamp or even a tourist visa then he could try talking to an agent about sorting out a 90 day Non-O visa and a 12 month extension of stay but he will need finances for that too. At the end of the day he's going to have to have finances to live in Thailand
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ORIGINAL POSTER@John *********
thank you 🙂 He'd previously renewed his old retirement visa several times with help from an agent for the 800k in the bank bit.
What I really need to find out is, can an agent help with covering the requirement of £1500 a month income?
Also can an agent help with covering the health insurance requirement?
I absolutely appreciate this is a ridiculous question, he's hanging on to something he can no longer afford AND he's an idiot for not having health insurance.
Just he's coming home for a bit and is absolutely convinced he can go back to Thailand at the end of the year and wriggle around all of the above with the help of an agent
cp**
Here's an option ...in his situation why not go to Cambodia or Vietnam... no large amounts of funds needed to satisfy immigration.
Brandon ************
Stressed_daughter_123 I don't think you understand what agents do. It doesn't matter how much his income is. The agents will not be using that. The agents will put 800,000 baht into his bank account, get a letter from the bank, then get the money back. Then they pay the immigration office to ignore the fact that the 800k wasn't in the account for the required amount of time. This is what the payment to the agent covers. But the price has gone up significantly since last year. For getting a new non-O visa and 12-month extension, he's looking at 40,000+ baht. The annual extensions after that will be a little cheaper, but it's still going to cost him.
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Brandon ***********
sorry i was being too vague 🙈 Yes i know the agents cover the 800k baht issue.What i need to know is, will they magically be able to also skirt over the fact that he doesn't meet the £1500 a month income and the health insurance?
He's an absolute pecker for not having insurance and I hate to be on here being 'one of those people' asking how to take the piss.
Just i need to know if he's able to sort it for a fee, or if he's not actually aware of new updates etc.
Thanks and sorry for the stupid, annoying posts 🙈😂
Brandon ************
Stressed_daughter_123 there is NO INCOME REQUIREMENT. THERE IS NO HEALTH INSURANCE REQUIREMENT.
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Brandon ***********
everything I've seen, read, researched says the exact opposite. Thank you for clarificationBrandon ************
Stressed_daughter_123 It's proof of funds in a bank account, OR proof of income.
Only ONE single type of visa requires insurance, and that's the non-OA visa. Agents do not deal with non-OA visas as they are ONLY available from the Thai embassy in your home country.
Only ONE single type of visa requires insurance, and that's the non-OA visa. Agents do not deal with non-OA visas as they are ONLY available from the Thai embassy in your home country.
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thank you so much for this. I've been searching endlessly for trying to get this info. Legend 🙏🏼❤️Reply to
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Marian ***********
Why ask FB ? Go to the Embassy of the Country you need answers from ! 🧐
Ian ********
Marian Adamovich helpful as ever then.
In this persons,situation its very appropriate to ask here
In this persons,situation its very appropriate to ask here
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Ian Sutton well if that is the situation I truly wish him the best !
Ian ********
Marian Adamovich you obviously didn't read the full post another scanner read 3 lines and post
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Alan **********
Marian Adamovich Why write on Facebook at all ?
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ORIGINAL POSTERMarian Adamovich because the Embassy won't give me the answers, as I'm sure you very well know 🙄 I'm not asking for approval of his situation either 😉
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ORIGINAL POSTERAlso can you imagine the conversation. "Hi there Embassy people. My dad is trying to stay in your country in a non above board manner. Can you please advise how best to get around your countries laws and regulations?"
I know it's a joke, I don't approve either, but he's my dad so 🤷
I know it's a joke, I don't approve either, but he's my dad so 🤷
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Marian Adamovich they are looking for solutions to a bit of a complicated visa issue. The embassy won't have time to chat or come up with ideas.
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he obviously doesn't have the finances to apply via an embassyAiden ***************
Marian Adamovich like the thai embassy responds in any country tried 3 different ones here in aus only words I got was check online
Marian ***********
Aiden Ooden Baxter Yes online on their site not FB ! Official Thailand website!!!
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